So given the last few asks about when Hiveswap takes place.. even though it's considered epilogue, isn't it kind of a prequel in regards to the events that take place during Homestuck?
Yeah It’s a prequel, the epilogue is gonna be something different hopefully
how did vriska ascended to god tier?
Aradia beat her up, Tavros put her on her Questcocoon where she died and ascended
How did the alpha kids ascended to god tier?
They were killed by Jack English and Condesce while on their Sacrificial Slabs
Can you explain why dirk hates himself so much?
Mental Illness™
So was Rox's only power like... making boxes appear and turning invisible¿
She could make anything appear and could also turn intangible
Wasnt it a quest bed? Where tavros was asked to put an end to her suffering but dint?
Quest Cocoon, trolls as a species didn’t have beds, they slept in Cocoons so their things were circle shaped and called Quest Cocoons until the rectangular Quest Bed
What's the difference between the slab and quest bed?
Quest Beds are located on the players’ planets and they need both their dreamself and original self in order to ascend
Sacrificial Slabs are located at the core of Derse and Prospit’s moons and the player only needs one of their lives left to use it
I know but it was a quest bed still she was laying down and the blood trickle down the stone wich isnt possible in a cocoon
Recap 3:
“[Vriska] instructs [Tavros] to take her to her Quest Cocoon, and to kill her…”
So if a player ascended on their slab, but their dream sealed was still alive, would there just be two of the same person running around?
The self that didn’t die on the slab would die. We see this with Aradia. Aradiabot exploded when her dreamself died on the slab.
When did we learn about sacrificial slabs? I only remember the quest bed
We first see them with Aradia, then with Dave and Rose.
Calliope discusses them here
How did Aradia die on her slab?
That’s were her dreamself had been hiding the entire time, then Bec Noir killed her
Xefros says no adults on alternia so do we have an underage heiress running this place :0
Yeah, she’s 7 sweeps. A troll isn’t considered an adult until likely 8 or 9 sweeps
how many of the human characters have a confirmed race?
None
Is it ever said in cannon that Dave's middle name is Elizabeth? or was that the fandom?
100% fanon
Do you think it would be possible for an adult troll to still be on Alternia? (Like, obviously in hiding 'n stuff.)
I supposed so
Why no troll but aradia and vriska go god tier?
They worked too well as a team. Vriska thinks that if they had kept with the Red vs Blue thing that more of them would have died and ascended.
how was lord english formed? sorry bad english
You english is perfectly formed *badum tsss*
But Lord English was formed when Dirk put Caliborn, Arquius, and Gamzee’s souls into Lil Cal. That essence was then used to create Doc Scratch which allowed Lord English to enter the story using his body after he died
Is there any clue what would happen if a god tiered (via quest bed) player died on their sacrificial slab?
Probably nothing, they’d just come back to life
has it ever been explained in any HS canon *WHY* the condescension orders adult trolls off-world? and is it ever explained how business and the education system work without adults to operate them? or are we waiting for hiveswap to save us
She spread out the adults so that it would be more difficult for them to start any more rebellions. Businesses are run by kids, we don’t really know much about their schools.
So, about the "people don't understand ectobiology" thing. I agree, however, I remember this one conversation between Dirk and Jane, in which Dirk implied that he knew something about her and Jake that would make them incompatible (the implication being them being related), and Jane said she didn't want to know? Did I just imagine that, or was it referring to something else that I didn't catch?
I just did a very casual perusing through all of Jane and Dirk’s convos and I can’t find anything that would imply that.
It's 2017, and people still think Jake and Jane are genetically related. :\
I mean, I know ectobio is complicated and stuff but come on guys, we’ve been over this so many times
What is lil cal at all?
He is a puppet and a juju, a comfy soul vessel
who ascended in the slab and who ascended in the quest bed ?
Bed/Cocoon:
John, Jade, Vriska, Meenah
Slab:
Aradia, Dave, Rose, Roxy, Jane, Dirk, Jake
Aradia beating vriska and then vriska ascending to god tier was after or before they get into the comet? I cant understand when she apeared and killed tarvos in the timeline... and why did tarvos tried to kill her?
It happened before they got to the meteor. Tavros tried to kill her because he had just got his legs, was feeling confident and was tired of her shit.
why is fannon dirkjake so much batter than cannon dirkjake?
Fanon ignores the many, many flaws of both
character
so then how was )(IC able to extend life with her touch (like how she extended the helmsman's life with her touch, explained by doc scratch)? is this a hint at meenah's thief of life abilities, or just something fuschia bloods somehow have?
Yeah, it’s a hint towards her being a Thief of Life, a lot of the ancestors show traits of their pre-scratch selves classpect
What would happen if a person who's dream self was dead, died on their quest bed? Would they just not ascend?
Yea, they’d just die
Where are the kids from? Like state, I’ve always been curious
John lived in Maple Valley, Washington State, Dave lived in Texas, Rose lived in Rainbow Falls, New York and Jade lived on an island somewhere in the Pacific.
someone said that page and prince are incompatible classes and thats why dirk and jake didnt work out, is that true?
I mean page is an incredibly passive class and prince is like the second most active so that might be why people think that but canonically it’s not one of the reasons they didn’t work
Does it means lil cal as actually alive all that time? but who is the soul inside him? who created him?
Post-scratch Cal was empty the whole time, Pre-scratch Cal had Caliborn, Arquius, and Gamzee’s souls in it.
No one created him, he always existed and will always exist, his timeline is a paradox, that’s what makes him a juju
I know The Signless knew of his other life because of his Seer of Blood abilities, but what other ancestors showed their classpect?
