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This might be a ridiculous question, but does Lord

English have control over sburb? The alpha timeline

Is set to only be the one that allows the creation of

Lord English after all. Does being Lord of Time mean

that he is the one causing all the doomed timelines

to be destroyed or that he is causing Skaia to do it?

Is Skaia just in a way another one of his unwilling

servants? I guess what I’m saying is, are Lord English

and sburb even against each other? Sure his

machinations cause the destruction of universes,

which is the opposite of sburb’s purpose, but also

his influence is why those universes were made in

the first place.

dingodad:

> one of the biggest persistent misconceptions homestuck readers have is that all events in Sburb are controlled by some overarching, interfering intelligence, and that this intelligence’s name is Skaia. when a character is given a particularly cruel or gruelling hero quest, “Skaia orchestrated it”; when a character’s actions cause a timeline to become a doomed offshoot, it’s because “Skaia didn’t want that to happen”. but this is explicitly untrue:

> > ROSE: … Skaia is a very passive entity. It only “knows” and “sees,” but it never quite “acts.”
> > ROSE: When it is asked to change everything, there is only so much it has control over.
> > ROSE: In fact, it has control over exactly one thing. The defense portals.
> > ROSE: It can decide to send important meteors to different points in time than originally planned, thus creating alternate realities.

> (remember how all games of Sburb start off with the exact same parameters, and it’s only data input by the players that causes events to deviate?)

> this is related to, and compounded by, another misconception which came to be common toward the latter half of the story: people fundamentally misunderstand what a “narrative” is and therefore get it into their heads that in order to be a narrator a character needs some kind of “narrative powers” - where did dirk get his “narrative powers”; how can doc scratch be the author-figure of alternia if he “doesn’t have narrative powers”? people think that, in order to have dominion over the incipisphere, Skaia must be some kind of wizard, capable of both predestining events and shaping reality to match its predictions. and i have occasionally humoured or implied support for this interpretation by referring to “what Sburb wants” or “Sburb’s agenda”, but these are merely convenient anthropomorphisations. the fact is that anyone can tell a story, and almost any kind of power can be wielded to reinforce a chosen narrative: highbloods control the narrative on alternia simply by living a long time; lord english controls the narrative not by conducting every single event to his whim but by being present at the beginning and setting small, key events in motion… Sburb is much the same. a video game is a type of story which can control its outcome with rules and code, but that’s the full extent of its power; the rules and code can’t change, no matter who’s playing the game, no matter what the supercomputer running the game “thinks”, and no matter what immortal time-travelling demon may or may not have hijacked the process.

> in one sense, yes, Skaia has been made Lord English’s “servant”. but in another, more important sense, Skaia cannot “serve” anything, nor can it be “for” or “against” anyone, because it is not a moral entity. Skaia is simply the cosmic force of creation, and creation and destruction are not good and evil. creation is an intrinsically neutral act, which can be at one time beautiful and at another time devastating - as in cancer, which is a disease caused be cells reproducing without limit! (and in the inverse: not only is destruction not always a net negative in homestuck, it is almost always a requirement for growth and rebirth; heroes must die to become gods, planets must die to give birth to new universes… the destruction of universes is not a uniquely disparagable crime that Lord English is committing, but rather a larger manifestation of a pattern that is intrinsic to the ecosystem of Paradox Space itself, just as it is intrinsic to real-life ecosystems.) this is in fact exactly what Karkat alludes to when he speculates the universe he created is cancerous. as should be obvious, there’s nothing actually physically wrong with the universe he created; it’s just that, like a virus or a cancer, Lord English has hijacked the process of creation for his own ends and made his own birth inevitable if the process of creation continues unchecked - a process which the horrorterrors, gods of death who at first seem to be malevolent but are in fact revealed to be victims, attempt desperately to prevent!