January 2014

So I think that it's been stated that Jade was Narcoleptic, If so how come she doesn't fall asleep at randomly any more?

She was never really narcoleptic.  Vriska used Jade as a test to see how she could affect humans with her powers, which ended up being putting them to sleep.  So every time Jade randomly fell asleep it was actually because of Vriska.

I have re-read Homestuck twice and it STILL confuses me. WHAT DO?

Get four horses and gallop into the sunset.  Live with these horses in the wild for thirteen years, after which return to society and reread Hometuck once more. Then and only then shall you understand it’s true meaning.  Trust me, I am a doctor.

okay so I just remembered something that utterly destroys one of my theories. I had thought that Aradia became a god tier because she was sleeping on her bed when Bec Noir blew up her dreamplanet. however, I completely forgot that she never had a dreamself. how did she become a god??

She did have a dreamself, it was on her questbed in the center of Derse the entire time.  Since she was a ghost she never slept so she never woke her dreamself.  Your theory was indeed right.

~Mod T

If the Alpha kids are the same kids created by John in the ectobiology lab, just sent to a different time, they never had to create themselves, right? So would the post-Scratch trolls have also been created in the pre-Scratch troll session, even though Karkat said he did the same ectobiology stuff John did?

No, the pre-scratch trolls were created in the post-scratch trolls’ universe.  The fact that they didn’t do any ectobiological shenanigans was one of the reasons their session was doomed to fail.

~Mod T

hey! do you happen to have any facts about grubs? i was wondering if their horns are naturally a certain length or shape, and their lusii maybe stretch or shape them a certain way to match their own... Maybe something about the brooding caverns? I mean if its meant to be a quality control thing for grubs then how did karkat survive? Do the jadebloods make the clothes for the trolls? is this why theyre so adept in fashion? if so did one of them make karkats special so he wouldnt be caught?

Not a lot is known about grubs. Based on the ones made by Karkat their horns are naturally shaped how they are. The Following of the Sufferer had been waiting for Karkat for sweeps upon sweeps so they probably intercepted him so he didn’t have to go through the brooding caverns. Fashion is not a trait exclusive to jadebloods. Kanaya just likes fashion.

~Mod T

When dad died was he in the game?

He was on Skaia. So yes, he was in the game

~Mod T

Did the alpha kids have consorts on their planets, similar to the nakodiles and salamanders on the beta kids planets? I don't remember any consorts being shown for them... Is that because they're in a dead session?

Yes they had consort, but the consorts were all dead.  You can see skeletal remains in various pages such as in [S] ACT 6 ACT 3

~Mod T

Can you give me a summary of homestuck in 30 words or less?

Kids play a game, unexpected shit happens, they destroy the world, they become magical girls and then more stuff happens, Also grey candy corn head people and ectobiological shenanigans.

~Mod T

*claps* wow, you actually did it. You know your homestuck well.

If I didn’t know it well then I’d be a bad choice to run this blog now wouldn’t I

~Mod T

Since Kurloz is very high on the hemospectrum, shouldn't he be extremely dangerous? How come he doesn't go on killing sprees and stuff?

Beforan society wasn’t nearly as violent as Alternian.  High-blooded trolls acted more like guardians than dictators.

Kurloz is still very dangerous though, but he seems to prefer to work from behind the scenes.

~Mod T

Can trolls still reach god tier??

I’m going to assume you are referring to the ones that are still alive.

Probably not.  If they could find a questcoccoon in a dream bubble or if Kanaya found Jade’s questbed, maybe.  We don’t know if those would work or not and the trolls probably wouldn’t be willing to try it unless it was an emergency. So we may never know.

~Mod T

I was under the impression that all the Followers of the Sufferer could do was breed a lusus of The Sufferer's blood colour, so that once his descendant survived the brooding caverns he would have a lusus to take care of him (since he would almost certainly die without one, as The Sufferer almost did). That, and they somehow gave Karkat his sign, however that process goes. Source for all that on page 005956

Hm, it looks like you’re right. Good job.

Besides, with adult trolls being banished from Alternia I guess it would be nearly impossible for a follower to retrieve Karkat.

~Mod T

So, where do the adult trolls go? Feel free to just link me to where you found this information, if you'd rather not explain.

They are scattered amongst the cosmos, doing their duty to expand the trollian empire.

The Condesce ordered this after the Summoner’s rebellion in hope of lowering the chances of another one ever happening

~Mod T

Is it ever described what the adult trolls do out in the universe, or is that left to the reader's imagination?

They fight.

