October 2016

The order of the octet does matter, because doc scratch said that the chance of eight 8s was 8^y where y=8. This this number of permutations of eight dice, implying that either the dice themselves are designated as 1-8 or that whichever one hits the ground first is the first of the order

Dude, fuck, I dunno, I hate probability. Like I took advance math classes for most of my academic career and probability was, is, and always will be my weakest bit. I just am not good at it. I tried, but I dunno, maybe you’re right, I dunno, I give up, you guys are on your own for this one.

Do any of the Alpha kids play instruments that we know of? I know that Dave does rapping and mixing, John can play piano, Jade can play bass and Rose plays violin.

Jane also plays the piano. Roxy has a violin and Dirk has his turntables but I don’t believe we’ve seen them play.

Forgotten Nepeta fact?

She never said nya

is gamzee in the frigde

yes

if daves entire apartment building entered the medium with him, why do we not see even a mention of the other tennants

Because only Dave’s floor and the infrastructure was teleported

So there's this topic on ectobiology saying that ((for example)) dave is a guy because dirk is a guy and that it's impossible for one of them to be born a girl because of the genetics in ectobiology, but that doesn't make much sense to me. How do you see this ectobiology process in accordance to the topic?

That topic is using faulty logic because

1: it’s assuming genetics influence gender which isn’t always necessarily true and

2: Dave’s not a clone of Dirk, he’s got Roxy’s dna too. 

At one point in-comic, Jade says to "think of [the multiverse] like a giant solar system, but instead of planets revolving around the [Green S]un, there are many universes." We know the creation of the Green Sun is visible from the Veil in the trolls' session. Following this logic, would the Green Sun's creation be visible from any session's Veil, or only those orbiting it at a specific distance?

Should be only those orbiting it. I doubt sessions with a different Green Sun would have seen it.

How do trolls have a ancestors

The one that they’d consider their ancestor is the troll that they share the most amount of dna with

Why did Jack go on a killing spree and destroy derse?

he did not care for the new office dress code

Would any sea dwelling trolls with a blood color too close to the empresses be killed at birth? I might be wrong but I think the empress kills the heiresses in order to have a longer reign, right?

Yes, but that’d only be the fuchsia blood. Being close to fuchsia isn’t fuchsia

PLOT TWIST!!!!!!!! Tell us something about the mod for the blog c: I bet there super cool

Oh boy, um, well, here’s my ships, I like irony, Dave Strider is my role model, everyday I aspire to be a little more like him.  I love Pokemon to death, it’s my lifeblood and a pokeball was my first tattoo. I will inevitably get a homestuck tattoo but money, y’know. Also I think beetles are really cool. Feel free to hmu on my personal if you want to ask more things about stuff that is my opinion.

Additional Fun Fact: my babe used to follow this blog looong before they met me. They said it was super weird finding out I ran it.

Random-ass fact about Aradia Megido?

She saw Lord English’s ghost killing less as a battle of good v. evil and more as a form of housecleaning 

THIS is a very accurate portrayal of the mayor

Source

That is an accurate portrayal of early WV, but you forget the part where he learns manners

Which songs have Dave and Jade worked on?

Looks like they did Crystalanthemums and Explore Remix

Probably a dumb question, but how do SBURB/SGRUB players know their titles/classpects? Does the game tell them, do they just kind of know, or do they genuinely not know much until they go godtier?

They learn it from the lore of the land or from their consorts/sprites/carapacians

What exactly is/was the Beat Mesa, and what role did it play in Sburb and The Scratch?

The Beat Mesa is a construct that holds a massive amount of temporal energy that Skaia needs in order to enact the Scratch.

Basically, it’s like a fire hydrant that you crack open when there are too many irons in the fire. And the hose directs the water to make the fire go out so things can go smoothly next time.

How many times have you read homestuck? First page to whatever page was newest.

Twice. Back in 2012 and 2013.  I read through Acts 1-4 last year. And I jump all over the place when I’m trying to answer questions. So all-in-all I’ve probably read it significantly more than that.  But straight front to back, only the two times. 