Handmaid- Witch of Time: In the service of Lord English she traveled through time bringing chaos
Summoner- Rogue of Breath. (breath not being defined in canon makes this speculative) Breath may symbolize Freedom. He tried to steal the Freedom for other trolls from the Condesce with his revolution.
Psiionic-Heir of Doom: Obviously he was doomed to suffer for millennia used by the Condesce as a battery
Disciple- Mage of Heart: Mage’s abilities are highly speculator but for Heart (Soul) she resonated well with the Signless’s soul with them having a relationship that went beyond the quadrants. She also made the Signless’s soul stayed alive after his death by recording his teachings so they would one day be able to be spread again.
Dolorosa- Maid of Space: Space is linked to creation and compassion, she went outside her societal system to raise a child
Redglare- Knight of Mind: was a lawyer
Mindfang- Sylph of Light: was able to see into the Cueball
Darkleer- Page of Void: After failing to kill the Disciple he lost his sense of identity, his Void ability was also used by Mindfang to hide.
Grand Highblood-Prince of Rage: a very angie boy
Dualscar- Bard of Hope? weak ass bard, couldn’t even tell a good joke
Condesce- Thief of Life: obviously steals life from a whole heckin lot of people and can extend lifespans
Why didnt dirkjake work out at all? we see them always together after the game is over, ya think this could mean they worked they shit together to date again or at leat be best bro again?
Dirk was overbearing and Jake was distant to say the least.
We can assume that they at the very least worked through their issues enough to be friends again.
What factors turned the original timeline (the one that starts the comic) to be doomed?
Aranea stealing the ring of Life.
She knew she was dooming the timeline but thought she’d be able to fix it
How did Mindfang benefit from seeing into the cueball? Like what did that do?
She saw that she would be apart of the Summoner’s cause, the future of an adult-less Alternia as well as her own death. It had a great impact on her.
Which page does karkat refer to troll vaginas as seed flaps?
I don’t know that it refers to vaginas but he uses it here
Can you explain in detail why Gamzee went crazy? Like I still don't get it and I don't really believe it was as simple as "he ran out of slime and got mad at ICP"
I’m sorry my sweet precious anon, but I am not touching that with a 1025 foot pole, it’s very subjective and up to reader interpretation.
You answered an ask about how the ancestors (besides signless) showed their classpect but you didn't include the disciple. I don't wanna be rude I just want to ask if she did at all or not?
Oh oops, I just forgot her.
Disciple- Mage of Heart: Mage’s abilities are highly speculator but for Heart (Soul) she resonated well with the Signless’s soul with them having a relationship that went beyond the quadrants. She also made the Signless’s soul stayed alive after his death by recording his teachings so they would one day be able to be spread again.
is daves middle name elizabeth?? or was that just a fandom thing?
It’s one of the older pieces of fanon
how did calliope have a dream self if she never officially entered the game?
She needed to have one so that Caliborn could kill her and predominate early.
If she didn’t have a dreamself then Caliborn wouldn’t have been able to do that, then Callie would be able to play the game but in order to play the game you need a dreamself so she’d have a dreamself for Caliborn to kill, etc etc
Basically, Plot Reasons
do you answer hiveswap asks too? what's your opinion on the tetrach?
I do, and i discussed my thoughts on Dammek here
Why did karkat forbid the trolls to go to sleep on the meteor? (I understand that prospit was destroyed, but what about dream bubbles?)
A: Eveyone’s dreamself was dead and he didn’t know what would happen if they went to sleep
B: The comfy dream bubbles Feferi had made for them didn’t exist yet so when they’d go to sleep their “dream phantom” would pop up in the a random dream bubble and you get shit like [S] Jade: Wake Up
what does "graveyard stuffers" mean?
corpses
So I'm confused. The new universe where the kids are living, the one where the kids are now the benevolent gods of. That's the planet that eventually becomes Caliborn and Calliope's home planet? Does that mean John and friends all die by the time the Cals are hatched there????
That or they either move to another planet.
Did Mindfang actually rape Dolorosa? I knew that Mindfang mind controlled her to make Dualscar jealous, but someone told me that much more awful things took place, but I'm not sure if it's true
It’s not 100% confirmed that it was the Dolorosa. Mindfang definitely mind-controlled the slave to do sexy stuff to her, so at the very least its sexual assault, we don’t actually know how much she made the slave do so whether it was rape or not it debatable
werent calliope and caliborn born on roxy and dirks earth tho
Yeah, they brought in to Universe C with them
the planet the kids inhabit at the end of the game IS Caliborne and Calliope's planet, but after they leave it. So it's Calliope and Caliborne planet, then its empty, and THEN it's inhabited by players.
Vriska captchalogued the Earth then the kids fast forwarded it in time until it wasn’t flooded anymore brought it to Universe C, made a lot of baby everything then went to the future again. (most of this is seen in Act 7)
Far off in the future the Calis hatch and live there and Caliborn takes the planet with him into his session with it later turning into the Land of Colours and Mayhem.
I'm a bit confused, the credits and Snapchat show humans and trolls living on Earth c but in Calliope and caliborn's back story, it showed alternia. Did the trolls just happen to find a planet identical to their home? Also does it matter the the father cherub destroyed alteria c as well?
It didn’t show Alternia, it showed a planet populated with Trolls that the Cali twins’ father attacked. When their mother caught up to him they fought and she won. He then slithered off and laid an egg on far off future Earth.
Where/how did we learn that Earth C is where Caliborn and Calliope were born? (I never caught that and suddenly hearing this makes me scared for the epilogue)
We first get the idea when we see a shitty statue of liberty outside their meteor and we get confirmation in a convo Caliborn has with Hussie shortly after entering