January 2018

since someone mentioned changing title/classpect, while a given title is supposed to represent the core of a person and, as you put it, their healthiest way of being, what if someone's title /did/ change, like, an event happened that was so momentous to them that it shook them to their core, and changed them drastically? Or, maybe in the cases of some possible Witches, such as of Mind or Heart, that they changed a person so drastically as to alter their title/claspect?

I’ve argued a Witch or Heir of Heart being able to perhaps accomplish this thing, but it would need to be a rebuilding of their character rather than a ‘shaking of their core’. After all, remember, SBURB is an Omniscient Entity that already Knows such drastic shifts are going to happen. So likewise, Classpects relate to who the Character is going to Be, or Could Become, rather than what they Are right now.

Hey its me, the high blood pressure anon. I was trying to say that all the trolls seem to produce a lot of blood and still live (terezi, i think, produced a CRAP ton of blood before john fixed everything) but thats another way to look at it!

Terezi was too god damn determined to die even while dripping blood from every orifice of her face, the poor thing. Someone should calculate the volume of blood just like, sprayed and smeared through the entirety of Homestuck.

Hey , what Classpects do you think someone who works in forensics would have ? Though I know it could be almost any classpect , but what classpect would make the most sense in that line of work ?

Maybe a Seer or Mage of Light? Doom may be a valid one too, if you relate Crime to Doom.

if Light is about knowledge, and a Light player interpreted it as such, could other classes that aren't the Change or Know classes just inherently know things the way a Seer or Mage would? or would they be more inclined to acquire knowledge rather than just have it?

I mean, for you to Make or Serve Knowledge, for Example, you likely need to /know/ it to begin with, unless you were delivering some sort of code only someone else could understand. Thieves and Rogues would be good at gathering information as well. Seers and Mages though, not only are good at collecting Info, they’re good at using it to guide others and themselves. After all, having Knowledge on something doesn’t matter if you don’t know what to do with it, right?

Also I should point out Light refers more to True Information than Broad Knowledge. True Statements, Proven Facts, with lies, opinions and other forms of informations falling under other Aspects’ realms.

Regarding the queen's twitching finger, it's got an interesting story. Originally, it was an animation error, but after seeing the flash in motion, Andrew Hussie decided the "animation error" looked pretty badass so he decided to leave it in.

I’d have done the same honestly, it works on various levels, to draw the eye to the finger like “Hey, Ding Dong the Queen is Dead”, and also the twitching post-death thing that just looks cool in general.

follow up to the Light = knowledge, can other classes know things: would "guide" be a sort of supplement verb to "know" for Seers and Mages, because that's really what sets them apart from everyone else?

Each Class has supplementary, related verbs, really, so you could say that’s the case. Much like how Maids and Sylphs also Improve and Heal, or how Knights and Pages are known to Weaponize. So yeah, Knowing, Understanding, Guiding…

Jake was able to make a Dream Ghost Dirk, and when he went full power after Aranea DGD became real. Before that Terezi(Seer of Mind, keep that in Mind(HA! Puns)) could see DGD when no one else could. Now stay with me. When on the meteor, Terezi told Tavros not to believe anyone that says Rufio isn't real. Could all Pages have the ability to make mind projections. And if so, could a Page of Mind make an army by just thinking hard enough(since these projections are more of a mind thing)

I occasionally get asks like this that are obvious repeats of an older one I’ve already answered, and, make sure to check your Activity and Notifs and not send the same thing twice, I answer to like 90% of the stuff I get here!

If the whole internet, I mean everything(YouTube, Google, the Dark Web, and everything in between. All of it) was a person, what would their Classpect be? I say a Lord of Blood, but I want to hear your thoughts

I’m sorry for Internet-tan but I don’t think we we could reduce the entirety of the Internet to a single personality. If anything, maybe a Lord of Heart or Mind, merely because of the many differing opinions and people and just. Things in general.

I feel so sad for both Damara and Handmaid. Both were abused emotionally :(

Yeah, Handy with Scratch pretty much kidnapping her and conditioning her to serve LE, only to be caught by the Big Man Himself when she finally gets a chance to escape, and Damara by Meenah until she snaps, and then picked up by Kurloz at her weakest moment to get her to serve Lord English.

