March 2018

Have you noticed that Tyzias's sign and Stelsa's sign are both teal-signed blood players, the only difference is that Tyzias is a Prospitian and Stelsa is a Dersite

Oooh, true. It’ll be interesting to see how similar they are and how they differ.

SECRET PONY RIDE FLASH WHAT I MISSED THAT CAN U LINK IT

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=pony2

There’s also a “pony” flash (Without the 2 at the end) with Rose riding Maplehoof instead. Both are linked on the top-right corner of the Jaspers Fast Forward flashes, if I recall.

wHAAATT where is this flash i need it oh my god

See the post below. The background of the Ride flashes is also used two other times, once with ARquius’ creation, and the other with ARquius and Davepeta’s hug.

I've just learned about witch and familiar, and I would like to know what kind of familiar could a witch of blood or a witch of heart have ?

I’d like to think a Witch of Blood could be a relative, perhaps yourself for a Witch of Heart? Or a Splinter of yourself at the very least, some alternate version. That’s for more symbolical though I’m sure you could have like. A Bloody creature and some kind of Ghost if you wanna go more literal. I’m bad at coming up with Familiars.

since we're talking about familiars, what do you think the familiar of a witch void could be?

Horrorterrors are the easy answer. “Nothing” would be ironic but also maybe, plausible? 

For all muses and lords have the followers? And are they always leprechauns?

Leprechauns are exclusive to a Dead Session it’d seem, and maybe to Caliborn’s Session, and other Dead Sessions would get other followers! Muses and Lords, however, just by their nature of Commanding, are likely to have, if not followers, at least a good group of friends.

Are dead sessions always a Time challenge? Caliborn's was, and alt-Calliope says hers was the same, but those are kind of the same session so maybe that's not a general pattern? I could see them being a random Aspect, unwinnable by any player of a different Aspect. The minions would be related to that Aspect too in some way.

Seems like they’re a time trial- Not a Time trial, just a time trial. It’s designed to be unwinnable by design, but being a Time Player, and specially a Lord of Time, seems to have favored Caliborn to do the impossible. Dead Sessions aren’t a challenge, or a trial. They’re a punishment. In fact, I headcanon that even if you win a Dead session, you’d remain stuck in it, unable to leave it, just. Alone, forever, unconditional immortality not letting you die. It’s not meant to be fun or challenging, it’s just unfair. Buuuut he got the express way through Juju Succ, the lucky bastard.

So how do the other iterations of English exist in their universes? After fucking with Alternia he presumably went to Hussie’s mansion and then to the furthest ring.

The same way we have Jack English. He doesn’t go to different Universes- Different Universes are infected with the Cue Ball (Scratch’s Seed) and/or Lil Cal (English’ Vessel). Doc Scratch implies having hijacked the First Guardian process of many other Universes, thus bringing LE into said Universe eventually, while the mere presence of Lil Cal (Transmitted through Nightmares), is enough to possess someone and channel English’ Soul through their bodies. So yeah. He’s born anew every time.

Is it... Okay for a Mage of Void to be terrified of the Eldritch? None of my friends seem as scared as I am when talking about it...

I mean, as a Mage of Void you may know more about them and about why you should fear them. :3c

Hi, maybe a stupid question, but I was wondering if I could use that "Jack no clown outfit" picture as my icon. It's okay if you say no, I just wanted to ask first! ;u;

Oh my God, please do that was such a silly edit you don’t even need permission for that really! X3

how would breath players react to horror terrors like rose? (or pretty much any aspect that's usually i guess light and bouncy?)

Each person would react differently, including people with the same classpect. However if we’re going with Breath as Detachment? They may just shrug and be like. “yeah okay, cool i guess.”

Could you explain muses and their powers? I thought a muse of time would be able to lead their friends in battle by knowing their enemies' actions ahead of time, but something you said a while ago made me think this was untrue. How do muses powers work?

It’s hard to tell because we only have one example canonically, but let’s see. We see, with Caliborn, that Time itself bows to him, he Commands it. The entirety of the Alpha Timeline is shaped by him. So, as I have mentioned before, there’s a Passive-Active dichotomy with Selfishness vs Selflessness, but not necessarily power-wise. Callie draws and her Fanfiction affects the story of Homestuck, her Creativity and her Drawings Command the Story as well, and in the very end, her God Tier self takes direct action to Conduct Space and collapse it, Commanding the End of the story. In this way, Calliope and Caliborn’s powers are actually extremely similar, channelled differently, and through their respective Aspects, but near identical in their reach and their effect on the story.