Now I'm curious!! What was the latest upd8 when you caught up to Homestuck the first time? Personally I binged from Act 2 right into Horrorstuck and what a beautiful regret that was

I don’t remember specifically, but I want to say it was right around [S] Jane: Proceed, maybe a little before

I checked the entire word-log of Homestuck, and not once does it mention anyone getting a haircut or cutting someone's hair. The only time scissors are mentioned is when John checks his dad's wallet out, wherein lays "Scissorkind". Fun fact for YOU!

Well if you want to get technical, this video is linked twice throughout the comic and Cameron Poe mentions meaning to get a hair cut in it

DIDNT TAVROS ALMOST PURPOSE TO VRISKA

He certainly intended to

I am stupid. Please explain credits to me? Why are people saying this gave Gamzee a resolution? And is the Caliborn Masterpiece fight something that takes place in Universe C? (And if so, how did it take him out in [S] Collide?)

OKAY!!!! CREDITS: Broken into lines so it’s easier to read

From my initial two viewings basically: The kids won and went to the sped along Earth they brought with them. 

They spend some time looking around,Battleship crew got a tour around the Meteor and then they ectobiologically MADE A SHIT TON OF BABIES of human, troll and carapacian descent. (Luckily Jake didn’t eat any of them)

And there’s lots of troll blood colors so limited supply of live trolls obviously wasn’t a factor in this.They ship the babies out with some grown Carapaces.

Then time drop 5000-something years into Earth’s future.Which is where the end of Act 7 takes place.

They’re return is celebrated and they are treated as royalty/gods, splitting up and taking rule over the 4 kingdoms (possibly a Problem Sleuth reference)

John, Jane, Dad Crocker and Nannasprite stay with the Human Kingdom

Terezi, Karkat, Dave, and Jade stay with the Troll Kingdom

Rose, Kanaya, Roxy and Calliope go to the Carapace Kingdom

Dirk, Jake, and Gcatavrosprite go to the Consort Kingdom

They go to John’s house to celebrate his 17th birthday.

THEN ROSE AND KANAYA GET MARRIED AND I CRY THEY”RE SO CUTE

Calli for some reason brings the Trickster Sucker and they have a little sugar fun.

Rose feeds Kanaya some cake, adorable

Dave, Jade, and Karkat who at this point I can only assume are a happy poly couple but who know, go looking for jpeg Statues of Liberty and shit.

Dirk builds a Lord English robot for him and Jake to tussle with

John’s 18th birthday comes by, he stills love Con Air

Terezi goes looking for Vriska only to find the Black Hole and a bunch of Ghost dying

Jane starts CrockerCorp again with success

Jake starts Skaianet Enterprises again and gets his ass all over tv

John’s 19th birthday comes. Kanaya and Rose are shown in the caverns with all the baby trolls

John’s 20th b.day happens, he fondly regards his father

then he gets a snap from Caliborn from in his Session, rallies the troops and that’s when he goes to fight him.

This upd8 clarified when Caliborn’s masterpiece takes place.  And Caliborn was born in Universe C so all his stuff takes place there.

Basically the main stuff to take away from the credits is:

The dreambubbles being destroyed is confirmed.

It confirms when the Caliborn’s Masterpiece fight takes place, It’s when the kids are 20.

Sprites and consorts are confirmed still around

Possibly Dirkjake is canon once more

So is possibly Davekatjade? Not 100% sure but it looks like it.

Roxy/Calliope is  possibly canon as well (rip in peace johnroxy)

ROSE AND KANAYA GOT HUMAN MARRIED!

Also the kids are now the ages they would be in real time. Act 7 ended 2012 their time, Hussie jumped them 4 years ahead.

Can all godtiered individuals float?

Yes

Why there is Calliborn in Credits? What the timeline of all of that??? PLS HLP

That’s the Alpha Timeline Caliborn, the one that the kids beat up in the Masterpiece, the one that will become Lord English, the one we watched in Act 7 get his rainbow eyes. He’s there to instigate the kids into surprising him.

wait does this mean that after their happy ending they all just go fight caliborn and get sucked into his juju and thats the end or

p. much, ye

I don't see how the Credits confirm that the Lord Jack Black Hole leads to Caliborn's session

Okay, I may have jumped the metaphoric gun on that one. I was just so excited to be getting answers to some things.

So, since the dream bubbles are confirmed to be destroyed does that mean the dancestors are too?

most likely

I don't exactly see how suddenly Dirk/Jake is canon again, and how Roxy/Calliope is canon? Yeah, they interacted alot, but I don't immediately see anything explicitly romantic about it all? Sure, every other ship took a major back seat to the Human Marriage, but do you mind supplying some proof?

