February 2018

I'll report you for making me see that with my own two eyes

It’s too late for us already.

what kind of person do you think a Maid of Hope would be? I have a character that I dubbed a Maid of Hope, probably at least a year or more ago now, I am gonna read the Maid page you have after sending this so I have a better idea of the class, I just wanted to get your opinion on the title and what it could entail

I could see them being quite hopeful but struggling with a crisis of faith or someone mocking them for their dreams early on. Creating what they believe in, accomplishing what they dream of doing, making everyone more optimistic and hopeful, they’d be a beacon of Hope in the Session. Curiously enough, the Maid of Hope would be a quite literal embodiment of the expression “Make Believe”

Fraymotif for a mage of breath: accelerandic flurry. The user becomes a blur, laying a multitude of rapidfire strikes while getting a massive dodge boost

Oh yeah that’s a thing, I forgot that Fraymotifs also don’t need to be Combo Attacks, each Player gets at least three individual Fraymotifs.

hope isnt just faith - its positive emotions, justice, motivation, strength of will and also about selfishness, narcissism, black and white thinking. you dont need to be a huge fan of movies to be a good hero of hope, or be religious. and you dont need to be a bard to be a jerk. a maid can be one too.

Ya. This can be applied to every single Aspect, and I also think you’re mixing some Hope traits with stuff that comes from their Classes rather than what Hope truly means. And everyone can be nice or a jerk, there’s not any Class that is inherently Good or Bad, not even the Master Classes.

But if I went in-depth about literally every tiny minutia about the Classpect combos, I would need a day for every answer I give. I just tend to mention what comes to me at the moment, and then add upon the ones I’m not too satisfied with later down the line.

Is it possible for a Heir of Hope to have acted very much like a Rage player until the defining moments came? If not, how do you think a Heir of Hope would act like then?

Class and Aspect refer to the behavior that comes most comfortably to you, naturally, when you’re the happiest, and not being being held back or manipulated, or trying to be something you’re not. Complementary Aspects, also, are closely tied together. So if you see the ‘inheritance’ so to say to be the moment they free themselves from whatever was holding them back, then sure.

how would you characterize a Maid of Light and/or a Sylph a Light? And how would being a Prospit dreamer vs being a Derse dreamer change both classpects?

Characterizing a Classpect without knowing a bit more about their specific situation tends to be kind of a futile task. Prospit/Derse Dreaming, though, seems to lightly affect the Passive/Active leaning of the Players’ personalities? But even then it’s not that big of a deciding factor and is almost arbitrary at times, Hussie leaves it extremely vague as to what, if anything, determines the Prospit/Derse Divide and the full extent of how it affects the Players.

I am trying to asign sins to classes. So far I have Pride/Wrath for Prince, Sloth for Page and Bard. Envy, Gluttony, Greed and Pride for Thief. Rogue has Sloth and Envy. Knight gets Pride and Envy. Heir/Witch is Lust. but I am not sure what else can be said. Oh, and pride for seers and mages.

Thief is most definitely Gluttony, as we’ve talked about before, Thief is the Vore Class after all. Not much to say about this though, I feel you could assign every Sign to every Class.

What if undead and pestilence are both life and doom?

I mean, they kind of really do tie to both, the divide is extremely hard to make.

Can a Hope player have a character development crisis in the form of realisation that their actions or beliefs caused harm? Like Maid of Hope realising that their created elementals were sentient and not disposable. Or Heir that they pushed others into mindsets that were harmful for them. Or Prince who realises that their sour scepticism and that their need to crash the naive and foolish dreams for their own good was not good at all.

Yep.

I have this weird hc where Green Sun has its time working in a weird way. Like, when you enter it (somehow) you can m8ve towards or out its center. Hovewer changing the direction results in you moving between states of green sun. That way you can travel to any point of its existence. However if you are uncareful (there is close to no way of telling at which point are you going to end), you might arive to the point of its death. And there is no 'before' to which you can return s7nce time is dead.

I mean, if we go by Canon, the Green Sun actually being a physical thing in the Furthest Ring, if anything, kind of acts like an Euclidean Anchor- It gives the Furthest Ring a sense of Time and Space, much like the cracks do.

