I was wondering. Did Karkat make the pre-scratch trolls like how John used ectobiology to make the alpha and beta kids? (Kankri, Rufioh, etc.) My friends told me he did and but I'm a bit skeptical.
Yes he did, but Karkat’s ectobiology was a lot more complicated than John’s
Is it possible that when john enters the medium and is being commanded by the blue text to do stuff that the blue text could be caliborn? just the all caps and choppy sentences and sentence fragments make me think of caliborn
so now, with john changing the timeline, whats his position now? i mean wheres he, whats he doing? also at the last panel he and roxy transported to somewhere but where? whats going to happen to them? im just confused lol
He’s teleporting them into the Alpha session which is currently lacking his planet, Roxy and himself
So Dave had a lot of nightmares about Cal, right? Who exactly caused them? Cal himself, or maybe some troll with a voodoo? Is that mentioned somewhere in Homestuck?
Gamzee caused Cal with his chucklevoodoo. Cal actually caused the nightmares but it was because of Gamzee.
Do we know who made sburb? It's been around for some unknowable and paradoxical amount of time because its use creates universes but I was just wondering if there was a creation of it or anything
It was made by different people in each session but all of them are based on a technology found in the frog temple which is paradoxically created by the game and sent to the planet so that the game can be made. So I guess technically the game makes itself?
A quick reminder that the pre-scratch trolls are indeed the alpha trolls and that the post-scratch trolls are indeed the beta trolls. People are often confused and believe it is the other way around, like how it is for the kids.
hi, this is probably a dumb question but wasn't meenah's ghost 19 and vriska's ghost 13? the whole thing kind of creeped me out :-(
Vriska’s ghost had been in the dreambubbles for a long time so while her ghost may look 13 since that’s when she died she’s actually a lot older because time works differently in the dreambubbles. Meenah’s ghost on the other hand only recently arrived in the dreambubbles so she’s still relatively the same age.
Dirk mentioned something about the Condy's plan with the lussi and how she was hiding them somewhere on earth, and since we see them on Jake's island would that mean she hid them there thinking that it was unhabited ever since she killed Jade there?
Wasn't it stated that the Alternian sun is too hot for normal trolls to be in direct contact with? So the trolls are nocturnal except for Kanaya's caste?
Wouldn't the cherubs' session be technically post scratch because it's sort of post apocalyptic? Perhaps a pre scratch counterpart will be introduced later... Which leads to the question; could a one-player session like Caliborn's lead to a Scratch?
The Cherub session is not a post-scratch session. It couldn’t be scratched because you need Echidna’s needles to scratch the Beat Mesa and there is no Echidna in Caliborn’s session.
Is the reason that Alpha sessions and Beta sessions are named those because of WHICH session did the ectobiology? Karkat, the post scratch, did ectobiology. His session was Beta. John, the pre scratch, did ectobiology. His session was Beta. Am I right on this, or has this been brought up before in canon?
Actually the Alpha and Beta sessions are named such after the version of the game played. John played the Sburb Beta thus Beta kids. Jane played the Sburb Alpha, thus Alpha kids. To the best of my knowledge Karkat’s group just played Sgrub, no alpha or beta about it.
Wait why did karkat have to do ectobiology? I thought the whole point of the scratch was that the order of the meteors that were sent back in time with the babies were switched.
If the Pre-scratch trolls didn’t initiate the scratch the meteors wouldn’t have even been sent out at all and they wouldn’t exist. So in order to close the paradox of their creation they had to scratch.
A quick reminder that the pre-scratch trolls are indeed the alpha trolls and that the post-scratch trolls are indeed the beta trolls. People are often confused and believe it is the other way around, like how it is for the kids.
To all of you saying that Meenah’s group are the Beta trolls
Would it be correct to say that successful sessions are Beta and unsuccessful sessions are Alpha? It seems the chronology of everything goes Alpha - Beta - Alpha - Beta, with the second beta creating the first Alpha in a loop.
I’ve had this one submitted a few times and I don’t want to take it as a fact. If you headcannon it it’s fine, good for you. But just because Karkat calls her that once it doesn’t mean it’s true.
Not a HS fact, but I think it's worth noting that the 'injuries' of Harlequinsprite/Nanasprite mirror Vriska's, namely damage to the left eye & a fake left arm. Vriska is also the patron troll of John, the guy who 'injured' Harlequinsprite.
It’s still possible for it to be POST scratch though. Since there is a Space player (Calliope), then Echidna would have been there if the session went normally. However, I don’t think (and REALLY HOPE) that Hussie would go there.
Actually it couldn’t be a post-scratch session as the scratch only changes where the meteors with the players go. The Callie’s on the other hand were not created through ectobiology but biologically.
Has it ever been said or hinted at that the non-player scratch selves (Signless, Dave's Bro, Roxy's Mom, ect) are in the dream bubbles or have different bubbles, especially since some like the Condesce and Nanna have extremely important roles in the alternate sessions anyway?
It hasn’t been seen or mentioned at all in canon so a guardianbubble probably doesn’t exist.
How did Vriska's god tier hapened?I mean, all the 8loody thing and torturing Tavros to kill her........
Aradia beat the shit out of Vriska to the point where she was dying so Vriska made Tavros take her to her Questcocoon where she eventually died and ascended.
What were the totems used in the alpha kids sessions to bring them into the medium? I was talking about it with my friend and we know the ones for the beta session (John is apple, Rose is bottle, Dave is egg, and Jade is tree) but we can't remember any of them for the alpha kids. I also think that there's some sort of meaning in them (like why each person got that specific thing as their totem) but I'm not sure what.
Is Vriska X Meenah likely to come back, meeting through sleeping and appearing in the bubbles still, or has my ship eternally sunk?
The way I see it it still exists. Because if John changing Vriska’s death meant that Vriska never was a ghost she never would have formed her pirate crew and John never would have got his powers. So GhostVriska has to exist because if she doesn’t John wouldn’t have gotten the ability to change the past. Plus GhostVriska recently underwent a huge design change, most likely so that we could distinguish GhostVriska from Vriska (Vriska).
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You off-handedly mentioned a GhostVriska redesign. I was curious what you meant, and if you knew about what page we notice said redesign. (are you talking about Ghost-Eyes Vriska?)
Would it be correct to say, since in the retconned timeline Vriska never died, that FollowedTerezi'sAdviceAndDied!John never dated Vriska? And that from Vriska's perspective, she and John are almost dating?
Considering John just punched Vriska in the face, probably not.
