This is an extremely loaded question, because I personally didn’t think anyone was OOC in the slightest, and they all were acting exactly like you’d expect of them given their circumstances.
That’s an interesting thought and I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case, yes!
The Ring is a Juju, it has some bizarre properties. In-Universe, Jujus are notorious for being weird, appearing and disappearing at random and kind of not having a set beginning or end, so being able to travel in and out of the Bubbles through dreaming and resurrected people only adds to that. On a more Meta level, Jujus kind of work like Plot Devices, so it’d make sense that they’d move the plot along with something as convenient as that.
Jesus Christ that’s an incredibly strange use of God Tier powers and I am going to need a second to wrap my head about it. I feel Rage or Hope, being more related to Narrative Coherence and Contrivance in a Meta sense would make more sense than Mind, and possibly Space too merely because of the scope of those powers. You could also argue Light or Void if you’re going by the Truth vs Lies meaning- By making something less of a Lie you technically bend reality to make it true, thus ending in the depicted scenario.
It’s a Retroactive Name! Caliborn takes on the title English because of Jake, who is in turn only named English because Jade used it as a middle finger to Condy.
I would imagine it being more the Stats of THEIR Weapons specifically, seems like Heart Players do have rather personal and unique weaponry after all- Dirk’s Unbreakable Katana, Nep’s characteristic Claws. So I could see a Witch of Heart having some deeper connection with their tools- But more like their specific and personal Tools rather than, all the tools like that.
I mean, Time has an effect on Physics because the flow of time is kind of how we perceive reactions and stuff that happens in the physical Space, but it would feel a bit redundant to have any deeper ties between Time and what should be more noticeably Space.
I havn’t seen anyone point this out and I’m not sure if you post these sorta thing but it seems all time players prototyped themselves at some point of the game
Um. Damara?
Let me make this into Sadstuck and say they’re prolonging everyone’s Time by taking away from their own.
Wasn’t that exactly what happened to one of the Bleach baddies.
We never saw them with <> or c3< but they could’ve easily had them in the past, maybe Jade with <> and Rose with c3<? As for Brain Ghost Dirk, he’s a bizarre mix of Jake’s Hope and Dirk’s Heart. See, Jake, as a Page, and specially a Page of Hope, made a projection of his subconscious in a way that seemed reliable and good for him, much like Tavros has Rufio, Jake has Brain Ghost Dirk. Except of course Dirk’s existence is weird as fuck because he’s a Heart Player and has like a Zillion splinters, so even this one sort of counted as part Dirk, even though it’s Jake’s Subconscious Mind, it acts as a sort of Projection of what Jake sees in Dirk.
I mean, we know about some of these Carapacians because they are the Exiles. Otherwise, AR was just a police officer from Derse, and PM a Mailwoman from Prospit. It’s likely every Prospitian has a title of some sort to be referred as both prior to being an Exile, and after being an Exile.
One of the Thief’s primary trait is that they can be really powerful by themselves and kind of Get Shit Done, so definitely.
I know Sollux is a weird case, specially with Aradia being already Dead at the beginning of the game, but technically in Canon, Derse has 5 Towers and Prospit 7. Even knowing Aradia does have a Dream Self, it still leaves Prospit 7 and Derse 6 Dreamers, with one of them being a repeat, but like. Symmetry seems to be a slight leaning and preference rather than a rule.
I may be biased, but Condy.
I mean look at that.
Look at That.
She BIGG and there’s nothing you can do to convince me otherwise. I once took the first image up there to calculate her size averaging Roxy around 5′-5′6″ tall, I can’t remember, and the result was a 12′ Tall Condesce, not counting her horns- The Horns alone were the size of Roxy’s entire body, and that one drawing of her in Collide definitely agrees with that Headcanon. Heights are flexible and weird in Homestuck, but, Condy will always be the Tallest in my Heart.
Hmm, I mean the Skaianet logo is kind of in a Diamond, but it’s a bit of a stretch. I just remembered she does literally have a Diamond in something else though- The Girl’s Best Friend.
Did Rose ever Alchemize anything with a very noticeable and obvious Clubs symbol?
I don’t quite think much about it, Know and Change are sort of related enough that it’s hard to actually have one without the other, so complete control ‘but no understanding’ doesn’t sound too Witchy to me.
Maybe someone that Manipulates or Serves Hope? Heir/Witch or Knight/Page maybe. Maid/Sylph could work as well I suppose.
I mean, she’s the Highest Blood on Alternia and likely the Oldest Troll Ever, I would definitely give her the ‘tallest’ label.
Yep, also I know it’s not what you mean by ‘arts and crafts’ but I can now not think of anything other than a young Witch making a Summoning Circle Papercraft or something like that.
Dave and Rose died on their Sacrificial Slabs when the Green Sun was created, and thus kind of floated out of the blazing mass of the Green Sun and stayed around until Sollux sent the Meteor flying in the Green Sun’s direction.
