if everyone's arguing this anyway, didn't dead dream jade interact with the pre-scratch trolls? 'cause that was one of the reasons she was so sad to be jadesprite
That’s probably what happened, but she never says for shore.
It's sort of confusing because 'Alpha' would imply 'first' Making Meenah and John's respective group the 'alpha' groups, IE pre-scratch, but with the Alpha and Beta versions of sburb, stuff gets a bit...messed up.
And that’s why it’s better to just use pre and post-scratch (◡‿◡✿)
What is the order of how Lil Cal was passed over? I know he was made as Doc Scratch's ecto son but how did he get passed to the other characters in Homestuck?
Here’s how it works.
Gamzee made Lil’Cal in Dave’s Dream Room using chucklevoodoo
Lil’ Cal is sent to the ectobiology lab via Bro’s board.
Baby Bro/Dirk is sent with Lil’ Cal
ALPHA
Lil’ Cal lives with Dirk
Lil’ Cal is dropped in the ocean
Caliborn finds Lil’ Cal in the future
BETA
Lil’ Cal grows with Bro
Lil’ Cal is cut up by Dave
Lil’ Cal is stitched up by Bro
Lil’ Cal fights against Bec Noir with Bro
Lil’ Cal is taken by Bec Noir
Bec Noir eventually enters the troll session
Lil’ Cal is thrown into a time portal transporting him into the past
Lil’ Cal is found by an alive Aradia
She gives him to Sollux
Sollux gives him to Kanaya
Kanaya makes Lil’ Cal a felt suit
Sn8wman through ectobiology uses Lil’ Cal and a Cue Ball to create Doc Scratch
Kanaya eventually gives Cal to Gamzee
Gamzee creates Lil’ Cal
Gamzee sends Cal to B2 Jack, turning him into Jack English
I just gotta say that I really like this blog because it keeps my memory fresh on the comic and its aspects! This blog is super helpful! Thank you <3 Keep it up uvu/
Continued: Also, your theories are great in my opinion :D
A common terminology for the player groups is A1 for Meenah's trolls, A2 for Karkat's trolls, B1 for John's humans, and B2 for Roxy's humans. IIRC this was coined by Aranea in her dreamchat with Terezi, although B1/B2 was foreshadowed much earlier.
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that earlier. Thank ya kindly.
For the anon asking about hearts: the troll term for a normal heart is "blood pusher", however, only landdwellers seem to have one. Seadwellers have, according to Kanaya, a "Collapsing And Expanding Bladder Based Aquatic Vascular System".
"Eridan's hair streak is natural" Where's the proof for this? I don't see how the flash/game/thing proves that his hair is naturally purple.
That picture is from when the grubs were first created. As in, moments after their ectobiological creation. And Eridangrub has a purple streak therefore he was created with it and it is natural.
(about eridans hair streak being natural) there's a headcanon (?) floating around that cronus has the streak as well, but dyes it black to seem more "human" (on his talksprite you can see the gray part of his hair where the streak would be)
I dont see why anyone would be bothered by Eridan having a natural purple streak. I mean he is a troll after all and natural oddly colored hair isn't rare in fiction.
it's entirely possible that aradia's eyelashes are natural, just like eridan's hair streak. maybe it's some sort of mutation, where certain patches of a troll's hair don't have black pigment and are instead filled in with whatever pigments are in their blood?
Eyelashes and hair, maybe. But trolls have naturally black lips so Doc Scratch def put lipstick on that grub.
yeah doc scratch put lipstick on that megido, just like karkat put green lipstick on kanaya in that picture of him with them, or wait maybe this theory actually sucks?
Maybe the eye lashes, the lips, the hair and such are all just for simplicity and recognizability. Just a thought. We should be careful how seriously we consider anything. It is Homestuck after all.
I don't know if someone already said this, but I was rewatching some flashes, and in [s] Wake, it shows that the Troll's god tier beds are circular. I figured that's be helpful for anyone making a fan session. UuU""
That’s because they aren’t questbeds, they’re questcocoons because trolls sleep in cocoons not beds.
I always had the headcanon that it's sort of like grey hair. Eridan's natural purple streak is the equivalent of a human having a streak of prematurely grey hair. Like maybe trolls reaching the end of their lifespan have hair that, instead of turning grey, turns a duller version of their blood color or something.
about the lips thing, i think it's kind of just like people lips. some people have pale lips (for trolls their pale = black) and some people- more often girls- have more flushed lips. pink because of blood. So trolls could have flushed lips in the color of their blood, couldn't they? And of course, they can wear makeup on top of that. Like human girls do
Something I've been wondering - would a class combination like 'Seer of Void' be possible, and if so what would they even do? I mean I know the Seer is basically that, and Void is canonically 'nothing', so does the Seer of Void 'see Nothing' or...?
The thing about titles is they can be interpreted many different ways.
My interpretation of Seer of Void would be one who could see through or into the Nothingness.
Since Seer is a passive class someone could interpret it as one who sees what others are lacking (the void in the person so to speak). Such as patience or knowledge.
well yeah, guys can wear makeup, too. didn't mean to sound like that (//is boy who wears makeup) I just haven't noticed any of the male trolls, besides gamzee, applying anything?
I honestly think fans delve into this way more than Hussie does. There probably isn't a canon, Hussie just sometimes drew them with coloured lips and sometimes not! We may never know and judging from just who Hussie is, it probably won't be explained.
Well he did forget to draw horns on the Handmaid that one time, so you’re probably right
i would not be surprised if hussie was deliberately inconsistent in the troll lips thing just to fuck with us. but most likely he just made a mistake. he is incredibly meticulous with details most of the time, (sasachres text being described as being able to crush a cat in the first act, that coming true after roxys introduction, for example) but in terms of making a joke or being plot important accidentally being inconsistent with troll lips is a mistake that hussie wouldnt be too worried about
there was once a headcanon, i think it was from way back on this blog in fact, where proudly showing your blood color means you are not afraid and believe you are strong. for example, Vriska wears blue because she's cocky and proud, Kanaya i more modest, but she applies green lipstick after she kills Eridan. so the headcanon is this: low bloods naturally show off their blood color as a defense mechanism, to falsely boast themselves. more reasonable than doc scratch putting make-up on a baby
i roughly feel like youre doubting my love of equius ive loved him since his first panel man
Are relatively new to the fandom?
~:this is all from my perspective, it might have been different, but this is what it was for me:~
Because a year ago next to no one liked Equius and I was teased because he was my favourite troll. There was very little fan art of him. The only time he seemed to only show up in the fandom was in Octopimp’s video. But everything changed after the “with Equius” week tumblr had (last july I think). And now everyone loves him. And I’m really happy the he and Nep are loved so much now.