Why are the Green Suns power space based instead of actual reality warping, like Doc implied? And how does it exist before it was created to give Doc his powers and will those powers ever go away?

The Time in the Furthest Ring is weird, the Green Sun has always existed, but the Tumor was the thing that created it. It’s just that the further into the inky blackness of the Furthest Ring the Derse Moon went, the earlier in the Timeline of the Furthest Ring it went, with the detonation happening, arguably, at the beginning of everything.

Also, Space Powers are pretty reality-warping by themselves, being able to manipulate everything regarding Physical Space is. Nigh God-like.

Was the condense that invaded the alpha timeline earth the one that escaped from the beta timeline?

It’s heavily implied, but since we don’t exactly know what method Condy used to hop back and forth between Universes and Universe Iterations, it’s not explicitly stated.

But if the Sun always existed than it will also always exist, right? But then why did LEs eyes going all 8ball indicate that that power source was cut off? Was it because he was also in the furthest ring?

The Cracks in Paradox Space stabilize the flow of reality in the Furthest Ring. The Green Sun has always been there, but much like how there was an event that Created it, there’s also an event that Destroys it. And given the state of everything leading up to the opening of the Breach, there’s nothing ‘after’ the Great Undoing, because Space and Time aren’t weird anymore- There’s no way to go back to the point before the Collapse, and the Rapture is still taking place. It’s truly The End.

Why is the Condesce so sexy?

Given Undyne a few years back, and the precedent set by Prince Sidon in Breath of the Wild, and the monster from the Shape of the Water, it’d seem we’re all, simply, fish fuckers.

Doesn't that mean the epilogue will just be depressing blackness because the black hole killed everything?

The Black Hole is consuming the Furthest Ring. Which was very much the Afterlife of Homestuck. Ghosts trapped there, sent on suicidal missions to lure the Big Bad, spending Aeons unable to properly drop grudges or develop properly. The reason why I don’t think the destroying of Paradox Space is necessarily bad, is because the Stagnation of the Ghosts and trying to keep doing the same things for aeons seems more like torture. Perhaps they can move on now that everything is dying around them.

The status of Universe C is something I’d like to know, though- The Kids are escaping Lord English’ influence, the Alpha Timeline, it’s very fitting for a Gnostic Story, they’re leaving the Cruel Reality they were trapped in by Yaldabaoth, and ascending to the World of Ideas- Lit by the literal Light Symbol, where they are the Gods of the World. However, that’s symbolically. Is the Universe just far away enough that it’d take an eternity for the Black Hole to reach it? Is it so far that it is still affected by the weird flow of Time and Space in the Furthest Ring, and as such has more time? Is there something left after the Black Hole drags reality into it? There’s a lot of things the Epilogue could touch upon, and I want to see how the Kids fare in their reality.

Are you a fish fucker too?

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Jade had bec, rose had jasper, dave had lil cal. Who was john's guide? The harliquine dolls?

Guide in what sense exactly? If we’re going by First Prototypings, Dave had the Crow to begin with. But I’m not quite sure that’s what you mean by ‘Guides’.

Hm, actually ... if we go by the black hole that Caliborns black kernelsprite turned into, which the Alt!Caliopes kernelsprite very much mirrors, like everything those two do, then maybe it'll just transport them somewhere.

It is possible it leads somewhere, for all we know Lord English and Vriska were thrown into the Problem Sleuth Universe honestly. I’d like to think that one is a proper, just. Matter-crushing Black Hole.

I think on the 'Sexiness to Craziness' scala, HIC is a little bit way too far off to the left. Don't stick your dick in semi-immortal uber powerful galaxy conquering space fish women

I feel like this is an appropriate song to this sudden Sexy Crazy Condy talk.

I honestly doubt the blackhole will suck everything or stay there forever. If the Green Sun can be stopped, so can the black hole.

I mean, a Green-Sun-Powered Black Hole still sounds like it’d be powerful enough to devastate reality, but who knows.

Random speculation: Once black hole consumes all the reality, it collapses into the new one.

