April 2015

So how many timelines are there at this point?

So many,  there are so many timelines, I don’t even know where to start.

Do all the alpha-kids live in different times on earth, even Roxy and Dirk? Is it the same for the beta-kids? And if, in which order do they live?

Beta kids all live at the same time landing in 1995-96 making them 13 when Homestuck started, Jane and Jake would have landed in the same timeframe post scratch, Dirk and Roxy being from 413 years in the future of course landed in 2409.

What I don't get is that caliborn claims the 8 kids show up to the final showdown through John's retcon powers, but if that is the case then it shouldn't already be part of the existing timeline since it doesn't adhere to stable time loops. do you know what's going on there? Or know where it's hinted about?

But it does adhere to stable time loops, as a result of the fight Caliborn’s juju is sent to the furthest ring so that John could find it and get his retcon powers to take the kids to the fight or the existence of Lil Cal.  Both the pre-retcon and post-retcon timelines are needed in the Alpha timeline.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTU- Fuck, you know a lot about it anyway. Is Calliope actually Caliborn'ssister? There is a rumor that she isn't.

She is not, cherubs don’t have real siblings stated by both Calliope and Caliborn. Calliope called Caliborn her brother to relate to the kids and Caliborn started referring to Calliope as his sister since everyone knew who he was referring to and because he didn’t like her name to begin with.  Also since hearing their other half’s name put them to sleep it was just an easy way to avoid saying one another’s names. 

I am sorry to announce that the ask box is closed until further notice.

I have been getting asks at a much higher rate than I can answer them and fact submission are being buried. Once I feel I’ve made a good indent in the inbox I’ll turn asks back on, I figure it’ll take about a week, two weeks at the most.
Please bear with me until then.

Sincerely yours, Mod T

I Think Hussie Tweeted Something About Gay Singularity Recently Do You Know What That Is? And If He Was Referring To DaveKat?

After the Legend of Korra had a very gay ending Hussie tweeted “homestuck will eventually reach a gay singularity.  mark it down. it will make korra look like republican propaganda”  

His tweet after Wednesday’s upd8 was in reference to that and how he was serious about it. So yeah, it was partially about davekat.

If living dream selves are require to ascend to god tier, how was jake able do it without his?

Dreamselves are required when using a questbed.  Jake used a Sacrificial Slab to ascend which only requires one life.

Hi, I saw Eridan in the pic where Fef was healing the Mayor. Does this mean that he didn't flip out or have I gotten my timelines mixed up? Also, could the MATRIORB have survived this time? Thanks

The Eridan seen in the upd8 was dead and from a doomed timeline where he ascended. Unfortunately the matriorb would not have survived in the new timeline either.

Okay so if the First Guardian of Earth changed post-scratch, then that means there was a different FG for Beforus, not Doc Scratch, right? Has that ever come up ever? Like has that guardian even been referred to in the slightest?

Doc Scratch was not around pre-scratch and nothing about the A1 first guardian has been mentioned.

On what pages do Alpha-timeline John and Roxy get killed by LOWAS and Heiress Jane?

John dies here and Roxy dies here

But fear not, their pre-retcon selves will be taking their places very soon.

Whatever happened to that Hammer Dave got (kinda sorta stole) John From Hephaestus "Fear No Anvil" I think it was called, the one with the time freeze powers. Just curious about why that;s not a thing anymore

John has it but his Pop-a-matic Vrillyhoo Hammer is just better.

What makes a character from Derse or from Prospit?

Well for the kids it seems like it’s their hair color as each Derse dreamer has been depicted with white hair and each Prospit dreamer with black. And for the trolls it’s what team they were on as everyone on the Red team is a prospit dreamer and everyone of the Blue team is a derse dreamer, except Sollux who was both.

What is everyone's strife specibus (and if you can current weapon please)

Oh god, okay, I’m only putting their main ones

John: Hammerkind- Pop-a-matic Vrillyhoo Hamme

Rose: Needlekind- Quills of Echidna

Dave: Bladekind- Caledfwlch

Jade: Riflekind- but she doesn’t really need guns anymore

Karkat- Sickleking- Homes Smell Ya Later

Kanaya- Makeupkind- Lipstick

Terezi- Canekind- Dragon Cane

Vriska- Dicekind- Fluorite Octet

Gamzee- Jokerkind- Changes

Aradia- Whipkind- Doesn’t use it

Sollux- Shurikenkind- Doesn’t use it

Equius- Fistkind- his fist

Nepeta- Clawkind- Action Claws

Eridan- Riflekind- Ahab’s Crosshairs

Feferi- 2x3dentkind- Ψdon’s Entente

Tavros- Lancekind- Cigarette Holder Lance

Dirk- Bladekind- Unbreakable Katana

Jake- 2xPistolkind- Golden pistols

Jane- Fork/spoonkind- Big red fork currently unnamed

Roxy- Riflekind- Crockercorp Appearifier Rifle

I thought that, even after Jon retcon'd everything, Nepeta was still dead, but I'm seeing people talk about her as if she's still alive. Am I wrong? Thanks!

Nope, she’s still dead. That part of the timeline didn’t change.

There was a hint at Jade becoming Dogtier in the beginning of Act 3.
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Now the upd8 is very confusing so here’s how I’m interpreting it.

The Meteor Crew has just rescued Jake from Derse and now they are hiding from the Condesce. They’re on the platform that is where the Genesis Tadpole is released at and allowed to grow, that probably isn’t relevant though. I do not know why the planets are gone.

Hopefully we’ll get some clarification in the next upd8.

Hi so uhhh in at [s] [A6A6I4] and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to interrogate roxy ??? It just says sup and i dont know if I'm just supposed to move on or what..

You just move on.