Again, I jumped the gun. I was drawn in by the hype. Everyone just seemed so happy and gay, very unusual for Homestuck. Conclusions were jumped to. It’s possible that the aforementioned ships were being hinted at, but are not likely outright canon, unless we get some juicy gossip in the epilogue. mah bad

What happens to the kids after they turn 20 and fight Caliborn?

Well that seems to be the end of the Beta kids as we knew them.

The Alpha kids haven’t really been explored passed being stuck in Caliborn’s session/Far future-Earth. Perhaps the Epilogue will provide answers in this category

So like, I'm a little confused as to where some of these snaps are coming from. I followed the msp Snapchat with John and the earth c pic in it but where's the rest? Are there multiple Snapchats? What are their names? Sorry, i'm kind of lost.

I don’t think all the snaps were released on the Snapchat, or purrhaps they will be released throughout the day

OK JohnRoxy might be dead, but what about JohnRezi..? ;o;

Well it seemed like it was still a thing. But we don’t see Terezi after the Black Hole snaps so who knows….

Are the dream bubbles BEING destroyed, or are they already destroyed?

Yes

The nature of the juju and what we see it do in canon dictates that the trapped kids will be released in time, right? Isn't that the case? I mean it sucks but its not permahell.

Does it though? The other characters we’ve seen get sucked into a juju never quite make it out as themselves.

Is there a character whose origin is unknown and could be explained by the "fusion" of the Beta Kids through that white house juju ? Just like Lord English being the fusion of Caliborn, Arquiussprite and a half of Gamzee ?

correct me if I'm wrong but didn't someone say that jake and dirks relationship wasn't healthy?

It wasn’t.

THE UPD8 I'M CRYING

same, im gonna get the rosemary wedding scene tattooed on my face

The black hole behind Terezi was the one callie created, meaning everyone is coming back through it. All the surviving Ghosts, Vriska, Aradia, and Sollux.

Nono my friend, that is the Black Hole alt Callie created, but everyone is being sucked in, not coming out.

Isnt crowbar a time travelling leprechaun (not a carapace) what if he followed them

He probably would have been pulled from that point in the timeline by now, given the Felts varies temporal shenanigans

Question - is Gamzee still under control of Cal(iborn)? It would seem so, no?

I can’t answer this safely. It just reeks of starting Gamzee Discourse. Think what you like.

Why are all the ancestors skin blacked out? Is it a stylistic choice? Is it for dramatic effect? Does the skin go darker with age..? (then again the dancestors have the regular grey..) It looks badass either way

It seems like it darkens with age since the Condesce is still shown with black skin in recent events

Did the treasure even do anything in the end? It seemed like the Black Hole was what did Lord English in. Was the treasure ever really important?

Well that’s debatable.

It could have stripped him of his invulnerability/immortality.

We know it had an effect on the kids entering their new universe which would eventually lead to them defeating Caliborn so one could consider that part of it’s “used against him” effect. It’s unclear.

Do we have any confirmation as to Vriska's current location?

Nope. She likely was sucked into the Black Hole with the rest, she was at Ground Zero after all

Forgotten Homestuck fact: when Hussie makes teh upd8 and u go aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Where does the black hole lead?

It IS possible that Terezi can travel back to Earth C at some point, right?

Well she traveled out there from Earth C, I assume she can find her way back

are the universes that the alpha + beta kids started out playing sburb in all dead? like, have they been eliminated by scratches or destroyed by lord english / jack noir or

The kids universe is/was being killed by the Red Miles.

The trolls universe was destroyed when Snowman was killed.

The Beta kids medium was wiped out by the Scratch

The Alpha kids medium is likely still relatively intact

so rose and kanaya get like 2 years of married life before rose goes to juju purgatory?? nice. Nice. Thanks hussie. Thanks

2-3 years, yeah.

Mod t should get that screaming john that he sent to caliborn tattooed on them selves. The one where hes like "step off"

wait I know this is a dumb question but where can I find the epilogue? people keep on talking about married Rosemary but I can't find it!

The Epilogue hasn’t been released. The Credits aka today’s update is on the mspa website.