I mean if you wanna blame someone, blame Vriska for Bec’s Prototyping, the Kids were actually doing well on time for Jade’s entrance until she got involved. If anything, don’t Witches end up Saving the Game every single time? Damara was the only one able to start the Scratch, Jade carried the Planets into the next Session, and it’s thanks to Feferi the Dream Bubbles even exist. Rather than Good or Bad, it seems Witches bring Game Changers.
I’ve wondered before about how prototyping a Chess Set would make every single Carapacian into an entire new set of Chess Pieces, with recursive instances of Kings and Queens, infinitely and eternally. Having each Underling and Carapacian be its own recursive Session of SBURB is absolutely preposterous and absurd. I love it.
Oh definitely, and also it seems they seem to Make others Do stuff as well at times.
It all depends on the Class, really- Even making someone less relevant. I mean, Vriska’s powers pretty much make her sap others’ relevancy on the Meteor and self-insert herself as if she were the leader and savior of everything. A Prince or Bard of Light would be able to destroy relevancy and Alpha-ness, wouldn’t they? Similarly, a maybe a Witch or Heir could be able to manipulate knowledge for deceitful means, and stealing someone’s luck, again, Vriska-like, definitely leaves others having no luck at all.
Homestuck is a story- In-Universe I mean, the fact Hussie is a character and how he interacts with Caliborn, the Glitches, the panel stuff, Homestuck in itself is a bizarre mix of a Narrative that takes elements from Video Games, a Theatre Play and a CYOA Comic. As we see when the Cartridge gets stuffed with Stardust, these glitches begin manifesting physically in the Session, and similarly, albeit not physically, Scratching the Disc makes us lose the ability to play games and eventually obscures what’s going on within the story entirely.
So yeah, the Cartridge and the Discs can have physical effects on the Session itself, even though we only see the former actually having a direct impact.
It wakes up the Dream Self, whether they’ve been knocked out, are simply asleep, or have not yet awakened in their Moons, corpsesmooching is a surefire way to get Dreamers to wake up if they haven’t already, and take over for the now deceased body.
I actually don’t know 100% sure, but I can remember one of the Exiles- HB telling Tavros to kiss the girl, so maybe it’s just something Exiles help with.
Definitely sounds like your run of the mill Session. Gosh, God Tier powers sure can go wrong easily.
At this point it may not come as a surprise anymore but, I’m awful with Pop Culture and Series and stuff, I’ve not seen anything about Sense8, in fact whereas I’ve gotten some stuff like Star Wars or Stranger Things through osmosis, I literally know nothing about Sense8.
Strap in boys because this one is a fun one, one of my Fantrolls is actually a Thief of Space, and I chose her powers based entirely around one thing. See, a Thief of Space surely can steal one’s speed or gain size by taking size from something bigger, perhaps even absorb mass to become more dense and heavy, sort of like how MK shrinks himself and becomes more dense until he becomes a Black Hole in Problem Sleuth? You could also say Stealing the Space between two things could make them teleport themselves or others closer, since they’re ‘removing the space’ between the two. But Space is very broad and there’s some nice ideas that can spark from it.
My favorite idea for the Thief of Space is Material Assimilation. Drawing from the materials surrounding them to give their bodies the same properties, or cover them with said material. Say, the Crystals in Echidna’s Cavern or even her Quills, they would steal the properties of these materials and cover their bodies in a carapace of hard crystal and quills, increasing defense. Or perhaps they’re about to punch someone in some fiery land, and steal the Heat from a river of lava to their own arm to deliver a searing, red-hot strike into the other’s face.
I can’t quite recall him acknowledging Slick as his Exile, however, consider this: Slick is the polar opposite of the word ‘subtle’, and the moment a Player enters the Session, they’re open to having the Exiles chat them up through the Station Terminals. The first thing we see Slick say to Karkat post-Intermission is like, “Been a long time”. Between that and I bet the THOUSAND times he told Karkat “Just stab that fucking thing, come on”, anyone would be able to determine who that voice in their head is.
Why thank you very much! Really, I can be a stubborn mule as well with some things, but the thing is, nearly everything regarding Classpects specially are Headcanons and Theories, and as well researched as they may be they could just as easily be proven wrong by canon. Furthermore, Classes and Aspects have been shown repeatedly to be flexible and versatile in their meaning and powers, so there’s not much ‘rigidness’ to be had in a topic like this! It’s giving people God-Like powers, and representing all the ways one can interact with every part of Reality, so of course there’s flexibility! As for the other part of the question, I’ve already talked about the Mage and the Seer of void quite a bunch, but indeed I mentioned they’d be able to know who’s lying, and likely see what Scratch considered pockets of darkness obfuscating his Omniscience. Pass right through the veil that covers any Void Player, and understand the Unknowable and Eldritch. Or, alternatively, Know Nothing and just be a confused mess all the time.
Nice thinking, I had not even considered something like that, and by definition I bet they would be able to do something like that.
