February 2018

why are rage players most likely to bullshat their ways through things. which classes of rage playerssm are mosty likely to do thaqat anywqays

Rage Players are the most likely to Bullshit Things because it’s one of the things Rage ties to. At least in my opinion. It’s a fun theory that checks out, I believe Tex Talks came up with it? I learned about it through revolutionaryDuelist. Basically, the Aspects make up the fabric of Homestuck’s Reality- This is a fact, Calliope tells us this. And since Homestuck is a Story, and it acknowledges itself as such with the Author and the 4th wall breaking, then it’d make sense that Aspects are also tied to things that make up a story!

Space is the Setting and Time the Pacing. Light is Plot Relevance and Void is Irrelevance. Heart is the Character’s Nature and Mind is how they Express themselves towards others. Breath is the Plot and Blood the Character Dynamics. Life is the Agency of the Characters against the Setting, and Doom the Conflict of the Setting against the Characters. And so, it leaves Hope to be Plot Coherence, and Rage to be Plot Contrivance. Rage is the most ‘Bullshit’ Aspect, because with its ties to Contrivance, is the one related to literally abusing the systems in place because of the story for their own purposes. Plot Shields, being somewhere for absolutely no reason, they break your immersion and make you just. Angry in general at what’s going on.

Eggs and Biscuits fighting over the speed of the playback of the cassette in Omelette Sandwich is just plain stupid (I mean their fight)

Oh my god is that what’s actually happening in that song.

Nah, I don't get upset over stuff like that. Everyone can have their own opinion on this stuff. I just like starting silly fights. So fight me in the pit, coward

>:V I’m half relieved because yes, that’s a good attitude to fight, but also half disappointed because I was ready to throw down here.

Maybe the real Vriska were the friends we made along the way

If my friends are like Vriska, I hope they’re like (Vriska) at least.

in reality which classpects (NOT VOID) are the most dangerous threat physically

I’m going to say Space or Time. While every Aspect is part of the fabric of reality, the two concerned with the actual physical dimensions and the flow of time have the most evident impact on the physical world.

Come to my pit and we can throw down properly.

Where’s this pit.

I love how the Void symbol is just the Space symbol with less stuff in it

It’s the empty space left by the Space Spiral, rather! :p

Only Void players can find it, sorryyyy

>:/ I know where it is.

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I meant that, I just didn't know how to articluate it ...

Oh, sorry. :p

Maid of Rage would be the sort of player who came into existence as result of ridiculous paradoxal series of event that happen to be a timeloop of questionable stability. Which involved a helicopter, a terminator, a bunch of eldrich abominations, one disgrunted void player, two ocassions of soul-merging and replacement, four time-loops, one piece of bacon and an undead chicken.

This is literally the title of an Alternian Movie.

Well shit. Uhhhhh LOOK OVER THERE ITS PROBABLY VRISKA!!! *Books it*

And so one of the silliest strings of Asks in the entirety of Paradox Space came to an end.

Would a Maid of Void be similar power-wise to a Thief of Light?

Not a 1-1 match, but they would overlap in a bunch of things.

a lot of voidy questions today. void pals unite!

That’s true, I didn’t quite realize! Hmm.

You guys’ puns are out of control today.

which troll blood color is your favorite/is the most interesting to you?

Olive. No doubt about it.

Heir of Hope: comes to any land with angels. Angels: swarm the heir while whispering affectionately until it is just a giant ball of feather-snakes.

And thus the Heir is Consumed by Hope as they embody Abraxas.

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Some player weaponises their Maid of Void's voidy aura ability by throwing them at majjiick-using enemies. The maid is ridicuosly hard to harm anyway, for some reason.

Dont! Bully! Your! Maids!!! You will regret it if you use your Maids as Human Bullets.

Could a fully realized Page of Hope defeat a Lord of Hope in a 1 on 1 duel

Arguably, noooo, but it’d also heavily depend on the Page and the Lord specifically? Some Pages may be more powerful and some Lords wimpier. But if they’re the same sort of level, and it’s a straight up 1 v 1 with no involvement of anyone else and no tricks up anyone’s sleeve, the Lord should technically come up on top.

have you ever talked about a Bard of Heart?

Yes.

Where are aspect descriptions/ class descriptions? I'm on mobile.

Class/Aspect

Is it possible to have 2 dream selves even if you're not a captor?

