Making Void could definitely have Corrupting Implications, although likely still tied to Horrorterrors Stuff. After all, Grimdark is only Void because it’s a Horrorterror thing, not because it’s just Void in general.
Changing Hope sounds like it could have big implications- Both dismantling or showing proof of a certain Faith to sway someone’s mind, or making people’s Hopes and Expectations of what comes next change. They could easily bring the morale of everybody up by assuring them it’s going to be alright, as well as they could make everyone depressed and hopeless. Seems like Changing through Hope, too, could get extremely manipulative, like, getting people to change their attitude or influencing a Change on the world by giving people Hope can be kind of Cult-ish, but it could also work in a kind way, like… They’re a powerful and reliable force, you just know by them tagging along with you it’s going to be alright, changing the tides of battle through the Hope they radiate.
Also, sounds like an extremely Magical Witch.
I’m a Doom Player! But for a blog all based on canon explanation of Homestuck Stuff, Theories, and general Homestuck Knowledge, Light felt more adequate.
Seer/Mage of Space.
Aside from being really good at Physics, too, I’d imagine they would have general Spacey Majyyks, maybe some sort of Telekinesis? Also likely seeing through walls like X-Ray vision!
And so he did, Equius succumbed to Void, and not only did he fade from the narrative- His blood was used as a cover of impenetrable Void to obscure information.
… That’s actually really uncannily cool, maybe she’s got something with Magnetism? :o
If we go thematically, it would’ve likely been Muse Lalonde.
If you’re talking about general, Aspect-based powers, the Maid of Void may have Eldritch Magic sort of like Rose had pre-ascension, but the Rogue of Rage… Chucklevoodoos are always a good answer IF they are a Purpleblood, but otherwise… A Berserk Mode of sorts? Purpleish Lightning Shit? Hmm. It’s hard to tell.
I believe I’ve talked about this before haven’t I? Oh- Wait no, it was a Lord of Space vs Muse of Time thing I talked about.
If Calliope was evil, though, I could see a ‘for the greater good’ kind of attitude, rather than English’ Mindless Destruction, she would be a powerful source of Destruction in the setting because she knows the only way to End the Story is to destroy it completely, erase every single thing and free the characters that are Slaves to Paradox Space with a merciful Death.
Stealing Doom can have a few meanings! If you Steal Through Doom, you’re basically reaping what’s left after a disaster- Opportunists, scavengers, that kind of thing. But Stealing Doom can also be quite the Heroic thing. Bearing the burden of becoming more and more doomed yourself so nothing else is destroyed is an interesting concept, and it’s possible it could go to the point of dying in order to resurrect a partner.
I’d imagine a Witch of Mind or Light would be more prone to Blackmailing than a Prince actually.
Destroying Through Doom, see the thing is that Doom is, by itself, already inherently destructive, so causing the Timeline to be Doomed, ending with everyone sort of dying, or spreading some damage or disease somewhere that ends with people dying would be destroying through Doom. You could take this a step further, if you consider Doom as Pain and Suffering, you could very well wear someone down and destroy them by inflicting constant pain of some sort, but never actually breaking them physically. Awful chronic migraines and body pain with no relief wouldn’t end up pretty for whoever the Prince’s fucking up.
I mean, honestly, not really? Because Classes and Aspects are arguably neutral and never more powerful than others. Lord could be an exception given, Master Class, but even then it’d depend on who the Player is and how they’re using their powers. So no, because ‘Hope’ isn’t directly stronger than ‘Light’.
Changing Breath, first of all as the Active Counterpart of the Heir they’d have some big similarities! So they’d be able to summon whirlwinds and do the windy thing in general. I could see them more likely to take charge than John, however. Big visions for the world, big goals, and a centerpiece to how the story is shaped. Changing Freedom and Detachment may mean influencing other’s decisions, oppressing or liberating people, perhaps making someone more or less naive/innocent. Changing others’ goals to suit their own… There’s a lot to the Witch of Breath huh.
