https://homestuckexamination.tumblr.com/post/168160703234/homestuck-mythological-class-quiz
Yep, that definitely sounds like a Prince of Time’s thing.
The Wiz?
Both.
On the Quiz link like, 5 posts beneath this.
WhatPumpkin are cowards, Vegeta is already a 6-letter name.
This Trollcall definitely woke up the overlap between the Dragon Ball and the Homestuck Fandom.
Then again.
Homestuck already had plenty of Dragon Ball references huh.
I still think one could be hidden because of the perspective.
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Interesting.
I don’t even know half of the US States.
Thief of Light.
Not really, Frogs is related to Space as a necessary Game Mechanic, but other than that the rest of the Lands relate specifically to a mixture of the Classpects and the Individuals, making all of them unique.
Not exactly a theory, but the idea that Hussie made the ending to ‘just get it over with’ and is not contributing to Hiveswap in any way, shape of form is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard being spread around.
He’d stab you for saying that and you know it. Curious that Jack was possessed by Lord English, and then Slick took over the Leprechauns.
It’s a way to see it, specially with Homestuck’s Gnostic Overtones. To Create a World you must first Destroy one.
It’s weird, Rage has to do with tearing down lies so you would think Hope is about those lies- Yet, we know that when you really believe in something, it becomes slightly less fake. So while Hope touches imaginary topics, when you truly believe in something, there’s no such thing as fakeness.
Well their personalities would be different as a result of this, too, so like, it’d be an entirely different story, like a Bloodswap.
Oooh, nice.
Without the destruction/change Classes, I don’t think they have much to do with that. But Rage kind of is about tearing down false Faiths, sooo, they’d have to be really obsessively convinced.
Huh, an interesting equivalence.
WAIT.
Three sticks on the eye.
Three horns.
3x3 = 9.
9K. Over 9000.
The thing about Master Classes- And some other Classes as well, I feel that you all are trying to cheat the system by forcing things to be because you fake-believe in them. If the belief is genuine, it could happen, and with the Master Classes specifically, I feel as though the Aspect is. Retroactively shaped. It’s not a thing that, whoops, suddenly it’s like that- Rather it’s always been like that, but it’s always been like that because at one point the Lord of X or the Muse of X influenced it to have always been like that.
More a Hope Player, Light is more about actual Truth rather than Belief, Factual Information.
That’s a good way to look at it, yes.
Oof, dwelling into self-deprecation for certain Classpects may indeed be quite bad.
Maids seem to be more Rigid? Where Witches and Heirs are at the risk of being changed, Maids seem to be more Oppressed than Changed.
I’m pretty sure anyone can feel sad. And I mean, John’s depressed at the end of the Credits, soooo.
A big part of the Characters leading up to the ending, is their Nostalgia for simpler times, and their Expectations of what comes next. Kanaya knew she would be raising the next generations of Trolls, and Rose tagged along. Roxy has Callie with her and Janey to keep her company and chill as the Queen of the Carapace Kingdom. Karkat and Dave are together and go out on adventures with Jade, who may or may not also be together with them- This ties into Dave’s interest on digging up dead things, except instead he’s digging up liberties. Dirk and Jake do robotics together and spar and may also be together- On top of that, Jake has Skaianet, just as Jane has Crockercorp. Everyone has someone or a group of people they hang out with regularly, do stuff together, or at the very least, have some job to look forward to.
John, however, never expressed wanting anything after the Game was done. His biggest wish was for to fight until the end and make sure his friends were alright and… He got that wish. Even Terezi, who didn’t get a happy ending, is at least actively looking back for Vriska, searching for her for Years in the Collapsing Remnants of Paradox Space. She’s driven with a purpose.
John is not. He has nothing to do. He hasn’t expressed any wishes of what to do next. His actual Dad is gone, as much as Jane’s may look like him the Credits tells us he misses HIS Dad. He doesn’t do any King-like stuff in the Human Kingdom, in his house, without the drive to even get up to take down the Birthday Decoration from two years ago.
By the end of the comic, the Protagonist has finally gotten past the story- And so now, his purpose, which was to reach the end of it, has been fulfilled, and he’s left not knowing what to do next.
Hmm, that ties well with the Canon Quiz’s questions.
Jade may have two hands, but if her Jadebot dreaming up extra arms is anything to go by, I would say she could most certainly be with Karkat, Dave AND Davepeta as well.
I mean, is a Poly Relationship with the three just being happy together, perhaps the four of them, perhaps more, ‘heteronormativity’? Genuine question. Jade being with them doesn’t invalidate the two of them being together, and Dave and Karkat are most definitely Bi/Pan.
I still think the Heir/Witch of mind could be very persuasive indeed.
