During Game Over when Condy murdered the fuck out of Aranea, do you think she was pissed because her plans were mucked up, Jane and Jade got killed or both?
I feel she knew someone was messing with the Timeline, like, beyond the absolute disaster of a chain of events she induced, indeed ruining her plans, it’s like. “oh u mother FUCK-ER u come into my turf and just DOOM -EV-ERYONE LIK-E T)(AT?! >38C”
If I am going to be honest I would of liked to see the alpha kids get more solo development before the beta kids popped up, or simply more interactions between the beta and alpha kids, like John and Jane talking, jade and Jake, I wanted to see those 4 talk
So, question, could a Lord of Light ever be beaten?
Yeah, as almighty as some power may seem or sound when it comes to the Master Classes, they’re like… Still a single individual. People make mistakes, people get overconfident, and there’s always a way to counter someone like that.
Gamzee is very passionate about his religion and extremely loyal to LE
Yeah he is, but I feel it’s more related to him being a Bard rather than him being a Rage Player? More specifically, to him being a Bard of Rage in conjunction, since LE has heavy Rage Connotations, as does the cult. You could make a case for it but like… I feel it’s more the fact it’s sort of the ‘true religion of Alternia’ where the Demon they’re worshipping actually exists and is a murderous unstoppable entity, rather than the fact they’re worshipping at all.
There was a picture in one of my classes that said “Never do tomorrow what you can to today - procrastination is the Theif Of Time” and I flipped cuz goddamn I’m too Homestuck for this
Pfffft. Confirmed, the Thief of Time is who makes you procrastinate, you know who to blame next time you couldn’t build the courage to do stuff.
Do you think Master Classes only have minions (like the Felt) when they come from singleplayer dead sessions, or would they have still have them in a normal session (perhaps weaker since they're on one planet instead of 14 of them)? On one hand, that does sound like something special that'd be unique, but on the other, they are called MASTER classes, so it's not like it doesn't fit.
It’s likely they’d get subordinates easily, but not necessarily, and Caliborn’s are special, being Leprechauns from a Dead Session and all.
going by your quiz results, Muses are far more common than Lords. while this can be considered a given, due to society generally considering people to sacrifice their own benefits for society's gain, along with the general human inclination toward empathy, do you think this means there would be a lot of sessions with a Muse but no Lord?
Good question! I’d assume so if we go by raw statistics and relating them to like, personality stuff?
okay two things: one, what class suffers from too much of their aspect and two based off statistics in reality there might just be a session all filled with rogues of each aspect
Lmao that’s true. Also, excess of one’s Aspect…? I mean- Maybe a Thief or Page eventually, not at the start for sure.
hmm since a thief of life can steal THROUGH life, do you think that a thief of life could potentially' posses' someone/something to steal what they need?
I feel the Thief of Heart may be more fitting for possession as I’ve mentioned before. But the Thief of Life may be able to like, get animals or plants to steal for them.
Great! Also me and my friends are all artists and plan to prototype our sprites with a character of ours. My sister with a demon, my friend with a furry, and me with my feralstuck trollsona (so I can be a furry AND my trollsona)
I’ve been trying to think about the Retcon’s positives, but I can only come up with the fulfillment of John’s quest. For the most part it just ruined s lot of character development and the story could’ve been concluded with out summarizing 3 years of character development in a single, sub 5 minute flash. Especially with (Vriska)! Her development and inspirational quote basically lost any relevancy or importance.
Refer to the posts I’ve made about Fandom Misconceptions, the lead-up to the ending, and the ending itself. I personally feel this is a huge misreading of the canon.
I want to write a fanstuck comic but I'm not very good at art, I can draw very well traditionally, but digitally I'm pretty bad. What do I do?
If you can draw traditionally, and you have a tablet, it’s a matter of getting used to it! I used to like, really not get the tablet? Until I got one for my birthday and I just started trying until I got it.
it kinda annoys me seeing people declare Hope and Rage as the strongest aspects because like, im a Space player??? does that make me weak :/ although basically existence itself is at my disposal
Aspects are subjective to whoever is using them, and the situation at hand, so rating them from Weakest to Strongest is like trying to declare which one of the Classic Elements is more important.
(Don’t actually message me if there IS an order of importance to them, if there is, it’s dumb, they’re building blocks of Nature, they should all be important in their own distinct ways)
i know Mind players might have an issue with how they want themselves to appear to others (like pretending to be one way for their friends), could a case also be made for that involving Space players? since Space also has to do with appearance/adapting?
I mean, does it have that much to do with appearances and adapting? Hmm, I’d have to dig into that but straight away I don’t quite think of Space when I hear that.
Which classpect do you think would be best at mind controlling? Mind as the aspect probably right, but what about the class? Thief? Lord? What are your thoughts?