“Ultim8ely, the ire of the Condesce would 8e such that in the settling dust of the conflict, she would 8anish all from the homeworld, except the young. She would scatter all who reached maturity to the stars to fight her wars”

~Mod T

In relation to the other ask, I had an idea of a fanfic where the Trollian Empire try to take over the Earth if SBURB never came into play. I'm still not clear on the technicals of Homestuck. Would that have been physically possible?

But the Condesce tried, but a meteor kinda blew up her base of operation so she gave up and set out to the Post-Scratch Universe where she succeeded in taking over the Earth.

~Mod T

EDIT: So, the Condesce aka the baroness had disappeared long prior to when the factory blew, it was actually owned by Grandpa at the time. But Condy was still there at one point or another.

So they're used to conquer other planets, most likely. Very interesting. Thanks for your help!

Your welcome, anytime >: ]

~Mod T

Hey, you're on my dash again. Good to see ya'll!

Didn't all the Trolls die after the Vast Glub when the kid Trolls entered though?

All except the Condesce, Fuchsia blooded trolls are immune to the Vast Glub.

~Mod T

So why doesn't the Condense from the Alpha kids game take over? Do other things change when a scratch occurs other than the portals around Skia if so why weren't both sessions connected to that of the trolls?

The Condesce did take over in the Alpha kids’ universe, she kinda rules the Earth and is the Queen of Derse.

The troll session created the Genesis Frog that holds both kids’ universes so in that regard they would be connected to the troll universe, except the troll universe kinda imploded on itself when sn8wman was killed and doesn’t really exist anymore.

~Mod T

Don't forget the primary reason HIC probably decided to take over the Alpha Earth instead of Beta may have been because she was likely privy to the fact that the Alpha session wouldn't destroy the human race via meteors like Sburb would in the Beta-verse. Whether this was a result of Lord English's machinations or otherwise is still unknown.

Yes, good point.

~Mod T

I can fill in some gaps in this! There was a portal between the b1 universe and the b1 incipisphere universe in the frog ruin's on grandpa harley's island, which not only allowed grandpa to freely travel the beta kids' planets during their time and then leave, thus returning to a time before his death, retrieving jade's dead dreamself to his island. Now, potentially, the same or similar portal allowed for condesce's initial entry to b1 earth, before having to leave and being enslaved by english

She was enslaved by English long before she went to Earth.  She was the farthest she’d ever been away from Alternia when the Vast Glub happened, killing her Helmsman.  It took her 612 sweeps to get back. Then the Handmaid appeared on her ship from Alternia’s Green Moon.  )(IC killed her and began her work under LE.  Her job was to be his “emissary” to go to the places he is unable to reach himself. Much how Doc Scratch allowed Lord English into the Trolls’ Universe it was the Condese job to let him into the kids’ universe.  That’s why she’s there.  As to how she got there, she probably flew.  The Green Sun intersect the universes.  The trolls flew the meteor there to rendezvous with Dave and Rose before going to the Alpha kid universe.  So despite being incredibly difficult it’s entirely possible.  

~Mod T

can trolls be lords or muses or what? or can there be more than 12 trolls playing sgrub?

Trolls can.  Those are incredibly rare and powerful classes though so it’s unlikely. And there can probably be more than 12 players, Hussie once said (albeit most likely jokingly) there was a 48 player Squiddles session.

~Mod T

are lords and muses found only in 2 player sessions? lots of people seem to accept this as canon but I'm not sure?

I did a quick 2 minute search and didn’t find anything saying they were exclusive to 2player sessions.  First person to find me a source that says they are exclusive wins.

~Mod T

Will eridan find love?...

Hasn’t he already though

How did Sollux use his cruxite item if the Vast Glub happened before he entered the game and was therefore already dead?

Now I believe Sollux died just as he was entering so he used his cruixite item at the same time the vast glub happened.  He died as he was teleported to his land. From what I understand the Vast Glub did not bring an instant death.

~Mod T

Did we ever find out what Karkat&co were like in their A1 iterations?

Nope

~Mod T

Does skaia ever repeat classes or aspects in <12 sessions? If not (i'd assume) what classpects would you use? Also does skaia go with the canon classpects usually? I know it needs Space and Time, but after that does it fill in with light and breath first? Also are Knights required when available, since they help the space player?

Skaia does not repeat classpects.

Classes vary, space and time are always needed.

There’s no knight in the cherub session.

~Mod T

Is there anything said in the comic about what a mage's power is?

Not really, but there is some great speculation on the wiki.

~Mod T

i thought a space and a time player were required for every session but obviously the alpha kids have neither. the beforus sessions' aspects transferred over to the alternian one, but why didnt it do that for the kids' sessions?

That is because the Alpha kids’ session is an 8 player session.  It was known that the Beta kids would come and bring their planets and aspects to the Alpha-session.