I’d say she deserves a hug but I’m afraid what she could do if you got within a few inches of her in the Bubbles.

Hello , as a follow up to that last person question ( since the topic of mages and sees of light came up ), what is the difference between a mage and seer of light ? Like how do they use/wield there knowledge as well as earn this knowledge

We see Rose gathering information from her Session, from the Horrorterrors, from the Trolls, and putting it together in a neatly intelligible package, but she still simply Knows the only way they’re getting out of the Furthest Ring without space-time bullshit. Similarly, while Meulin knows the pairings that’d work better, she also gathers information about relationships through gossip of who’s gotten with who for her matchmaking. As I’ve said before, Seers seem more predisposed to gather info, and Mages to intrinsically know things, but both can do either.

However, there IS a notable divide in the Comic. Rose takes it upon herself to bring the Tumor to the Furthest Ring- A suicide mission that’s in no way healthy for her. Terezi tries to stop Vriska herself, and ends up making a Choice that torments her for the rest of her life. Kankri rambles on trying to change what he perceives to be injustices, only to end up just being an annoying twat. Whenever Seers take action themselves, whether they’re successful or not, they seem to be in an unhealthy spot. However? When Rose guides the Meteor to reach the Session, it gets there just as planned, and the information she gathers helps and influences Calliope of all characters. Terezi’s most powerful use of her Powers was guiding John back through her Memories and making him change the Timeline by pin-pointing exact moments things could’ve gone differently, she doesn’t Change it herself, she tells him to F1X TH1S. The Sufferer didn’t try to stage the Rebellion himself- He gathered followers and showed them the good way he wanted Trolls to follow. 

On the other side? Meulin takes it upon herself to be the Miracle Worker of the group, and that’s the main divide between Seers and Mages. Mages can be Passive, Seers can take direct action, but when it comes to what they prefer to do, and what they’re most effective at? Meulin directly tried to influence who people were getting paired with according to her vision of romance. Sollux took direct action to code SBURB as an attempt to save his Species, even though it ended up working the opposite intended way. The Sufferer’s Selfless Spread of his Knowledge to influence a Change in people, vs the Disciple’s Selfish Reclusion after his Death and direct Preservation of the Teachings she Knew so much about.

Seers and Mages are Prophets, with Seers more likely to try and make others See the way they do, and Mages trying to work Miracles to do things according to their Vision.

I always like to imagine what a thief of time could do. Maybe they're responsible for when its suddenly 4am, those fuckers

It just works.

what god tier would Tumblr be?

The Heap of Trash.

Who's better, Geromy it the Bigg man who wants us to keep it real about AIDS?

Obviously the best is Peaches.

How many times a day do you get the "What's Homestuck?" Joke?

Not a single time.

There is a post going around about how light is relevance rather than knowledge, and I agree with it. Tbh I think void would have more to do with knowledge (obscuring it) and mind is the information class

There are different kinds of Information. Knowledge as Knowledge in itself, yeah it’s more in the Mind Territory, but the connections with Light and Truth, True Information, Factual Information, Alpha Realities, ties in with it. I do partially agree with that though- The line between Information and Knowledge is kind of blurry specially when you’re not a native English Speaker, so sometimes I may mix words like that.

So isn’t the difference between light and mind light is the informatio presented while mind is about having the intelligence and wisdom to use that information porperly , people seem to think that knowledge is light and some see it as mind but isn’t it more in between since the idea of “knowledge” represents true information AND having the ability to decipher and use it

That’s a good way to put it into words, thanks. Yeah like. Knowing Shit vs Information itself.

what's Homestuck? jk but since Andrew Hussie is god tiered in the comics how was he able to be killed by English?

Hussie is not even a God Tier, he’s just a doof who Cosplayed Kanaya once.

is it possible for Lords and Prince's to not be super edge ego freaks?

Yep. Along with the Thieves, their Ego can be a downfall- But if they have no issues with their ego and come to terms with stuff, they don’t need to really have problems regarding that.

Hello , as a follow up to my mini rant ( sorry ) about the dichotomy of light and mind , and to add to my previous thoughts I would like to bring up the discription given to light and mind players in the canon extended zodiac , light playes are called “ the universes knowledge seekers “ which shows light as relating to knowing ALL the things while mind players are called “ the universes great thinkers “ that shows mind as then aspect that schemes ALL the plans with there (individual) knowledge

Don’t apologize for anything! You know, I keep forgetting to check the Canon Aspect stuff, which I really shouldn’t.