You could make a case for most Mind Classes actually, but in different ways. For example I feel the Thief would ‘steal’ their choices and their mind, basically making them a sort of Zombie obeying their orders, while the Witch would merely sway them into doing what they want, so it’s all different kinds.
Well I have a tablet, but it isn't a drawing tablet, it's a Samsung Galaxy tab E. I'm kinda bad at it, but thank you for the advice! What kind of style would you reccomend?
Yeah, not sure how that works? I’m sure there’s programs with it too. I just have a… Let me check… Wacom something or other? If you get your hands on a drawing tablet with pressure and a drawing program to get stuff done, it ends up feeling just as natural as drawing on paper. Really the style you’re most comfortable with and comes more naturally to you should be your first option, at least at first just to get used to it. It’s a bit counter-intuitive at first, you’re drawing on the tablet, but you’re looking at the screen!
Oh, it's like a big phone. I have autodesk sketchbook pro on it to draw.
I know how a Samsung Tablet is! :p Yeah, not quite sure how it’ll work on that. Either way I’ll take the chance to use this post as a good night post, I’ll resume answering asks on the morning.
I feel like I didn't understand it the first time around. How exactly did the retcon happen and how far back did it overwrite???
The Treasure/House/Plot Hole Juju gives John the ability to become unstuck from Canon. This is very likely either an hypercharge of his Breath Powers (Detachment, Plot), or a combination of all 4 Beta Kid powers into the Juju (Breath, Light (Alpha, Fate), Space and Time), letting him go back, not in time, but in the story to rewrite events that have happened.
Ultimately though, the only thing he ends up rewriting is the Game Over Timeline, and Vriska’s death.
Even though I know the epilogue hasn't come out, I still can't help but wonder what happens to the Alpha kids after Caliborn's masterpiece. John is in the Juju with the other Beta kids, so they can't recon back to Earth C. Is Caliborn's planet a long forgotten Earth B or C? Were the Beta kids released when Vriska used the Juju?
Caliborn’s Planet is BOTH Earth B and C. They’re the same planet, Earth C is just terraformed and moved from the B Universe to the C Universe. However, it is Earth C after millions of years, completely dried up, and absorbed into a SBURB Session, so like, it may as well be another planet entirely. LOCAM to be specific.
Whether the Beta Kids were released or not, depends on your reading of the Ending and what you think actually happened in the Rapture. Them being released is a possibility, if you take the Masterpiece as the Timeline we’re following at the End, with everyone ending free again and happy. Otherwise if you consider it another Timeline, the Alpha Kids ending up trapped in a Dead Session and the Betas being absorbed permanently into the Juju, which is then likely absorbed into the Black Hole with everything else, is definitely a possibility. It’s ambiguous on purpose.
At least until the Epilogue comes out, and even then, maybe still.
As seen with (Vriska) and Vriska, did all the dream bubble ghosts double up as a result of the Retcon? Maybe Vriska was a special case because she was brought back to life, but I feel like there have been hints that there are multiple Aradias and Solluxs, so wat I was wondering was if there were multiple Lord Englishes. I'm probably reading to much into this, but I was always curious about it.
Lord English is outside of the Timeline and sequence of events, he arrived as a result of him warping into the Furthest Ring, from Hussie’s place- Even then though there have ALWAYS been more Lord Englishes, that’s like, part of his character. Unstoppable Demon with multiple Iterations through multiple Universes.
That being said, there IS a second, half dead, half blind Sollux going around, and it’s also possible Aradia has a second version of herself, alive, going around, since she visited the Meteor with Vriska, either she visited the Meteor TWICE, or there are indeed two Aradias.
I'm pretty confident that I'm a Light player and Derse dreamer, though I still can see some Prospit, but what I can't come to a conclusion on is my class. I've gotten Witch and Rogue after taking the test, but I feel more like a Seer or Mage, but I can't decide which it is: Seer or Mage? I feel like Lunar Sway could have something to do with the activeness of a class, but I still see both classes.
If you can’t quite make out the Passive/Active divide, there’s a few ways. Do you like the Seer or Mage outfit more? Do you like Rose a lot? (Because you’d be sharing her Classpect and Moon if a Seer) And, ultimately, are you more prone to Guiding and gathering information, or do you have good Intuition and Do Shit yourself? Not that either of them can’t do both, but it’s a tendency.
That Sweet Bro face that Doc Scratch displayed was because his manor was on fire?
He was just memeing at us with Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff. Ironically, it’s also one of the first Hints that he’s part Dirk (AR), but the unsettling idea that he has, indeed, a Sweet Bro face under the shell of his Cue Ball and that his head is actually empty is. Curious to say the least.