The idea of it creating a new Reality certainly is a common one.

Honestly I'm to 99% sure it'll just absorb everything and then collapse back into the same universe, where everything then repeats again and nauseam.

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Wakraya?

Yes?

But... how can a multiverse that is infinite and vast get sucked into just one tiny black hole?

I’m pretty sure the Black Hole is Supermassive, rather than tiny. Remember that the Green Sun was twice the Mass of the Universe and still SOMEHOW didn’t collapse into a Black Hole- The Breach has absorbed the Green Sun and is tearing the Furthest Ring apart which is arguably only adding more mass to it. I don’t know but, a Black Hole over twice the mass of the entire Universe sounds like the kind of thing that could rip reality at the seams completely and absolutely.

Stupid Fraymotif: Blood + Heart + Mind + Time = Legato Concussio. Time traps somebody in a repeating, short and stable time loop of them being attuned via all possible ways to just repeatedly want to slap and or hit themself. Mind makes them remember it all through every reset of the Loop. For added effect, provide complementary "Why are you hitting yourself?" 's just to be extra awful.

Oh my god. “Why are you hitting yourself Fraymotif” is exactly what I needed today.

Considering how infinity divided by over double the mass of a universe plus extra mass by it sucking in reality around it is STILL infinity, the damage calliope's Breach can cause is quite controlled and reserved actually. It could go on forever at its best and do jack diddly squat. All it'll really do from any observable point of view is trap LE and his Alpha Timeline bending BS in Super Ultra Gay Baby Jail forever and, like Aradia said, do a bit of cleaning up with the Dreambubbles and Ghosts.

That is true, also I love calling the Black Hole “Gay Baby Jail”, but I do wonder, if it doesn’t destroy everything, what effects it being there would have on. Just like. New SBURB Sessions appearing, and the Horrorterrors- That’s another thing, the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors is liiiikely very dead now, if they weren’t dead already. I wonder how Universe Creation will be affected now that First Guardians don’t have First Guardian powers anymore, too.

How I'd like to interperate the Breach's destiny is that its just a new phase of the Green Sun that'll be a new anchor in its place for Paradox Space everywhere and whenever, it'll eventually probably collapse on itself once its full of Reality Stuff and make some newer, slightly bigger Green Sun like entity through which First Guardians will then draw power from. And that'll probably be it, forever. More or less, the Breach is kinda the Green Sun's way of distancing itself from its true origin.

Hmm! That could be a cool thing. God please Hussie I need that Epilogue.

I mean there’s also the chance we DON’T see what happens with the Black Hole in the Epilogue and it’s, once more, left up to our imagination.

um won't the expanding black hole reach the Genesis Frog eventually?

That’s what I was wondering too, and why all this talk has given me a Sudden Craving for Epilogue.

Wait, do you do fraymotifs too?

Not really, I just suggest silly things and let people submit some from time to time, but it’s nothing too specific.

HC: The black hole itself is a dreambubble powered by the Green Sun, eventually it'll suck in the Genesis Frog who will remain mostly unharmed albeit a few cracks in the universe but LE is now free to terrorize the frog

“LE is now free to terrorize the frog” I know what you mean, and yet I cannot help but imagine LE just being kind of far away trying to drag himself from the event horizon, and trying to scare the Genesis Frog like Eustace scares Courage.

how about when/if the black hole collapses it becomes an LE powered Green Sun, his whispers can be heard echoing across Paradox Space, influencing sessions with his slight murmurs and the occasional vast Honk. Oh and whenever you pass by the new sun you become slightly less lucky and relevant cuz Vriska somehow managed to still be a dick despite being combined into a star

Hah, interesting. And much like the previous ask, I can just imagine passing by and hearing Caliborn’s voice like. “HEY. HEY FUCK YOU. COME ON DON’T IGNORE ME! YOU SUCK!”

Hey, if you really think about it, the Breach could even be considered its own special kind of Scratch. Calliope provided a signal to the latent energy of the Green Sun to start a huge event that does a really important Thing in P.S.. All she did was essentially turn herself into a big garbage disposal & eat the Green Sun, instead of sending energy to Skaia to do the deed, & instead of changing the Unfavorable Conditions, it just makes 'em Cease to be. P.S. once again accounts for everything.