Was Beforus a lot more brutal and violent than Alternia? I kind of remember picking that up somewhere, but I'm not really sure. I kind of remember Beforus trolls were treated a lot worse, and even culled, than those in Alternia? Thank!

Actually Alternia was more brutal and violent than Beforus.  Beforan society was a relatively peaceful one where the highblood trolls kind of looked after and cared for the lowblood trolls.

Today’s upd8 confirms that in the retconned timeline Erisolsprite and Fefetasprite never existed.  

This is a sad day in Homestuck.

Jade has had 10 shirt designs.
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So, Is the Pupa Pan story the same on Alternia as on Earth...if so How is the Summoner related to it?

It’s similar but not entirely the same.  Pupa Pan was based off the actions of the Summoner whose revolt got adult trolls banished from Alternia creating a planet were only children live kinda like Neverland

Why were the paradox clones made in the trolls' POST-scratch session, but they were made in the humans' PRE-scratch session? Is this just inconsistency in the plot?

One of the reasons the pre-scratch trolls had to scratch their session was so that they would be created in the first place.  They were doomed to lose so Skaia was like, here’s another reason to scratch.

Which of the Dancestors reached god-tier. If I recall correctly, it was just Aranea and Meenah (and maybe Damara). Is that right?

In their alpha timeline Aranea and Meenah and possibly Mituna as he doesn’t remember if he did or not and no one else knows.  But in doomed timelines they’ve all ascended which can be seen in ministrife.

How did prospit get destroyed (shown in the latest update)

Jack English blew it up.

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Dave knew that he was going to be shot by Jade.
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Submitted by==> cresentmoon2000 

Ok so I was re-reading act 5 and there was a conversation between Aradia and Nepeta which revealed Nepeta didn't know Aradia was dead. So my question is who knew she was dead before the game and why did she want to keep it secret?

Aradia, Vriska and Terezi knew.

Whether Sollux or Equius knew is debatable.

And she didn’t tell anyone basically because no one asked. Ghost Aradia was really only focused on getting Sgrub going and didn’t really talk about much else.

What is this theme and where can I find it? You're navigation to the theme doesn't work for me.

I have no idea, this theme has been around since before I was a mod, and to be honest I’ve been thinking of changing it.

What really defines a just death, it been confusing me for me (love your blog btw)

A just death is essentially the opposite of a heroic death. While a heroic death is earned by doing something heroic, a just death is earned by doing something villainous.

So in the current upd8, is Dirk still zapped out in the furthest ring with the many Jacks/Spades?

Yep, he’s currently on his way back.

Why did Vriska put John to sleep while he was trying to prototype the blue doll as Jade's first sprite prototyping?

Because Vriska wanted Bec to be prototyped so that Bec Noir would be created.

can you give us all some reasons to love Vriska Serket?

Um, she’s Vriska, how can you not love Vriska? She’s a great character, a terrible person, don’t get me wrong but an amazing character none the less.

I love every homestuck character, they’re all the best, they’re all precious cinnamon rolls that are too pure for this world, yes every one, every single one, even Eridan, precious cinnamon roll.

To the guy who asked about Just Vs. Heroic. I'm pretty sure it's basically like this: If someone dies saving someone else's life, sacrificing themselves for the greater good, battling an unstoppable enemy to allow his/her friends an escape, etc. then their death is ruled as Heroic. Then, if they have been corrupted, are attempting to cause harm to innocents, are trying to assist a villain in furthering their evil agenda, etc. and are slain for doing these things, their death is considered just.

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Hello again! I'm a little confused on the matter of John/Jane's Father. I personally enjoy the ship of John and Roxy and well, if i'm not mistaking, is Roxy Rose's mother in the Alpha-vers? If so, then who exactly is Dad Egbert? I says in the Wiki that John is Poppop, and if that ship holds would it mean John is his own father? Also; who is Dad's biological origins? Wiki says we only know that Nana was the mother to Dad, father not so much info.

John’s not his own father, that’s for sure.  The Beta version of Roxy was Rose’s mom and the Alpha version of Rose was Roxy’s mom which is why they refer to each other as mom.  We don’t know much about Dad’s origins other than his beta version was Nanna’s son and his Alpha version was Poppop’s son.

In the new update is this the first time all of the beta kids have been together?

Yes.

Since Vriska now has never been killed in this timeline, does this mean she's still a god tier?

Yes, once a god tier, always a god tier

In the alternate timeline where Terezi doesn't stab Vriska (and John doesn't interfere) Vriska goes off to fight Bec Noir. Are we ever given a clear indication of who won that fight?

Considering that if Doc Scratch was a betting man he wouldn’t bet against her, Vriska probably won, but Bec Noir killed everyone else.

Can you list the good things Vriska has done?

She found the juju that gave John his retcon powers.

Ok, I feel a little lost on just and heroic deaths, I mean, I know how they are categorized but I though that if it was heroic they come back and if it was just they stayed dead? That was the whole clock thing? Or am I confused?

If it is heroic or just they stay dead, if it was neither they come back. Such as when John got straight up stabbed by Bec Noir, that death was neither heroic or just so he was revived.

What ever happened to the white kings scepter from the Beta kid's session? Is that still possibly around somewhere? (I really wanna a mega sized first guardian thing)

The last time it was seen was when Bec Noir used it to start the Reckoning it’s more than likely been destroyed since then

why did vriska want bec noir created? wouldn't she /want/ the new universe to function properly?

She wanted to create him so that she could be the one to kill him.

is it possible ancestors to be in the dreambubbles too?

No, they were not sgrub players

how did jade get her dog ears?

She prototyped her dreamself with Bec so when she ascended she became her dreamself who after being prototyped was part dog.

What happens after a sprite explodes ?

It’s gone.  In Tavris and Fefeta’s case their ghosts returned to the dreambubbles.