I actually have! I’ve got a pretty interesting concept for one, but I never had the drive to go through with it.
Rather than obliterating secrets, they would be THE Secret Keepers, I think Secret Obliteration you’re thinking of the Bard of Void and the Maid of Light.
I don’t do questions like this. I’ve also turned down really specific Classpect Questions and more heavily Personality-based ones, because… Well. Classpects are Guidelines, but they’re not set in stone, they’re very flexible, so some of those questions make me a bit uncomfortable because I know they’re personal of whoever is sending them, or they’re way too broad like this one where, well. It could go any way ever.
Anything Light-related. Breath and Life are good contenders too, but mainly Light.
Heirs are Changed by their Aspect and are at risk of being consumed by it. Mituna was consumed by Doom and left incoherent to his friends, Equius was consumed by Void to the point his very Blood has been used to obscure information. John managed to control his powers, the Windy Thing, the Plot Retcon, his role as the Heroic Leader, his Detachment from the story, he could’ve been consumed by it as well, but he pushed through for his friends.
Maids, on the other hand, are ‘Made of’ their Aspect. They’re fairy-like- Meddlesome, can have big tempers, and as Fairies are Elemental-like, the pun of being ‘Made of’ their Aspect transcends linguistics and becomes an actual thing. Aradia started Dead- Straight away, the connection between Time and Decay are evident, and after Ascension, she’s in no hurry to do anything, she’s super chill and merely wants to see things End. She states several times she’s not running out of Time at all- In fact, she’s ‘Made of it’. She doesn’t ‘embody’ the Aspect like how Heirs can, but she definitely lives up to the title.
Jane is a waaay more confusing case than Aradia. She’s from a rich and influential family, her body self-regenerates when her Dreamself Dies, there’s hints here and there of how she’s kind of Made of her Aspect? But at the same time, she’s being oppressed from several angles at the same time. Jake forced her into a one-sided nagging about his relationship with Dirk, which really wore her down- As the Page, she was forced to Serve him. Similarly? She’s the Crockercorp Heiress. And Condy certainly acts like she’s her Heir, to the point of Stealing her Agency away entirely, and imposing a Role she’s not upon her. So her references to Maidenhood are less and more obscure, simply because she’s not exactly in the most healthy place for most of the story.
If anything, a Maid being like a Heir is an unhealthy situation they must break free from and learn to do what they want- Where a Heir may be changed, altered by their situation and slowly mold to fit it, Maids will be unhappy and tension will build up until they cannot take it anymore and break down.
God dammit, I only have the Bard of Breath doing that pose, imagine he’s green and with the Doom Symbol.
Rose as a Seer of Light knows the ‘Alpha’ way of doing things, what’s Relevant and needs to be done. She also learns everything there is to learn about SBURB, so yes, a Mage’s powers could similarly allow them to know a good deal of just about everything relevant. Much like how Doc Scratch is nigh-omniscient but there’s still dark spots that elude him, and can simply speculate about certain non-relevant outcomes.
The probability of outcomes may be more tied to Mind.
Mhmm! :o This kind of introspection is always interesting.
It’s hard to say what its actual function is/was, there’s a LOT of symbolism in Act 7 that can be taken in multiple ways. Many people think the trapped Kids come out of the House to beat LE up but I personally think it’s something else entirely. Maybe the Epilogue will give us some canon look at the events post Act-7.
There’s going to be an Epilogue at some point. Is this not general knowledge? I thought it was. The ride never ends, boys.
It makes it more personal, but the thing is- Does it need to be Personal? Does it need to be a Big God Damn Deal? They’re Kids that had their teenage years stolen by a Universe-Building Game leading into a Conspiracy to Save All of Reality, dying several times along the way. They deserve some rest already without needing to face Buffskull McPegleg. That’s why I personally don’t think they pop out of the House.
Also because them popping out of the House means they pop out to kill English, only to sort of get stuck in a crumbling Paradox Space? Because I still don’t think Act 7′s Timeline is the Masterpiece Timeline.