But then, much like how Sylphs seem like the ‘Healers’ and how Pages are the ones with the ‘Potential’, even sharing the same verb, Muses and Lords are very notably distinct. Caliborn rose to power, took control over the narrative and the Timeline. Conversely, Calliope became completely isolated from everything, away from everyone she loved. Much like the paths presented by Yaldabaoth, Calliope was a Martyr, Caliborn, a Conqueror. This is where the apparent tendency of the Lord and the Muse seems to show through, Muses must Endure their Aspect to rule through it, Lords take their power and hold it with very little limit. To be successful, Muses must Endure and push through, Lords must Contain themselves, lest they fall into Tyranny. At least that’s how I see it.

What will happen with a muse of times quest? Cause I am one, but don't want to be in a loop like English because that sounds kinda boring

No idea. Quests and what you do with your powers is highly individualized- Enduring the pass of time and influencing the Timeline and what must happen made me describe them as sort of Fate Weavers in the past, but it depends?

That makes sense. I myself I guess am "enduring time" because I'm in a stressful loop that keeps repeating every day and I can't find a way out because I'm not an adult yet. That to me seems like I'm "enduring time"

I don’t want to be in control though. I just want to have fun and see what happens

You gotta take control of your life and make it more healthy for yourself eventually. However, it doesn’t mean you need to be an absolute ruler or anything. In the immortal words of Calliope:

CALLIOPE: i thoUght this encoUnter might,
CALLIOPE: hold some pUrpose for me?
CALLIOPE: that yoU might let me know how i fit into everything, from this moment onward.
[…]
CALLIOPE: bUt then…
CALLIOPE: what shoUld i do?

CALLIOPE: you don’t need to do anything.
CALLIOPE: be who you’ve become, and who i didn’t.
CALLIOPE: consume the fruits of an existence i could never understand.

CALLIOPE: live.

Live your life, and be who you are.

Thank you for clarifying for me. I am trying to take hold of my life, but I don't feel as if I can as of yet because I am only 14. However, I will try to end this repetitive cycle of the boredom and stress of school.

I mean, when stuff happens when you’re young it can be really tough, you feel like you have no control about anything, so Godspeed.

How do you think Sburb would work for a nomadic species?

I imagine you mean a Space Nomadic species, in which case, I think they’re not supposed to play SBURB, it’s implied Cherubs are a species that’s just not made to play the game, which is why Caliborn and Calliope are such oddities, specially Callie, so maybe the same goes for nomadic species.

Nah I just meant in general, like a mongol horde type of society or something, but you're point is probably still stands.

The game’s a planet-wide event though, whatever society the people in the planet proper have is pretty much irrelevant- Everything dies.

Earlier you mentioned you were a Seer of Doom, so what EZ Sign did you get?

Camino! I’m a filthy Limeblood.

I myself am teal, Librist

That’s… Time Prospit, right? Still trying to learn the names.

What would you sign Caliborn as? Mainly the sign class, as he would be a -ries, but I feel like he would be a Purple sign. What do you think of Capries for Caliborn to match his Honk Friend’s sign class?

I mean, if we go by his blood he’d have to be a Canries. He’s candy red blooded, and his sister, who shared his same body, was Lime. (Another Lime tone, but still)

I’m pretty confident in being a Capripia. (Derse+Light) but I keep going back and forth on the lunar sway. I can be very adaptable, but I find it hard to let go and live in the moment sometimes. The fact that I keep going back and forth makes me think Derse but I can see both. Do you have any advice on how to make up my mind?

Honestly? Not really, Lunar Sway can be extremely ambiguous.

I can definitely see Canries, actually, considering that he is not a villain, but a misunderstood artist at heart.

Nah, even if Artist Caliborn wasn’t Lord English, he’s still an untreatable, villainous asshat. 

What do you think about classpects/ signs for Joey and Jude? (Mainly Lunar Sway and Aspect) I always thought Jude would be Derse and Joey Prospit, but the Aspect idk. I’ve heard Light for Joey, but Jude struck me more as Light or Mind and Joey Hope or Heart. What do you think?

I still go for the Maid of Light Joey and Seer of Doom Jude, but I have no idea about their Lunar Sway. A lot of people are torn about whether Joey is Life or Light or something else, but I think what sells Joey being Light to me is the fact Doc Scratch is contacting only her on Act 1.

I think that Hussie created the Virgo symbols from the Extended Zodiac way before Hiveswap

All the signs from the Extended Zodiac date back to a bunch of years back, indeed, we’ve seen several of the symbols before on the old 3D models and on Homestuck.