I mean, all of the handles do make reference to something about the characters, but it doesn’t need to be anything major, just like a brief description. Aquarium is because Fish and Aquarius, but Caligulas makes reference to his more war-like tendencies. arachnidsGrip is self explanatory, arsenicCatnip is for Nepeta’s Cat-likeness, and the fact Arsenic is the 33rd Element. gardenGnostic is the first reference we get in-canon about the Comic’s Gnostic Themes, tentacleTherapist is…
Yeah, you get the gist of it.
A totally valid strategy, and also kind of adorable, little mini-angels going around…
HS does have Angels though, just not Rage equivalents, so it’s hard to tell. And Doom and Life are always weird because, pestilence and plague sounds Doom-y but it’s also tied to Life in the sense of microorganisms and sickness being biological stuff. Similarly, Undead could be Doom-related, but it could also be Life since it’s a body brought back to Life. There’s a weird divide when it comes to the biological part of Doom and Life, and I can’t quite decide which one sounds better.
… You know what, given the ties with Doom and Technology, that is actually kind of brilliant.
And isn’t that exactly yet another reason to call it Homestuck? First of all, we have the Souls of the Four Heroes literally Stuck in a House Juju… Then, you have the Metaphorical stuck-ness of the characters in this tale in which Lord English is always favored. And in the end, the only possible victory, is for the the entire Setting to be destroyed along with English while the Protagonists leave their Reality behind- Freeing themselves, while Lord English is left Stuck in this narrative of his own devising.
Kind of poetic and fitting really.
I mean, Tavros’ jut out sideways and Aradia’s curl downwards and then back up again in a spiral, so I don’t see what’s so weird about them.
That’s a weird question now, because Game Constructs always seem more Space-leaning than Doom, SBURB is treated as a gate between the Real World and the Session, with the Session as its own physical space- But Homestuck as a whole is also treated like a video game so… I actually don’t even know.
Eh, personally, I think there are no more Aspects or Divisions, and Classes can be argued to have more but I don’t personally headcanon any of them. However, I do like the concept of dividing Aspects into sub-Aspects, even if I don’t headcanon it, and in fact I did this thing a long time ago precisely about that.
I am. Also, a Good Lord would be one who actually worked hard for their position of power and use their power responsibly, not abusing others with it. The issue is that there’s so, so many more examples of people with power abusing it and those beneath than actually using it to produce a positive change in the world, but the possibility is still there!
I mean, that IS how it actually kind of works in canon! Light is broad and can be so many different things, so two, say, Seers of Light, may be better at different Seer of Light-related things and focus more on them. It’s this kinda stuff that gives even more flexibility to the system!
A Maid and a Sylph can both Create in the exact same way, Passive/Active is a leaning that doesn’t need to be strict when it comes to the ways you interact with the Aspect. That being said, Active and Passive Creation, you can have “Creating your Aspect” and “Creating through your Aspect”, which, I feel is easy enough to understand! Active Creation is Creating the Aspect itself, a Maid of Mind would Create Thoughts in other people’s Minds, or may grant a Mind to a robot or non-sentient object. Passive Creation, however, as Creating Through your Aspect, for example with a Sylph of Mind to follow the prior example, Creating Through Mind may allow them to come up with a way to Make something happen, or create things through their Thoughts, making Thoughtforms Real, as some sort of wish-granting fairy.
Intense physical repulsion between people, almost like Magnetism, is a fun interpretation of Creating Space between two people. I should point out Kanaya is specially known to Auspitice for Everyone early on, quite literally Making Space between toxic characters.
Basically, yeah, he forced the Game into what is basically an unwinnable punishment state, and still brute forced his way through it and managed to win a boon he shouldn’t have been able to- Then got mixed into Lil Cal and sent off to the Furthest Ring at the end of it all, where he could spread his influence everywhere. Talk about a lucky sequence of events.
Bard of Heart, they may put some heavy emphasis in either spirits, a lax hedonist attitude of doing what you want to do, or a heavy focus on a single person, either themselves or someone specific. I’d imagine their personality to be quite a bit destructive by itself, they’d need to be careful and hold themselves back lest they destroy their relationships and break the hearts of those around them. They’re honestly sounding a little bit Yandere in my mind at the moment.
Power-wise, Destroying Souls like Dirk, and Destroying Through Souls… Perhaps they would also have multiple splinters of themselves to keep in check, similar to Dirk. Destroying Emotions to alter one’s perception of others or perhaps to suppress someone’s emotions entirely, attacking directly at what makes someone themselves and casting doubt and confusion on their Self…
They’re actually the forces that are Against Creation, in a normal SBURB Session they are the influence opposite of Skaia that conspires with Derse to prevent the creation of the Genesis Frog. They will still offer advice to Dersite Players though, as chaotic, eldritch beings do, kind of incomprehensible in their true intentions. That being said, in-Canon they start getting murdered by LE’s mouth beams so they are more friendly towards the Players, and Rose and Feferi have some personal connection to them, so they’re double chill.
That’s a way to see it, but it’s merely a part of what they actually do, after all Pages can definitely grow to be powerful beacons of their Aspect, thus kinda invalidating the burden. I’ve heard ‘Wield’ too, but I kind of like the duality of Give and Steal.