I don’t even think Sollux had that good of a reason to have two. Just because Duality is his schtick. So. I guess only if it sorta makes sense to have two?

Fan aspect idea: null. Similar to void, but instead of the lack of things, it's things that never existed (and ever will exist) in the first place! Symbol would be void overlayed on space.

That’s a strange thing, if something has never existed and will never exist, then is it truly anything at all?

What does it mean when it says the regular zodiacs are the true zodiacs on the extended zodiac? What effect does thus have on the other new zodiacs of the same blood types? I said zodiac a whole lot there.

The Extended Zodiac is something based on our perception of the comic and the fact we, as Humans, have a Zodiac. To the Trolls, ‘True Libra’ is likely just ‘Libra’, but since we, the audience, have overlap with those symbols, they become more important. Hell, Troll Society has more Symbols than the ones we know about, so these are mostly just for Fandom Reference.

However, one thing is true, and that is that the ‘True Signs’ names are used to build the rest of the Symbols’ names, based on Caste and Aspect. This has led me to speculate that whole Castes are Bound to their Aspect. While every individual has an Aspect they relate to, their whole Caste is Stereotyped and Shoved into specific Aspects. This means the more oppressed will have their True Natures sort of unhealthily repressed by Caste Stereotyping and Expectations, while specific individuals whose true Aspect matches that of their Caste’s, will have a bigger impact on society.

Null fan aspect symbol

I dig the look. This reminds me of this thing I made for a friend’s Sprite Squared that mixed a Time and a Void God Tier, let me fetch it…

Equius should've been a maid of void

Instead, he was just a Maid.

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So I feel the Heart aspect really intimately like i just feel it like its so personal? But I am Breath and breath is just so me in every way, but i cant deny all the heart things in me so i was wondering, can i feel two aspects as much? Or one almost as much as the other? I feel like i couldnt give up one without losing a side of me so /:

You’re a Human, not a Stereotype of a Single Aspect, it’s normal to feel a pull for more than one of 12 things.

I think i might make a blog for aspect mixes. I'll tell you when I get it up

Good luck!

to all people reading this, what fan aspects do you know of? id personally love to see more :D

I remember seeing the Faith Aspect used a bunch and things like Strength and the like.

I personally don’t headcanon any Fan Aspect, but I once did this project thing where I divided every Aspect into sub-Aspects- Which… Is sincerely very old and may be missing a lot of stuff I know about Aspects now. But. Here. Any further suggestions, reblog or say them on this post!

equius is maid of milk

*Sweats*

Yo! I made the blog! @aspect-fusions-homestuck

Nice.

which god tier would be like the scene towards the end of the Princess and the Frog where all the spirits take the witchdoctor into the "other side"? i see Heart or Rage players doing that but idk what classes

I have no idea, I haven’t even watched the Princess and the Frog but I know the scene, it seems afterlife-ish so Heart or Doom would be good choices? Shrug.

homestuck true afterlife is just a field filled with horses

I’m certain this is canon.

So I think you've touched upon this in the past, but thoughts on if its possible or should be possible to have Fraymotifs with multiple of the same aspect. Like, Heart + Heart + Mind with two different players who have the Heart aspect teaming up with another player, Mind in this example, to have a Heart-Dominent Fraymotif. Or should it be limited to 1 player of X aspect allowed per Fraymotif?

I assume you could have multiple of the Same Aspect if you actually had multiple of the same Aspect in one same Session.

Is Boldir male or female?

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We need more aspect combination symbols

It was already H e l l coming up with the ones I did, but please feel free to torture yourself like that if you’d want.

OH WAIT Aspect Combination, not Division.
Wow you can tell I’ve just woken up huh.

A Page of Doom who can manifest their own little minion - something akin to an Alternian version of Smokey the Bear but with a wider purview then just forest fires - who gives them all sorts of advice. Tips on things to avoid, how to make situations worse; being served by Doom.

“ something akin to an Alternian version of Smokey the Bear “ This is the best thing I’ve read today and I love the Page of Doom and their nagging advice mini-

IT’S CLIPPY ISN’T IT?

Was Jack Noir specific to the timelines/universes in Homestuck's sburb session? Or is he a universal sburb constant?

The Agents seem to be a SBURB Constant. In fact if the Troll Session is anything to go by, how they had to keep the Ring and exile Jack, it’d seem he’s prone to actually trying to kill the Queen and getting her Ring.