I made a purple blooded troll named Fressh Asheck and I don't know whether I should be proud or ashamed

I’ve. SEEN Fantrolls you people wouldn’t believe. Embrace the art of making Fantrolls just out of a sentence or meme. Embrace it.

I wish I could play hiveswap but I'm broke and I'm not an adult yet :(

Hopefully you can get your hands on it! There’ll likely be a sale where it’s even cheaper when Act 2 comes out, so maybe?

No seriously I don't even have a dollar, my parents don't do allowances

What’s your Steam tag?

I think you wrote Maid of Mind Joey instead of Maid of Light

Whoops yes I did.

I don't even have a steam, I've been meaning to get one but y'know *▪*Procrastination*▪*

Fair enough.

Hi! Im that one sylph that has trouble chosing between breath and light (again, sorry, I'm indecisive) but lately I kinda find it hard to separate between both aspects? Bcs light is relevance in a story and breath is how the plot moves forewrd or something like that so as a sylph I would be the creator of relevance in others or... crestor of a story/plot in others? And i don't really see that much difference between those!! Help?

If you can’t distinguish between the more Meta aspects of the Aspects, focus on the more literal meanings. Breath as Air, Freedom, Motion, Detachment, Light as Knowledge, Fortune, Fate, Light.

Most of the class descriptions you have are more related to the associated character's aspect more than his class, so i'm assuming that when the actual class test comes it won't be similar to this.

The Class Descriptions are taken from all canon examples, so they may be partially biased but, if anything, not towards one Aspect, but towards two at the very least.

Wait?? When does Doc Scratch talk to Joey???

The Hint System. Whenever you’re Jude or Xefros, it simply doesn’t work, but when you’re Joey, you get messages from Doc Scratch, mainly saying how “Were you expecting this message to change if you kept clicking?” to “I sympathize with your situation, but you’re simply outside of my sphere of influence right now”, but culminating if you try to use the Hint System right after warping to Alternia, where it tells you something along the lines of, “Ah, I see you’re finally in my neighborhood. I’ve got plans for you” or something like that.

And as we know from Vriska and Rose, he has a predilection for bothering young, Lightbound ladies.

Fucking creepy.

You talked about void and rage magyyks once, what kind do you think space would have??

We’ve. Seen Space Majyyks. First Guardian powers.

In France, we have to do a group work on a certain subject. Mine is « Why aren’t some bloods red ? » It was really interesting and since I couldn’t help but link it to Homestuck, I thought I might as well share it. 

Please remember that I’m not an expert on the subject and english is not my maternal language, and I’m sorry if I make mistake. If you want, you can do your own research, most of the information is in english anyway.

Let’s start with the basic : our blood and most animal’s blood is red because of hemoglobin, a respiratory pigment (= a molecule that increases the oxygen-carrying capacity of the blood (wikipedia) ) containing iron.

First, I want to talk about Cherubs and their red and green blood.

I discovered a species of lizard that have green blood (and green tissue and bones), even though they have hemoglobin and should have red blood. It is called Prasinohaema virens or green blooded skink. They have a high concentrations of a green pigment, biliverdin. Biliverdin results from the breakdown of the heme moiety of hemoglobin (wikipedia). It normally transforms into bilirubin before being evacuated (bile or urine). The same thing can happen to Cherub, and explain their green blood.

But even if this answer why does Calliope have green blood, it doesn’t answer how they « switch » from one to another. So here is my theory : When they go to sleep, they « adapt » the quantity of biliverdin : they produce it to have green blood or evacuate it to have red blood. But this could leave green blooded cherubs anemic (less hemoglobin). Apart from this, it can work and it strengthen the association between Cherubs and reptiles. 

Troll and their 12-13 blood colors are more complicated, but I still have two theory : 

The easy one : Like Cherubs, they have hemoglobin and alien pigments, which vary in quantities to create the variation of color between castes, and Karkat would be a mutant because he doesn’t have any pigments.

The fun one : Trolls have a lot of different respiratory pigments that gives them their blood colors. (I will only talk about the ones we can find on earth)

-Sea dwellers (and maybe purple blood trolls) would have hemerythrin. It’s a violet-pink respiratory pigment mostly found in marine worms (like magelona or penis worms (maybe this is why most sea dwellers are dicks) ) 

-Blue blood trolls would have hemocyanin (a blue respiratory pigments that uses copper). Maybe some of you know the horseshoe crab : it’s an marine arthropod (not a crab) with blue blood. But, other arthropods like scorpions, spiders (hello Vriska) and even snails have blue blood.