Being served Mind sounds like they would be getting asked their opinion on things a lot! Being served Choices though, I don’t quite know if it would be being served an overwhelming amount of paths to follow, or being served specific Choices that limit their own agency. I feel people may try to make them learn a lot and get smarter and come up with strategies and stuff. Hmm. Fully realized, though, Serving Mind sounds like they may be able to broaden a Session’s horizons and not get stuck to a single choice, gain a lot of knowledge… For some reason I can’t help but imagine the Page of Mind as the Enlightened Chakra Blitzed Brain image from those memes.
It’s possible that Vriska survived the Black Hole, and honestly that’s my biggest fear for the Epilogue. I really want Vriska to die with English, it’d feel so good thematically.
Strongest and Weakest mean nothing for Classpects, because Classpects are only as Strong as the character that has those powers. Even a Lord would be useless with certain kinds of people. I would kind of love to see statistics on what Class and Aspects are the most common though. Maybe I’ll make a Strawpoll at some point.
First of all, foresight of ANY kind during a combat is overpowered. To know what your enemy is going to do, where they’re going to be, immediately allows for you to counter the attack before they can even start it. If a Seer is proficient at combat, they can absolutely wreck. Remember, if you Know, you can Change the outcome, just based on that new knowledge you gained. Adding on top of that, Aspect Majyyks are completely possible- See Rose’s Light Magic. She’s a Seer, but she can cast light beams and spells. So there’s not really anything truly ‘non-combat’ when it comes to Classes, same way there’s not Classes that are ‘only combat’.
It really does, doesn’t it.
The thing with Pages, is that they tend to make up something to sort of distract themselves, projections. Jake has Brain Ghost Dirk, Tavros has Rufio. Horuss either has Nothing because of him being a Page of Void, just his obliviousness, or the fact he’s Hoofbeastkin counts as his mental projection. Jake manages to make Brain Ghost Dirk more real because, tying to his aspect, Hope, he’s literally “believing in him so hard he becomes a little bit less fake”. Tavros doesn’t have this projection made reality, but he does have an /army/ by the end of the comic. So a Page of Mind? Yeah, they could likely make a god damn Army of Thoughtforms to serve them.
Terezi deserves better than Vriska. Terezi deserved (Vriska), but Vriska is an asshole who pretty much keeps Terezi around in a one-sided Moirailship, to praise her and butter her up while she sells her promises of being someone she’s never going to be.
Let me just use this ask as the now Weekly Reminder to check my Tags before asking Classpect Questions in case I have already answered these!
He technically does though- A Prince of Void and Heart and a Heir of Heart and Void, given he’s a very noticeable manifestation of the more ARquius-y side of the Souls trapped in Lord English. As a Prince of Void, he shreds the veil of obscurity of the Dark Spots that block his First Guardian Omniscience when he gets closer to the moment they happen, as well as offers some advice to Characters. As a Heir of Void, he makes Rose Change into Grimdark by making her look into the Cueball, and Changes the very Nature of the Furthest Ring by sending her and Dave to blow the Tumor in there, creating the Green Sun. As a Heir of Heart, his own nature changes entirely as his self is used as a host to give birth to Lord English. And as a Prince of Heart, well he’s kind of a big asshole that conditions Alternia to be more violent, so you could say he kind of destroyed the more positive feelings and emotions within the Troll Race.
Black Skin is actually a stylistic choice to depict Adult Trolls. We can see this same stylistic choice being used on Trizza at the end of Act 1 of Hiveswap.
This is proved in canon by this panel, in which the Handmaid (Slightly Off-Screen) is shown to have Grey Skin, even though she’s depicted completely black in every other panel.
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I mean, grey skin and black lips could just be the way their bodies are naturally colored by bullshit pigmentation stuff which I know nothing about so don’t take my word for it ssssh.
