I am stupid. Please explain credits to me? Why are people saying this gave Gamzee a resolution? And is the Caliborn Masterpiece fight something that takes place in Universe C? (And if so, how did it take him out in [S] Collide?)
OKAY!!!! CREDITS: Broken into lines so it’s easier to read
From my initial two viewings basically: The kids won and went to the sped along Earth they brought with them.
They spend some time looking around,Battleship crew got a tour around the Meteor and then they ectobiologically MADE A SHIT TON OF BABIES of human, troll and carapacian descent. (Luckily Jake didn’t eat any of them)
And there’s lots of troll blood colors so limited supply of live trolls obviously wasn’t a factor in this.They ship the babies out with some grown Carapaces.
Then time drop 5000-something years into Earth’s future.Which is where the end of Act 7 takes place.
They’re return is celebrated and they are treated as royalty/gods, splitting up and taking rule over the 4 kingdoms (possibly a Problem Sleuth reference)
John, Jane, Dad Crocker and Nannasprite stay with the Human Kingdom
Terezi, Karkat, Dave, and Jade stay with the Troll Kingdom
Rose, Kanaya, Roxy and Calliope go to the Carapace Kingdom
Dirk, Jake, and Gcatavrosprite go to the Consort Kingdom
They go to John’s house to celebrate his 17th birthday.
THEN ROSE AND KANAYA GET MARRIED AND I CRY THEY”RE SO CUTE
Calli for some reason brings the Trickster Sucker and they have a little sugar fun.
Why there is Calliborn in Credits? What the timeline of all of that??? PLS HLP
That’s the Alpha Timeline Caliborn, the one that the kids beat up in the Masterpiece, the one that will become Lord English, the one we watched in Act 7 get his rainbow eyes. He’s there to instigate the kids into surprising him.
I don't exactly see how suddenly Dirk/Jake is canon again, and how Roxy/Calliope is canon? Yeah, they interacted alot, but I don't immediately see anything explicitly romantic about it all? Sure, every other ship took a major back seat to the Human Marriage, but do you mind supplying some proof?
Again, I jumped the gun. I was drawn in by the hype. Everyone just seemed so happy and gay, very unusual for Homestuck. Conclusions were jumped to. It’s possible that the aforementioned ships were being hinted at, but are not likely outright canon, unless we get some juicy gossip in the epilogue. mah bad
What happens to the kids after they turn 20 and fight Caliborn?
Well that seems to be the end of the Beta kids as we knew them.
The Alpha kids haven’t really been explored passed being stuck in Caliborn’s session/Far future-Earth. Perhaps the Epilogue will provide answers in this category
So like, I'm a little confused as to where some of these snaps are coming from. I followed the msp Snapchat with John and the earth c pic in it but where's the rest? Are there multiple Snapchats? What are their names? Sorry, i'm kind of lost.
I don’t think all the snaps were released on the Snapchat, or purrhaps they will be released throughout the day
The nature of the juju and what we see it do in canon dictates that the trapped kids will be released in time, right? Isn't that the case? I mean it sucks but its not permahell.
Does it though? The other characters we’ve seen get sucked into a juju never quite make it out as themselves.
Is there a character whose origin is unknown and could be explained by the "fusion" of the Beta Kids through that white house juju ? Just like Lord English being the fusion of Caliborn, Arquiussprite and a half of Gamzee ?
Where is Jack and Ms. Paint and Crowbar? If they're not in there then do you think it'll be explained in the epilogue? Jack was a very important character
Well this is 5000 years in the future, even if they did come to the new universe with everyone they’re probably dead
The black hole behind Terezi was the one callie created, meaning everyone is coming back through it. All the surviving Ghosts, Vriska, Aradia, and Sollux.
Nono my friend, that is the Black Hole alt Callie created, but everyone is being sucked in, not coming out.
Why are all the ancestors skin blacked out? Is it a stylistic choice? Is it for dramatic effect? Does the skin go darker with age..? (then again the dancestors have the regular grey..) It looks badass either way
It seems like it darkens with age since the Condesce is still shown with black skin in recent events
Did the treasure even do anything in the end? It seemed like the Black Hole was what did Lord English in. Was the treasure ever really important?
Well that’s debatable.
It could have stripped him of his invulnerability/immortality.
We know it had an effect on the kids entering their new universe which would eventually lead to them defeating Caliborn so one could consider that part of it’s “used against him” effect. It’s unclear.
are the universes that the alpha + beta kids started out playing sburb in all dead? like, have they been eliminated by scratches or destroyed by lord english / jack noir or
The kids universe is/was being killed by the Red Miles.
The trolls universe was destroyed when Snowman was killed.
The Beta kids medium was wiped out by the Scratch
The Alpha kids medium is likely still relatively intact
So how does WV's feelings on monarchy gel with the three new kingdoms?
He knows the kids will be fairly hands off leaders, likely being more akin to figureheads than anything. I’m sure the kingdoms, or the Carapace Kingdom at the very least have democratically appointed leaders as well.
If they never get out and are trapped forever how will John die? Doc Scratch was reasonably sure that when John died, it wouldn't be as a scoundrel, indicating that he will die, and not live in, infinite house hell.
Doc Scratch just meant that if/when John died for good it would be a Heroic death and not a Just one. Because John is a good egg.
wasent it stated the juju when used again would resummon them? which is presumably what it did when Vriska used it, just we werent aloud to see that part
hang on tho, is caliborns masterpiece a confirmed thing that actually happens? as in, what if the ending and john smashing his phone is him beign like 'nah fuck you im not going to come get sucked into ur juju and live my life on new earth hapilly' idk jut a concept
come on man, you know that’s too good an ending for this shit show. They gotta go beat up baby shrek and jared leto.
