Could you explain what happens during [S] Caliborn: Enter? Please
Caliborn has had Calliope’s dreamself assassinated so he has succeeded in pre-dominating the body but pre-maturely. Because of circumstantial simultaneity at the same moment Lord English is traveling through the dream bubbles and he arrives in a bubble with his memory of the Felt manor. He uses his rainbow lasers to destroy the bubbles and shatter a piece of Paradox Space. Dave watches from the meteor.
Caliborn wakes and unlocks his leg and bites the other one off. He replaces it with a robot leg that Dirk helped him build. He releases his kernel sprite and it becomes a black hole, sucking in Earth and the red super giant that it orbits.
PM and Bec Noir pause their duel momentarily to observe the destruction of Paradox Space.
Do single player sessions create a universe? Did Caliborn?
No. When a single person starts an Sburb session the goal changes. The end goal isn’t to create a new universe, it’s to gain unconditional immortality and an endless source of power.
What happens to game constructs after the session is completed? Like the sprites and Prospit and derse and all that, do they disappear or what?
They don’t appear in Act 7 on Earth so it might be that they stay in the Medium along with the planets and consorts. But then again Terezi also doesn’t appear on Earth so we can’t be completely sure! Sorry.
When does Callie reveal her cherub form to the kids? And does she ever choose to or is it once she becomes alive again (thus having no choice)?
The kids first saw her cherub form when Roxy gave her the Ring of Life. Calliope has never been comfortable with her true form and doesn’t reveal it on purpose.
I have two questions. First, why do Kurloz and Damara support LE? Second, was Mituna god teir when the accident happened?
1. Kurloz serves Lord English because he follows the same religion as Gamzee and they follow Lord English as one of the mirthful messiahs and before someone messages me telling me I’m wrong and that Caliborn and Calliope are the mirthful messiahs here is a source from Andrew. We don’t know explicitly why Damara serves Lord English but the Handmaid did so this may have influenced her.
2. We’re not sure if Mituna is godtier since when asked he said he couldn’t remember.
Hey just wondering if you could give the link to the page with the post-scratch trolls when they're stuck on the meteor and it's like a game layout? I believe you play as Karkat and he walks around talking to all the trolls.
So my girlfriend and I are arguing over the dancestors, ancestors, and trolls and how theyre all related and since i can hardly comprehend the wiki, i came to my favorite homestuck fact desk to clarify. What are all 3 groups of trolls to eachother? how are they all related exactly? try to put it in the simplest way possible pLEase
Meenah’s group are the descendants of Karkat’s group. The ancestors are the post-scratch version of Meenah’s group.
A long time ago I got into an arguement with someone over Damara and whether or not they meant the things she said to people. I had read that she only wanted to make people uncomfortable or just be mean while the other person had told me Damara was highly sexual and actively slept with the other trolls, though I remember nothing in the canon about her doing so. (Said person also admitted to not reading the comic at one point so it had me confused.) What is canon about Damara?
Damara uses her language barrier to say inappropriate stuff to other trolls because it amuses her. Although even if they can understand her like Rufioh she still makes crude remarks. Damara used to be a very meek and generally harmless girl but because of Meenah’s bullying and Rufioh’s betrayal, she made a drastic shift into the person we met. It’s not canon that she sleeps with all of the other trolls since they’re all either scared of her or find her unsettling.
since genitals is never mentioned,they have indirect intercourse and no concept of sexuality,what exactly identifies a troll's gender? do they even have that concept?
Serkets can't mind control Pyropes or is just Vriska and Terezi?
Vriska’s can only control impressionable or weak-willed trolls. Aranea can mind control all trolls because she’s honed her abilities over the many sweeps she’s been in the bubbles.
On the subject of already fused sprites fusing with already fused sprites, consider this possibility. Somehow, if Davesprite found an unprototyped kernelsprite, could he not touch it and become Davesprite^2? Then as the new kernelsprite still has one prototyping to go, he could touch Jadesprite and become Davejadesprite^3 and so on?
In fairness, Hussie says Caliborn and Scratch are the messiahs. Though Scratch does somewhat remind me of Calliope. Is that intentional or just some minor similarities?
How does jade' popop life work exactly?We see bec kill him but he is in sburb to help out. Did Jade's popop have a dream self or was it because of hope he was less dead?
yes but none of that actually states outright which group was the genetic forebear of the other. karkat created them all, sure, but it doesnt say which group he created first. doc scratch says whats a given: that a group will be regarded as another groups ancestors, it doesnt actually say who is the genetic forebear of another, just who chronologically came first. if we were basing it off how the kids worked, than the alpha trolls would be the forebears, but its never stated outright.
The fact that Karkat didn’t know who the extra 12 were proves that Karkat’s group is the parent generation. Because if they were the parent generation Karkat would have seen them on the screen when he had to clone them and get their ecto-goo for mixing. And actually if we based it off how the kids’ worked then the Alpha trolls would be the children generation since the human’s child generation played the game first.
okay, the karkat didnt know is pretty good proof. i think sometimes when off-screen stuff happens tho youre not always given all of the information in the most logical way; like for instance the chain in which the trolls entered the medium is often debated because of conflicting evidence. your comment about the kids mirroring the trolls doesnt really make sense though considering that the beta and alpha trolls were a switched-glitch group like doc scratch said. anyhow my final proof is (cont.)
that aranea on page 6669 said she was terezis ancestor in a way. but its kinda confusing so idk
When Aranea said that she meant in terms of that she predates them as her next lines are
“[Vriska] had an ancestor whom she was aware of, and technically that is who I am. That is to say, she is who I would have 8ecome on your world, had I arrived in her place. Alas, I did not. She was a figure in your history who preceded you 8y thousands of solar sweeps. Whereas I preceded your entire civilization 8y 8illions.
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forgotten hs fact: contrary to popular belief, damara did NOT "become" angry and violent, she was like that before rufioh even started cheating. source: openbound 3 in a convo between rufioh and meenah
who are the leaders of each session? John, Karkat, Roxy (or Jane?), and... Meenah? Do sessions have to have a leader?
John was the leader of the betas, Roxy was the leader of the alphas, Karkat was the leader of the post-scratch trolls, and Meenah was the leader of the pre-scratch trolls.
what are your thoughts on actual satan bro strider being canon
Bro is the result of leaving someone with manipulation issues like Dirk’s left unchecked and also living since birth with an evil puppet like Lil Cal which has the soul of Caliborn inside it. I’m not trying to attribute all of Bro’s abusive tendencies on Lil Cal but I think they were definitely accentuated by Lil Cal’s presence.
why does karkats session do ectobiology but janes doesnt?
The pre-scratch trolls session had a glitch in it because they weren’t spawned in their session which is one of the reasons they had to scratch. John’s session didn’t have a glitch and he created all 8 human kids via ectobiology. This is why Jane didn’t have to do ectobiology for her team mates.