Popular headcanon is that Equius built it for her- Since to actually move her tail, she would need to have it connected to her spine, and Equius is good with Robotics of that kind. Alternatively, though, I think her tail doesn’t move anywhere other than in the Talksprites, which are guest art, and she doesn’t have one as her Dream Self, so either it’s a Robotic Implement that wasn’t replicated on her Dream Self, or it’s just. Sewn on her green coat.
Would it be like a Prince if someone was desperate to control their life and environment and the things around them, wanting to ‘fix’ their surroundings (and also sometimes having desire to ‘fix’ the people around them, both in selfless ways like trying to help them or selfish ways like ‘fixing’ them for the Prince’s own convenience) and being restless and unsatisfied most of the time? I’m trying to decide my class and Prince is pretty much the top contender if this fits.
How did Porrim get her tattoos? There's no mention of tattoo studios in Beforus nor Alternia in Homestuck? Plus I doubt there would be tattoos studios in Beforus or Alternia
There was a Tattoo Parlor in the Bubble Memory of the… Dark Carnival or whatever carnival Meenah and Vriska got to. Porrim could’ve ALSO tattooed herself.
I wonder if the sun becoming a red giant was what caused the god kids to abandon the earth for Caliborn/Caliope to inhabit later
It’s hard to say. As I’ve mentioned before, there’s also the chance Calliope and Caliborn weren’t born in one of the Timelines we’ve seen- Karkat, Dave and Jade dig up the Liberties, so there’s a chance the fact there’re so many of them in the Cherub World implies the Kids didn’t really. Win? Maybe it’s a Condy Wins Timeline- We do see a Troll off-world colony, and if they had stayed underwater still, it’d explains the Liberties being everywhere.
I really really hope that the masterpiece is a different timeline. If just and only so that our humans dont end up in those shitty situation without a way out
I mean, Roxy could Void Lil Cal into the Furthest Ring, so maybe she could Void everyone there as well and just try to hover back to Earth-C.
Is there a reason why Jade's theme; Sunslammer and Sollux's theme; The La2t Frontiier have the same leitmotifs?
That’s. You know I never realized, and it’s not just the Leimotif, right before the part with the same Leimotif it uses instrumentation commonly associated with Bec and Jade.
My theory? It’s not Jade and Bec’s Theme. It’s the Green Sun’s Theme. “Last Frontier”, Sollux theme, I don’t know when the song was made so this assumption may be entirely wrong, but Sollux WAS the one who brought the Meteor to the Green Sun. “Sunslammer” and the fact it plays when the Uranium Imps are messing around with Green Sun powers reinforces that this was, in fact, the composer’s way of evoking the image of the Green Sun. “Last Frontier”, too, implies breaching a last barrier that seemed impossible- Bringing the Meteor to the Green Sun- And also, a sense of Finality- His body dying through burning out his Psiioniics.
Again, depends? If they are released as some people say, they may just meet with the Alphas out in the Furthest Ring, or even just have John zap back into the Dead Session after the battle’s done. If they’re trapped forever, well. You better hope it’s another timeline then because I ain’t taking no Dead Jades at the end of Homestuck. Kanaya needs her wife back too. Karkat needs his Human Bf too. And John uh. Needs to hang out with his friends and not be depressed. They all deserve looooove.
Different anon, but about Mage/Seer... Does it still count of a Mage focuses on Guiding and Teaching because they just want to lay back and let people do stuff?
Do you think that if one of the other beta kids had touched the house juju they would of gotten a different power? Like maybe rose becoming omniscient, or jade being able to be omnipresent, and maybe Dave having complete control of the alpha or something time related
No idea honestly. It’s hard to say to what extent the Juju just empowered John and what are new powers. It’s sort of like the divide between Witch of Space and First Guardian powers for Jade, like, it’s dubious.
Maybe the John that zapped him and the others to the masterpiece is the other retcon-powered John that went to go see Typheus. The John that was replaced by main John when he managed to zap back to Terezi. And since that John wouldn’t have gone back to Terezi, because main John already did, he would’ve had to decide what do on his own. And “go grab my friends before they got killed and then go fight the big bad before he grows up to be the big bad” sounds like a John idea. Straight to the point
Yeah it could definitely be! There’s also yet a THIRD John, when he goes to the R3UN1ON part of the Terezi thing, to pick the ring and not let Aranea get it, he basically creates a Timeline where, Vriska didn’t survive, and Aranea didn’t mess the Timeline, which would have everyone facing Condy, Grimbark Jade and Crocker Jane without sleep-inducing powers, but also without Aranea fucking things up, and with some luck, without Gamzee going Berserk.
If John ret conned LE away somehow, would it still be the alpha timeline?
I don’t think John can retcon English away. For how powerful the Retcon Powers may seem, LE’s existence actually depended on them- That is, his grasp on the Alpha Timeline accounted for John to get the Retcon Powers in the first place.