Can I ask for a little clarification of the Dirk/Roxy Jane/Jake not being related? Why aren't they ectosiblings like Dave/Rose John/Jane were? I'm a little confused here.
Dirk, Roxy, Jane, and Jake are clones of their pre-scratch selves while John and Jade were made with Jake and Jane’s ectoslime and Rose and Dave were created by mixing Roxy and Dirk’s ectoslime
(Sorry for the bother and if this is annoying to deal with but) why do the humans consider themselves to have a one-way biological relationship (alpha kids --> beta kids) rather than the trolls do with dancestorship, seeing the other as both their ancestor and descendant (beforus kids <---> alternia kids)? Aren't they ectobiologically the same, despite the trolls' different manner of breeding?
Yes, this is a cultural matter. In troll culture they don’t have parents, there is no direct line of biology for them to follow. It also has to do with troll genetics, while it’s easily seen that each beta kid is made from two of the alpha kids with the trolls it’s more difficult. We don’t know the specifics of the trolls’ ectobiology but it’s entirely likely that each one of Meenah’s group of trolls could have been made through a mixture of three trolls, or even a mixture of all the trolls with the one that contributed the most genetics sharing the symbol. There are other theories about troll ectobioloy out there but overall troll biology is much more complicated then human biology.
Yo ! Quick question: which beta and alpha kids are related? As in, if you ship John x Roxy or Jade x Dave or something like that, it is okay, right? Or not? THANK YOU ❤️
Here’s a quick chart I made that’s probably confusing to read
aren't the betas somehow also the alphas' biological parents too, or something? i was pretty sure the parentage went both ways due to ectobiological shenanigans
Not genetically but John technically created all the kids so he could be considered the Large Father.
wait that chart is actually weird to me. there's no line connecting jane an jake or roxy and dirk. does this mean the Alpha kids are not considered siblings?
the wiki says that in the B2 universe, the roles are reversed (dave and rose are roxy and dirk's parents, poppop and grandma english are jake and jane's parents). it's under "ectobiology", click "post-scratch" above the diagram at the bottom
They are their “parents” socially since they arrived earlier, but not genetically. Like how the Ancestors are technically the spawn of Karkat’s group.
Are the rings of life and void the same ring? If not how was the ring of life created? I know the void ring came from the alpha kid's session but I can't remember where the life ring came from
The Ring of Life would be the White Queen’s ring from the Alpha kids’ session
Hey, what's with all those kernelsprites roaming around? How did they appear? And will there be enough to revive all the dead characters?
The kernelsprites belong the the Alpha kids. In the post-retcon timeline Tavris, Fefeta, and Erisol sprites were never prototyped so there were 3 empty ones. Vriska prototyped Tavros in one of them so now there’s Tavrosprite, Jaspersprite prototyped dead pre-retcon Rose and himself in another, and the third one is still empty but it probably won’t be for much longer.
is the red and black dirk-like robot boy an actual canon character or was he just made up because it's boring to draw a pair of glasses when you want to draw AR?
It was popular humanized AR in the fandom that worked it’s way into one flash.
So question, when condy had all of her powers in the GO!timeline, did she somehow just have them? Or did she get them by taking position of the black queen and wearing the ring which gave her the powers of whatever the kids prototyped?
Why exactly are things between Dirk and Dave so awkward currently? Is it their personalities, the situation or...?
This is tough to explain. Dave has mixed feelings towards his Bro after reflecting on all the abuse and hypermasculine life style he made Dave lead which he explained a couple weeks ago. Dirk is just awful at talking to people in person, plus it was only a few hours ago that he realized how shitty he’d been towards Jake in their relationship. Basically both parties are insecure and not sure how to approach one another.
This is a really bad character analysis. Dave and Dirk are not characters that I can go on and on in detail about their mindsets and the reasons they do things. So I apologies for that.
When in the timeline did Aradia God Tier? I thought her dream self was on a sacrificial slab in the center of Derse but Derse blew up when she was still Aradia bot right?
Yes and Aradiabot exploded when her dreamself died and ascended
So you know how Lord English is an amalgamation of ARdirk, cal, gamzee, and Caliborn? Well it seems like Jasperosesprite is the making a quad monster just like him. What do you think of the connections?
I think the running Cat/Horse dynamic is going to come into play (Rose had a cat and a horse)(Nepeta and Equius)(The repetitive appearance of cats and horses)(Roxy and Dirk). LE has Equius and AR in him who both enjoy horses so it makes sense that an opposing force would have cat lovers aka Jaspers, Nepeta, possibly even Gcat composing it.
Besides Nepeta who would you want to be revived and why? Everyone, but me, is hoping for Nepeta. I personally am hoping they revive Eridan. I want him to get another chance at life. He was a bad guy for a while but so was Virska but she went back changed everything to make herself a Savior and better seeming then she really is. Like she thinks shes good enough to take on English, by herself. I just want Eridan to get another shot.
Well, Equius is already alive again, kinda, for the moment, and he’s really all that matters. I dunno man, I think the original Jaspersprite and a Nepetasprite mix would be kinda neat. But it’s probably gonna end up Nepeta and Gcat in that final kernel.
Hey, sorry to bother you but the faq link in the description doesn't work on Tumblr for Android :/
The thing about people saying they can’t get to the faq because they’re on mobile is silly. Just open a browser and go to forgottenhsfacts.tumblr.com/faq
All smart phones and mobile devices have browsers.
Could you put a link to where Dave, "Reflects on all the abuse and hypermasculine life style he(Bro) made Dave lead?" That like... speech thing, Couldn't really find it and... Sorry?
ok so this is unrelated to... p. much everything but i read "I've really turned around on horses." as "I'm really turned on by horses" and now i'm concerned and confused
I keep seeing people talk about some Vriska (vriska) meme, and even though I've been in the fandom for a long time I've never heard of it. Could you maybe explain?
If the dreambubbles are only for the players why Vriska mentions that they should go to see a dreambubble of a version of John who never entered the game?
Let me rephrase, dreambubbles are only for those who are destined to play the game. That John was but didn’t get the chance and so he still gets in.
I've heard people say that The Rogue Class is the most important Class at Endgame, any reason why this might be?
I dunno, prolly cause Roxy (ie a Rogue) is the last chance at reviving the troll race by being able to steal a matriorb from the void. Other then that I can’t see why.
I haven't had access to a computer all this week and until Sunday, is it ok if I read without seeing the flashes?
The character selection screens are the only flashes that we’ve had recently and have no real content so you should be fine if you read the upd8s aside from that.