To add a last bit of closure about the relation between Information and Light, though. Like.

Aranea.

That’s all I have to say on the matter.

HEADCANON: the reason why single player sessions are so difficult and impossible is because the concept of one God ruling over an entire universe means that god has to be all powerful to keep everything going the proper way (God was actually a player specifically a Lord of Hope who played and survived a one player session before creating their own universe through sheer belief)

I mean Dead Sessions aren’t even ‘so difficult and impossible’, they’re outright defined as a Punishment for playing SBURB a way it wasn’t intended. Would a Hope Player be able to win the game in time though? Caliborn had a lot of luck because he’s a Lord of Time, so Time is specially something that favors him.

Haha yeah Aranea the godess of exposition ^w^ , though I admit that I did ramble a bit when I was discussing the canon terminology for the aspects , As mage of light it seems to be in my nature to discuss and present all the information needed for y’all peeps .. wait is that a mage of light thing or just a light thing? ( to clarify I’m the one who’s been overly explaing my thoughts on light/mind dichotomy

I could see it more of a Light thing in general, but definitely also amplified by the Active Know Class for sure.

(I was the first light isn’t knowledge post) yea actually I think that may be the most reasonable answer to it yet, different types of knowledge, just as a seer and mage would have different types of knowledge that’s cool thanks 😎

The Circle of Light Queries is Complete! I wanted to post the “Circle of Stupidity” image but I thought it would seem a bit mean, and I didn’t intend that at all.

To putting The Light/Mind knowledge thing in D&D terms: Mind is intelligence, like knowing a tomato is a fruit. While Light is wisdom, like knowing the tomato isn't to be used in a fruit salad

I. Think you actually got that switched up. Light would be knowing Tomato is a Fruit- A True Fact, while Mind would know not to use it in a Fruit Salad- Like a decent human being would.

Which aspect would try to sell a tomato based fruit salad?

Only a Rage Player would allow such a degree of Anarchy. They’d also be the ones to enjoy Pineapple on Pizza.

I hate thinking about Princes/Bard and Pages and their aspect. They're supposed to be the opposite of their aspect, or have a deficit of it. How do you know your a Prince/Bard or Page of something, or something else of the other thing?

 A Prince of Heart may Destroy Heart, but they’re still a Heart Player. Going with the Canon Personality Quiz, for example, Heart Players tend to be heavily obsessed with the Self and Identity. A Prince or Bard of Heart will too, regardless of how they interact with their Aspect. Likewise, say, a Prince of Light, may obscure Information, Lie, make others Unlucky or Irrelevant or whatever, but they’re not going to be Void-Leaning, they’re still going to be Light Players, and that’s the biggest thing to have in mind. 

Also why is the Page exactly there? Pages, specifically, don’t lack their Aspect in the slightest- They get it served constantly.

I'm honestly really curious about pineapple pizza, like, it sounds about as good as bananas and peanut butter, but there's gotta be some appeal if people like it, besides, it's not as monstrous or strange as chocolate on pizza

Honest talk? I’ve never eaten a pineapple in my entire life, and I just say these things for the meme value.

An immature maid/sylph of light (or any light player really) would make those fun fact accounts that do not have facts or fun. All the fuckin "facts" are wrong and made up, but they refuse to believe theyre false. Example: "fun fact #124608, if you sleep with a boiled egg in your sock your spine will stop hurting"

A Maid or Sylph is a good assessment though, now that you mention, are Maids and Sylphs prone to ‘Making Things Up’ as well in general? That’s a fun take on the ‘Make’ thing.

If the goddes bastet from Egyptian myth had a god tier specifically one of the heart aspect what would she be all I know is that every sun rise bastet and ra would fight the evil serpent apep until eventually bastet killed the snake and became a protector deity of cats and innocent people.

I do not feel like I have quite enough knowledge about Egyptian Myths to answer this question respectfully, to be fair. Also it’s like 5 AM, this is the last ask I answer until the morning.