~Mod T

Was Gamzee's Dream Self ever seen? I know he was seen in the diagram showing the two teams' dream selves (/?s=6&p=004405), but was he ever there in-story? I have a theory that his Dream Self was hidden away in Prospit's moon's core, similarly to Aradia's, because I don't remember him anywhere.

I’m not sure, but I don’t think so.  I don’t think we saw Equius’s or Eridan’s dreamselves either, but again, I’m not sure.

Your theory could be right but it’s unlikely.  Aradia’s dreamself was in the core of derse because she was dead before she started playing sgrub.

~Mod T

Do any of the kids have friends outside the ones playing sburb?

I’m sure they have them, they’re just never mentioned.

~Mod T

Is serf a canon aspect?

Nope

~Mod T

What were each of the Beta trolls' lands (at least the mentioned ones)

In hemospectrum order

Land of Dew and Glass

Land of Wrath and Angels

Land of Tents and Mirth

Land of Caves and Silence

Land of Maps and Treasure

Land of Thoughts and Flow

Land of Rays and Frogs

Land of Little Cubes and Tea

Land of Brains and Fire

Land of Sand and Zephyr

Land of Quartz and Melodies

Land of Pulse and Haze

~Mod T

Wait so somebody's land's abbreviation was LoLCaT. That's a thing. Wow

That would be Nepeta’s.

~Mod T

Can I say shoes from Texas are dumb?

Say shit get hit

Not to sound attack-y, but can you explain how that was in hemospectrum order? Also, the Beta trolls are the pre-scratch ones.

No,no,no, Beta trolls are the ones that interacted with the beta kids.

Hemospectrum order, top to bottom. Feferi’s first, to Aradia’s, and Karkat’s last counting him as a mutant and not as a limeblood stand-in.

~Mod T

I'm sorry to ask for such a hefty answer but the condescence has always been a great mystery to me, could you find the time to explain her?

I’m not sure what you want me to explain exactly. So as an over view of her character:  She was supreme ruler of the trolls, then they p. much went extinct, she was enslaved by Lord English, and now she simultaneously works for and against him. She took over Post-Scratch Earth and became the Queen of Derse in that universe.  She is also working on rebreeding trolls into existence.

~Mod T 

Actually, um, if I may... Meenah is quoted as having said that she and her friends were the 'Alpha's somewhere... I'll find it, please give me a few minutes. It's in one of the games. Also, Vriska called Aranea her Alpha sister, I believe. I'll find the page for that, too...

It’s alright, another tumblr user shared that it was at the beginning of A6I3.  I remember that Meenah did call her group the Alpha trolls at one point.

~Mod T

Oh, okay! Oh, and I found the source for Vriska calling Aranea 'Alpha sister': w w w . m s p a i n t a d v e n t u r e s . c o m /?s=6&p=007908 Along with a brief explanation from Callie! 'UU: from alpha to beta, then beta to alpha, as if a moUntain to be scaled and then climbed back down.' It seems to suggest that it goes Alpha players ==> Beta players ==> Beta players ==> Alpha players. w w w . m s p a i n t a d v e n t u r e s . c o m /?s=6&p=007516

Posting it, thanks anon.

~Mod T

What if the reason the Beta trolls are so fucked up (Kanaya's weird fondness for fashion, Equius' abnormal strongness, Gamze's Gamzee-ness, etc) was a result of Karkat giving everyone cancer while doing the ectobiological thingy?

I doubt it.  Their dancestors share those specific traits.  If you haven’t noticed, post-scratch troll society was kinda fucked up. Aradia was a ghost, Terezi was blind, Tavros couldn’t walk, Vriska lost an arm and an eye, Sollux went blind. Those weren’t caused by ectobiology. The trolls were just in-general fucked uo

~Mod T

Does it say anywhere in the comic/other official sources whether there are other classes and aspects possible besides the ones show in the comic?

It’s heavily implied that there are others. None are ever shown or discussed though.

~Mod T

So it's stated that jade had (a)sister(s). Do you think that grimbark!Jade saved the earth before it was destroyed because a little part of her wanted to save her/them

I have never heard of Jade having a sister, if you can find me a source for where you got this information I can look into it and answer your question.

~Mod T

Where in the comic is it hinted that there are other classes and aspects?

The introduction of the Muse and Lord class hinted that there may be other classes that are situational much like them.

~Mod T

Is it true that it's implied that Porrim *ahem* pailed everyone except Cronus? I remember reading it somewhere but I don't know...

While it is stated that she has had many redroms, it was not specified as to whom all of them were. 

~Mod T

Is it ever stated if the shown canon blood colours (minus mutant blood) are the only possible colours? As in, you can only have Medigo red or Nitram brown, but nowhere in between?

~Mod T