Do you think the reason that Jane can only resurrect once is because otherwise she'd be op (overpowered) ??

It’d make the Judgement Clock and ‘conditional immortality’ lose their meaning, being able to bring back anyone, any time, is not exactly the most balanced power.

So what’re your thoughts on this interpretation of Mage of Time: they Know all the other timelines, like share memories with all the other versions of them (which also checks the whole “suffer from their aspect” box that comes with the mage). They probably tend to have a hard time sorting out what happened in their timeline vs what happened in others. Is this veering into heart too much or?

I’ve never personally enjoyed the thought that Mages ‘suffer from their Aspect’, that’s just kind of a bit mean when everyone suffers a lot for various reasons. It does veer a bit into Heart but not so much that it’d be implausible, however do remember- We’re explicitly told in canon that all the versions of yourself together make a sort of ‘Ultimate Self’, and bearing down the memories and feelings of all of them at once would be unbearable for a normal person. Sprites Squared are mentioned to be able to handle this.

how would it affect a player to roleplay as the active/passive opposite of their class, ex. a witch roleplaying as an heir or a bard roleplaying as a prince?

Depends- For Classes like the Witch or the Seer, and even a bit the Rogue and Page, they have more ease switching between Passive and Active. Princes and Maids have a harder time- The more ‘versatile’ a Class is, the easier it is to flip between a passive and active role, so a Witch acting like a Heir would be much more healthy than a Maid trying to be a Sylph. Still though, holding back your true desires and repressing more selfish or selfless impulses may still be damaging in the long run.

Could a knight try to imitate another class because they think their own capabilities are useless? If so what aspect is most likely to do this?

Usually Roleplay is not conscious and happens because of admiration or emulation of figures in their life. Or corruption, but that’s another thing entirely.

Which void player would be the most self-centered? I'm thinking witch

I’d say a Maid or a Witch yeah. Although a really cocky Prince would as well.

I feel mildly contentious today, I’ve been seeing just a few bad analysis of stuff and heard about some people, so here’s what I’m gonna do:

Can you all send me what Questions were left unanswered for you towards the End of Homestuck, and what complaints you have about the Ending or have heard about the Ending of Homestuck? Or just general complaints about Homestuck. I will gather all of them in a big post and try to talk about it in-depth when I get a bunch of them.

There are already multiple means of resurection can be found everywhere.

Sprites (Which are Limited and tend to bring Amalgamations to life that are considered secondary), and the Ring (A unique Juju) are the only means of resurrection I can think of, outside of God Tier resurrection, post-Ascension.

Have you done anything for knight of mind, I hope it isn't too much of a bother to link some posts if you have?

Yep.

Would something about the hs fandom count? I certainly understood far less about homestuck a couple of years ago but the popular inversion theory was always especially confusing, especially when people brought up class inversion. I caught myself thinking: how does every instance of someone's true feelings being repressed become a complete inversion?

I mean not really what I’m looking for the post specifically but this is a very interesting take, and indeed it’s exactly why I like the Roleplay Theory more- Because it’s not just an arbitrary Inversion of Class and/or Aspect, rather it’s an emulation of figures in the characters’ lives or being forced to act a way they’re not happy with. It was still a good stepping stone, though, to see the flexibility in the Classpect System.

Hello there! It might be a little tirering and I'm sorry, but I was wondering if you had a meta about Rogue of Time? Thank you for your patience, I really love the theories you're exposing, that's really interesting!

Danke! And I’ve talked about the Rogue before, too. Also there’s overlap with the Thief, which I’ve also talked about. Do remember, if you’re able to, there’s the Search Function on my blog you can use! I tag all my Posts about Classes and Aspects so you can kind of write “Rogue” and “Time” and every post with Rogue and Time mentions will pop up. Same with just about any other topic.

Prince of time, sylph of space, maid of rage, and seer of Doom = successful session?

There’s no combination that results in an instant win. It’s the same as saying, “There’s clouds in the sky, so tomorrow it’s going to rain.”

is the level of awareness a dream self has directly linked to a player's aspect?

It’s likely Dirk was able to be awake at the ‘same time’ because he’s a Heart Player, yes, and Space Players do wake up early it’d seem. However, it may be more of a personal thing and maybe not all Heart Players would be able to do that.

Yo, to that anon want aspect combinations a while back, I have a blog for that. @aspect-fusions-homestuck

Pretty sure your blog is what enticed them to say that! :p