Hi there! I was wondering, could a Thief of Mind literally steal memories and information from other people's heads? Both in the sense of "copying" them for themselves, but also in the sense of erasing them from the target's head? Thanks!

I believe I’ve argued already about this in the past, talking how the Thief of Mind would be that kind of person where you say your plan and they’re like “That’s stupid”, except then they repeat the exact same thing with sliiiightly different wording and they get praised to high hell. Both Copying and leaving Nothing where there was Memories and such would work!

What do you think the difference between a mage of light and a mage of void ?

The Aspect? Some are more abstract like Blood and Breath, but Light and Void of all things is one of the most starkly complementary pairs there is. Information and Truth vs Lies and Obscurity, Relevance vs Irrelevance, Skaia vs Horrorterrors, Light vs Darkness. Curiously enough this likely means anything a Mage of Light couldn’t be able to Know may just fall under the Mage of Void’s realm of Knowledge.

Since Barzum's and Baizli's silhouette was one individual before being revealed, do you think the twins could merge to become one entity with both their masks being together?

There’s been some talk about that, if anything I like to think they may switch clothes and pretend to be each other from time to time or put the mask together on a single one of them and act weirdly, as fun as some sort of Juju mask would be, I find the concept of them merging into one to be extremely weird. That being said? It could happen. Specially if they have Hallucination-Inducing Chucklevoodoos or something like that.

Boy you sure have an attitude. Don't be like this.

:V Is this about the ‘listen pal’ thing I did? It was ironic and not quite intending to be too rough or dickish, sorry if it came across otherwise!

Prolly just Thieves of Time at work

And speaking of Thieves of Time, how topical for this next Ask!

What do you think a thief of time could do? Aside from the obvious life span stealing?

I’ve talked about them a bunch already, if you ignore the Jojokes here and there, but I wanted to respond to this one to say I think Life Span Stealing would be more the work of a Thief of Life, although I could still see a Thief of Time doing the exact same thing, since. You know. Time Spans kind of are both equally a Time and Life thing? But it’s good to know the divide. Actually you know what? The Thief of Time could be the opposite of the Thief of Life if you stretch it enough- Thief of Life Stealing someone’s Life to make them age, while the Thief of Time Steals the Time they’ve already spent, their Decay, and bring them back to their youthful years?

I always like to imagine a Thief of Time could, for example, steal someones time to react to an attack, making them incapable of dodging or otherwise taking counter measures and then use that stolen time to have more time to react to attacks.

That’s a valid take on the powers!

Would an heir of heart be the one to develop a persona, or have an idol, roleplay as them so much that they start confusing the persona/idol's character with their own? They'd need to be really careful not to lose themselves completely.

I feel both Witch and Heir of Heart could definitely be at risk of losing their Self indeed, whether it’s a persona, an Idol, or someone else, however, it’s hard to say without specific examples.

So I have a question about the know and change classes , so if they can manipulate there aspects ( to varying degrees and methods ) than can’t they basically do things like subtract it from people or make people have more , like a prince and maid ?

The difference here is Versatility vs Impact- As ‘Know and Change’, generally speaking? Yeah, you could say, for example, that Jade, the Witch of Space, can shrink someone and consider that ‘taking Space away’ from someone, which then a Rogue or Thief of Space could also potentially do- But while they’re more versatile and able to do more stuff, the sheer strength behind the Destroy and Make Classes make them more intense in their effect. Feferi, the Witch of Life, could heal the Mayor’s grave wounds, but Jane, the Maid of Life, can straight-up resurrect herself and other people.

which thief is most likely to steal negative emotions from others?

A Thief of Heart would be able to, merely because of them stealing Emotions in general, so they could selectively choose the bad ones, buuuut… Rage may be a better candidate if you’re only focusing on Negative Emotions.

Opinions on Fandomstuck?

I don’t know much about it! Just a few of the designs honestly, I think it’s cute personifying Fandoms in general though and pairing them together based on their general interactions.

Don’t listen to the attitude anon, you are literally the nicest HS theorist I’ve come across and I’ve been on all of them

Heavily doubtful! I do know a few other Theorists and honestly they’re all so nice and sweet. I wasn’t going to lose any sleep about that comment though, but thank you very much! :D

I find it interesting that there seems to be a lot room for interpretations when it comes to the characters use of their aspects and classes. Vriska interpreted her light aspect as fortune and was able to steal that, even though light is also seen other things in Homestuck. Maybe it just comes down to each individual?

