hi. i have a question. the rest of your ships are so good but why do you ship roxy and john? it looks like such boring het to me and roxy deserves better than him i think but youre good at explaining things and i dont think youre the kind of person who just ships a boy and girl main character because they stand beside each other so why john/roxy instead of roxycallie?? i really want to know. thank you

landofsomethingsomething:

I really liked John & Roxy’s interactions in the aftermath of Game Over and I was always attached to the idea of them growing closer over the fact that they are the only ones from the main cast truly “FROM” that timeline, if that makes sense. They are the GO versions of themselves, they survived those events, Roxy was THERE for those events and will always have those horrific memories, and John was the one who was there for her, John is the one who found her, and Roxy is one of few people around currently who has some idea of the true SCOPE of what it was John did with his retcon powers. (Terezi is the only other one who really does, I think, and that’s debatable depending on how you interpret the events of Remem8er.) 

So you have this mutual thing where Roxy is almost the only person John has to TALK about that to who can really comprehend it and John is almost the only person Roxy has who she was inarguably, irrefutably the “correct” Roxy to – remember, the Roxy from the current alpha timeline DIED. The Roxy we have now slipped in through a cosmic technicality arranged by Typheus and Nyx and it’s implied that the Roxy that Jane killed died BECAUSE Roxy made the decision to go on with John. That is some heavy, heavy, heavy shit! The narrative never really DEALT with that, but our current canon Jane Crocker literally murdered the Roxy Lalonde from her timeline in cold blood, and presumably will also always have THAT memory. 

Please note I don’t in a bajillion years think any of the kids would ever consider Roxy anything other but THEIR Roxy and treat her the same, but like, she’s NOT, right? And Roxy knows that. And John is from her timeline and doesn’t have memories of some phantom Roxy that wasn’t ACTUALLY her. If that makes sense. 

Plus I mean there was canon attraction there, canon flirting, they were cute, I don’t think them being het detracted from their chemistry. It was cute seeing John scrambling to impress her and it was cute seeing Roxy be kind of immediately smitten with John’s ability to, even in the worst actual possible situation, regroup and be determined to somehow fix things. Roxy was ready to give up. John is the one who convinced her it was worth it to keep fighting. 

So yeah. I liked them. I realize there’s a whole fucking boatload of fandom garbage happening with Roxygen right now because every fucking nasty homophobic asshole on the planet is crying salty crocodile tears that The Last Bastion Of Het In Homestuck was breached, but like, Jesus. Some of us shipped it cause it was a Good Ship, y’all. Had a lot of interesting stuff brewing around in it. 

I don’t find Callie that compelling of a character comparatively and never liked how young she skewed compared to Roxy and blah blah blah blah blah I’ve talked about why I don’t ship RoxyCallie on here before. They’re cute. It’s nice that Callie has someone after living such a lonely life who will spoil her with unconditional affection. I just don’t personally have any attachment to it or think there’s much chemistry there that is explicitly romantic. I can see them as queerplatonic at most and considering I always kinda read Roxy as a more sexual character it just doesn’t gel with my headcanons.

I’m happy for RoxieCallie shippers that are getting what they want; grats on being canon. I’m also kinda sad that my ship sunk, and on top of that, fucking assholes from shithole communities are poisoning the well on it in the aftermath, because it’s still legitimately my 4th favorite ship in the damn comic despite no longer being canon. Sigh.

I feel this on a deep spiritual level.

This whole situation is balls because I still really, really ship this, and the worst elements of this fandom have turned it into a lightning rod for pain and bullshit and it sucks. I like this ship for what it is, which this post summarizes better than I could. I hate that people are turning my ship into something so poisonous. I want to continue to enjoy the ship, to fic it and reblog art of it, to write meta about it. I want to hate the homophobic shippers, not the ship. Because I love the ship. I really do.