One of Karkat’s big struggles with Quadrants is that he struggles with them in the same way people struggle with Queerness- Except instead of being orientation-related, it’s about the different kinds of Romance. When he is with Dave, he does transcend Quadrants just like the Signless- Because their relationship is a Human Relationship. The ambiguity of their Quadrant mentioned by Vriska and the fact Dave himself doesn’t really get Quadrants too much are big hints towards the fact they’re together, not as Matesprits, not as anything other, than the repulsive and alien emotion of Human Love. Now adding a Poly Human Relationship on top of this is an entirely different can of worms, because he wouldn’t be obsessively switching Quadrants or planning things, he’d just Love two people.
Not to say, are you trying to imply Karkat wanting Terezi in all Quadrants was at all healthy? Because that and Dave’s relationship with him most definitely have little in common.
Yeah it’s not necessarily a sacrifice, and it also depends on the person and how… Good/bad Heirs they may actually be? Not like, actually alignment but like, successful or failed Heirs may experience this Inheritance in different ways, even with the same Classpect.
I mean, honestly it could be? Yeah, and of course it’s not inherently unhealthy at all, but also it could not be- This is a Future Karkat vs Past Karkat conversation, they throw jabs at each other, bring out the worse of each other. Exclusivity could mean Monogamy as much as it could mean Obsession, and growing beyond Obsession MAY as well be growing beyond Monogamy, which is not necessary, but not unrealistic either. I’m not saying there’s definitive proof about Karkat, Dave and Jade being together, but like. You could absolutely read it that way and there’s nothing wrong about it. Same way you can read Karkat’s crush on Terezi as proof of his monogamy and have him be with Dave and just be chill friends with Jade.
I mean, between other pairs like Red and Pale or even Red and Black could definitely be, but Ashen seems like a Quadrant that’s not specifically exclusive? It’s making sure two other people don’t like, fuck each other up, so you could be Red with someone, but also be their Auspistice between them and their Kismesis.
I saw! They’re also talking how Olive and Blood fading together in the last Troll Call card makes lime, which is getting people really suspicious of what’s going on.
Princes, Thieves and Lords aren’t assholes, generalizing them as such would be harmful- However, they’re Classes that can fall prey of their Egos and self-aggrandizing behaviors quite easily. Everyone can be an asshole, and not everyone HAS to be an asshole.
She really has, poor thing deserves hugs and a punk cerulean girlfriend.
That is true, but also like, inherently, the huge amount of power put into an active, selfish Class, makes for an easily abusable recipe. So it’s an expected perception? Albeit untrue since it’s still generalizing.
“Greater Good” type scenarios. Being selfish is as far away from the Muse’s Nature as can be, but altruistic tendencies often times come off as Selfish. If they’re convinced about a false idea, or consider a chain of events would be more benefitial to something they’re rallying behind, they could be as ruthless as Lords.
I feel the Bard? Maybe?
I mean, yeah but even shitty shows of a Class tell us a LOT about said Class, such as most of the Dancestors. Knowing about their powers as well sheds a lot of light on the Class itself. We barely know anything about ANY of the Classes, but we can definitely infer through context clues, comparisons and examples given to us by the text.
I mean what Aspects were we wrong about exactly? Because the Canon Aspect Descriptions have only reinforced stuff we knew, clarified a few dubious points, and added upon the most accepted theories.
Yeah of course she did- But also Bec Noir was already in their Session, fucking up the Planets and heading for the Genesis Frog. All Vriska would have done by NOT being a meddlesome 8astard is create a Doomed Timeline. If the Kids merely won, there wouldn’t be a Scratch, and without a Scratch there would’ve not been an Alpha Session, which in turn would mean no Alpha Kids. Which means no interaction for Calliope and Caliborn, if they even existed in the new Universe made by the Beta Session, and it would also mean no origin for the title of Lord English, no battle in the Masterpiece, no ARquius to get absorbed into Lil Cal, and no Black Hole bringing the Juju Breaker to Caliborn. They required to fail the Session and Scratch it for it to be the Alpha Timeline, and not end up doomed and dead.
We sort of did, though? The Class and Aspect in conjunction said a lot about the characters and their predispositions. The Quiz gave a clearer sort of view about this but it wasn’t also anything necessarily game-changing, just clarifying.
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I mean, every Psionic we have seen so far has had different eye colors! If anything Cyan may relate to the fact he’s Mindbound? We don’t quite know how relevant the Eye Colors are, if they’re relevant at all. Except the black, that is, Folykl is most likely blind.
I’m gonna go with Jade, post 3-Years.
Yep she did! Her sense of duty and MAIL DELIVERY is stronger than her devotion for Jade! At least enough to punch her, she would still never like. Stab her.
That is true, that’s why she wasn’t part of the Hair Contest, it’d be too unfair.