Exactly, @revolutionaryduelist defines the Classpect System as ‘Hyperflexible’, along with the way SBURB allows customization through Alchemy and gives personalized quests, everything is basically tailored to allow for anyone to basically do whatever they want. Even two people with the same Classpect would have different personality traits and use their powers in different ways, which is why I can usually not answer to extremely specific personality questions, or why questions about powers usually have overlapping Classpects. It all depends on how people Do stuff and Interpret it.

This isn’t even just speculation, either, both Calliope talking about Classpects, and Hussie in his Formspring + Tumblr Days, speak about tendencies and leanings rather than hard, set-in-stone facts, there’s a huge degree of flexibility. This is both a blessing for the Fandom to come up with the craziest of stuff, and a curse as we don’t have a closed set of parameters or limits so we can just speculate about what may or may not be possible.

What if "Not Vriska" is Mindfang and Summoner's non-ecto descendant? (Well, at least the one who got most of her DNA from them.) After all, the Alternia timeline in game is "some time passed after the Summoner rebelion".

… You know, for some reason I had not even considered the fact that it’s actually not hard to imagine that some of the Ancestors, specially the Higher Bloods, did do the do at some/various points in their lives. That’d be an interesting thing to see if it’s brought up in Hiveswap.

So if witch is the manipulator and maid is the creator, does that mean a maid can manipulate what she created or does she only create?

I mean. Depends? A Witch’s ‘Manipulation’ comes from the fact they can Change stuff so by extension, they can control certain aspects of things and their Aspect, like Jade manipulating spacial dimensions and momentum. But if you Make something usually you’ve gotta have some degree of control over it don’t you? Unless it’s the classic ‘you created something not even you can control, now it’s running wild and destroying everything’ scenario.

Hell you could define ‘Making something’ like ‘Manipulating its existence’, the line between these things is extremely blurry and confusing sometimes. It’s a case by case basis rather than something you can generalize.

what kinds of things would a Seer of Time and a Seer of Void be able to do? im trying to get more abstract/creative but having trouble. besides Light, what do you think the most powerful Seer combination is?

I’ve talked about the two I believe, a Knowledge of the Timeline and past/future vision of events, a Knowledge of the Unknown, of what’s hidden and Eldritch, respectively. Time is specially messy because, a lot, if not all the other Seer combos already allow for a degree of seeing into the Future, but it’s possible a Seer of Time would be the truest of Future Visions- Like Garnet, being able to see every single split at every given time but not having the capacity to discern much more than the vast interconnected web of events ahead.

As for the most powerful combo? It depends but I’m gonna say the Seer of Heart simply because knowing everything about someone’s innermost desires, fears, and what makes them themselves really sounds like a recipe to abuse this power and tear someone’s sense of self down.

The Cluster from SU is a Thief of Heart

The Cluster is either a Maid of Heart (Made of multiple Souls), or a Page of Heart (Having been served Souls), since they didn’t quite want to end up the way they did now, did they?

Which mage would know the most things ( like lore , information, future shenanigans )

I don’t quite thing the information a Seer or Mage has access to can be exactly quantified.

Hmm so if you can’t quantify the amount of stuff a mage can know , than can you say which mage classpect do you personally like the most and and why ?

I’m going to be biased and say the Mage of Heart just because. Leijons.

And that is all there is to say on the matter.

I'm sorry, I'm not English but I esteem you a lot. To make sure that a session is not "Void" a prototyping It's enough? Or do they all serve?

It’s okay, don’t worry! You need to Prototype every single Sprite before entry- If you do not do this, the Battlefield will never evolve to its Final Stage, either making the Black and White Kings not develop enough, or at least making it impossible for the Genesis Frog to properly develop.

Yo! I had a dream once that I took my laptop to school and put a Sburb disc into it while sitting in the cafeteria. I woke up after that but it made me really curious about what it would be like to start a Sburb session at school. You have any ideas about that?

Unless the Game only warped the section of the School you’re in at the moment you enter, chances are everyone in the school would be warped with you to the Medium, which may not be the best thing to do honestly, waaay too many people for one Land.