A hard reset. Hmm.

The green sub didn't get destroyed by the black hole, it just got sucked in and reformed intona codpiece

I SWEAR TO GOD.

Opinions on New Trolls?

I’m sad Digger Troll wasn’t cute Frog Girl Troll but I love them.

Also Troll Jewish!

Why so many codpieces?!? Heyo, I was wondering if for the consists of the lands, do they have to be reptilian in nature? Because I kinda want to see a land where the consorts are birds.

I have no idea why, it just keeps happening. As for the Consorts, they’re not all Reptilian- They are Herptiles! That is, Reptilians and Amphibians.

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Given Abraxas’ association with Snakes and Amphibians, it’s likely the Consorts were chosen like that. Buuuut. Abraxas also has the head of a rooster in traditional depictions so. A Bird may work too?

we already knew the digger troll wasnt going to be a cute frog girl for several months when the leaks came out. idk why you’re surprised

Okay, first of all, I already knew because of the leak but I still was asked my opinion so I gave it? And, second, um, rude? What about people who haven’t looked at the leak? And that dismissive attitude? Bad anon. *Baps with a newspaper*

Wait troll leaks?? Where do i find them??? :0 This is news to me!

I’m not going to post them just in case, but maybe going down “Troll Call Leaks” on the tags could work? Basically, when Daraya was revealed, the entire middle block of the Troll Call was leaked too. (Or was it intentional? We may never know). Whichever the case, the Trolls weren’t named in the leak, and some have different poses- Like, Fozzer was smiling and didn’t have his shovel. He was also called Digger.

May I hug you?

*Hugs first!*

Do yoy have any rhyme or reason, or even just headcanon advice, about how consorts are decided?

Nope! Hell I don’t even know if the Consorts we’ve seen can have different colors. Go wild.

>:0c *hugs back!*

>:3

Stupid Fraymotif: Void + Light = Crescendo Nightbright. Turn one thing into the darkest Dark and the other into the brightest Light in all of Pradox space, then put them side by side. This does nothing significant otherwise.

It annoys Anish Kapoor at least.

I know you said no more cod peice stuff, but I just felt compelled to do this

Okay, I cannot be mad at cute Fantroll Fanart, not even if it’s Codpieces.

What if someone prototypes their dreamself along with someone else's dreamself, and God tiers? The other person prototyped themself as their sprite along with a clone of themself, then the other person Godtiers.

I’ve answered this exact question like, yesterday. Please do check the tags before asking me stuff. I mentioned how only one of them would be allowed to go God Tier, likely. I don’t quite understand the second part of this ask though, sorry!

Hey do you have any sprite or alchemizer fusions you'd like to see drawn? Cause I might do that. If not, that's fine too I'm just having a creative block so I need ideas. ( @ace-sketch )

I sadly don’t have many ideas, but you could check the list of items in the Overseer Project!

{Sketch} What's the overseer project?

It’s a SBURB Simulator Game that started a while ago. It’s now abandoned for the Overseer 2, which is the upgrade, but is still getting to the level of the original.

{Sketch} Where can I find it?

I used to go and there were some google docs going around with weird item combinations, no idea. Google it I suppose? It should still be around.

{Sketch} what about two homestuck characters to draw as a sprite together?

Neproxy.

{Sketch} OKAY SO I LOOKED UP NEPETA FOR A REFERENCE, AND ITS A PLANT CALLED CATMINT

Nepeta Cataria, Catnip.

Do you give lands to people?

I can’t even give myself a Land, buddy. Actually I can’t say that, I’ve been thinking about my Land a bit lately and I have some ideas. But I’m still bad.

Fraymotif Suggestions: Rage + Doom + Time + Mind + Space = Rallentando Eternia. The fraymotif equivilant to an Endless Hallway dream that you dont wake up from, but is also very much Real and Creepy. Accompanied by eerie music, paintings with following eyes and an alarming sense of dread.

I’m pretty sure this is an SCP.