But having the ‘Highblood’ and ‘Lowblood’ difference be literally because Lowbloods have Low Blood Pressure and the Highbloods have High Blood Pressure is interesting. Specially considering Lowbloods are culled by the dozens and Highbloods are more important, it’d be like, a Lowblood gets a limb cut off and it kinda dribbles out little by little, but you cut a Highblood’s arm off and it’s this obscene gush of blood and everyone’s screaming.
I like this Headcanon.
That’s… An interesting concept.
I mean, it’s a part of their Culture, the LE Cult Worship and such. I do wonder if Purples are forced to worship LE and do the whole juggalo shtick though, or if there ARE non-clown Purples out there.
Likely, every Caste would be able to play, but the Higher Bloods would be the only ones allowed to use/able to afford bigger and more secure vehicles, with Rusts maybe not even going around with a vehicle at all.
Arena Stickball is played by all sorts of Castes, but the most dangerous positions are Rusts because they don’t care if they die. Also Arena Stickball isn’t ‘baseball’, but rather this frivolous combination of Baseball, American Football, Billiards and god damn Quidditch of all things. The Arena Stickball Cue Bats, too, sort of remind me of Cricket Bats, so maybe add that to the bizarre mix of sports.
It does look like she exploded, and it’s a very Unique thing of that scene. Whether it is because only the finger was cut off and it released some Ring Majyyk Energies, because Jack used the Royal DERINGER and that makes it special, because Hussie still wasn’t sure what happened when the Rings were yanked off, or if she didn’t explode and her kind of gruesomely dismembered body was laying off-screen but it was too bad to even show it on-screen, it’s just a thing that happened.
It’s hard to tell if Bec, given he’s a Dog, also had Omniscience. Even if he knew it would lead to Bec Noir being created, however, it’s just like Vriska said. His existence is pretty much necessary for the Troll and Human Sessions to become intertwined and the Alpha to go as it needs to go.
I noticed that too, but to me it just sort of looked like it was twitching because it had been recently cut and so it was like. Nervous post-death spasms before it stops.
If the Class and Aspect Challenge the people with the Classpects, it’s only because they’re not mature enough or haven’t grown and are reluctant or held back from their True Classpect. Even while tearing apart SBURB and being all Grimdarky, the way Rose just seeks to find how SBURB works and information about the brightest object in the Furthest Ring is so Seer of Light it hurts. The Quests on the Lands MAY challenge the Players, but their Roles fit the most healthy way of being for them.
While the Mages and Seers are both Know Classes and you could say they Know in different ways? Given the examples in Canon, it seems that Seers seek out information about what they need from a source- Their environment, the Gods, Skaia, the Consorts- While a Mage seems to be more naturally insightful about it- Sollux hearing the voices of the Dead, Meulin merely knowing which pairings would go better. So while Seers can have that gut feeling- Rose knowing the way to send the Meteor- And Mages can seek information, you could say they’re predisposed to have that little divide.
I gave my thoughts about this in the past, and sadly, we don’t know enough about Elementals of various kinds to tell exactly what each Aspect’s Maid Elemental could be! Hope’s being Angels, but other than that, who knows. A Space or Mind Golem may be more like an actual, traditional Golem however. Heart, though… I believe I’ve argued some splinter of the Player before, a copy of themselves, but I really am not sure. Making Abstractions into Physical elementals would depend heavily on the context and situation to call the shots straight away!
The fact Thieves are powerful Solo Classes and can have pretty bad tendencies doesn’t mean all of them are awful and can’t cooperate. Meenah and (Vriska) have great moments, a Player’s Class will never change because they’re at a better spot, the Class and Aspect reflects their TRUE NATURE and any deviation from that will likely not be healthy. A Thief being generous and sharing can happen, if they want to accomplish a goal and have their friends backing them up, they can share the spoils to reach a common goal.
Not to say, Class stuff is Guidelines and not Set in Stone.
You just wait until you hear about Yaoi Bonelord.
Oh, of course! All of the stuff I do here is either taken from canon or just headcanons and theories for the Fandom, you don’t even need to ask!