-Green blood trolls would have chlorocruorin (a green respiratory pigment). (I’m not sure about this one because there isn’t much information, and some things are hard to believe) Chlorocruorin is mostly present in worms like christmas tree worms (<== they are really pretty), but some worms species have both hemoglobin and chlorocruorin, and get rid of hemoglobin when growing up. More surprisingly, chlorocruorin seems to be dichromatic and appears green in diluted solution and red in concentrated solution (<== I don’t know if this is true) so Karkat would just be a high-pressure/high-concentration lime blood troll.

-Gold and Bronze blood trolls are a mystery to me (maybe the hemolymph of insects ?)

-Finally, Rust blood trolls would just have hemoglobin, maybe slightly different from human, and more « rust » than red.

Unfortunately, this doesn’t explain why high blood lives longer, or why low bloods have psychic ability, and I’m not sure how most of it would work (especially for trolls), it was mostly for sharing some theories and information.

Fun facts :

-When you lack oxygen, your blood/skin turns bluish, it’s called a « cyanosis ». When cyanide is associated with iron, it makes Prussian blue (almost the same hue as Equius). So, Equius was destined to be strangled.

-The Ice fish doesn’t need respiratory pigments and it’s blood is colorless/white.

-I’m not even a Seer of Blood, just a Maid of Breath really invested in the subject.

In Conclusion :

-Cherubs are skinks

-Trolls are squishy worms

-Limule is a valid troll name (bonus if they’re a blue troll with a horseshoe crab lusus)

-Equius is Prussian

-Fantrolls with colorless/white blood are valid

Thank you for reading it all. Sorry if this was too long, or not clear enough, I’m not the best explainer, but I still hope you learned some interesting things.

I will pass my oral exam on this next week, so wish me luck…

-L

You weren’t kidding, that’s long- And yeah I do recall seeing some posts about Blood Pigments in the past talking about the possibilities with Troll Blood and such! It’s interesting seeing it also applied to Cherubs though, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone talk about Cherub Blood, and them being comparable to reptiles makes way too much sense since, you know, snake skeleton angels.

That being said, do we know if Cherubs ONLY have Red and Green? There could be other Cherubs with different blood colors. Who knows really, though.

Imagine Crockercorp!John and Grimbark!Jake

I really cannot imagine Grimdark Jake at all. But I’m pretty sure Crocker John is like, a big Fandom thing.

Why did Jane become corrupted when Grimbark!Jade placed the tiara around her forehead at that precise moment and not the other times?

Chances are Condy could’ve done that at any point but she waited for the moment Jane ascended to God Tierhood to take over.

Does SBURB/SGRUB players know the name of their planets before passing through the seventh gate or after it has been created?

First gate* They’re likely to be told by the Consorts first, but they could also know if they’ve woken up on Prospit/Derse first. Also there’s the possibility that the title of the Planets is a physical label, like the Prospit/Derse ones.

physical label?

On the flash at the end of Act 6 Act 1, the one with the song Infinity Mechanism, the ‘PROSPIT’ title sort of like. Literally appears, hovering in the sky, in 3D. Seeing as the HOMESTUCK logo at the beginning has a back, and there’s the THANKS FOR PLAYING label at the end, I’d say there are just some. Labels for Planets and Titles that are actually there.

I find it funny that "Derse" and "Prospit" are physical labels, it's like breaking the fourth wall; first-timers assume it's just a text that'll disappear after some seconds, but in reality it's a concrete block of text that's literally besides the respective kingdom

Snrk, yes and I love it.

When browsing through the EZ Signs I was disappointed to see that Arcen's wasn't the sign of the pyromaniac or something of that sorts. Missed out on a good pun.

Oh my god that would’ve been a good one. At least Virus looks like a Virus.

Also, though they have basically the exact same sign, Gemrius and Pipia aren’t the same aspect.

There are some pretty similar Signs, some feel like the design is arbitrary- For example, you’d imagine the one that’s basically a Sagittarius Arrow through a Leo sign to be Heart, but nope. It’s a little bit strange.

When you say a prince can struggle with ego, could it also be a lack of ego? Like, say a Prince of Breath or Hope who suffers with a lack of self confidence or self worth? Not sure if Dirk counts for this.

That’s a way to see it, similarly a friend of mine got Heart in the Canon Aspect Quiz, and didn’t like it because they weren’t obsessed with their Self- Until they realized they were SELF Obsessed, as in, with the concept of the Self and oneself rather than specifically on themselves. I could see a lack of Ego being an interesting Prince Twist.

Question: would a muse of time be able to control time's flow in certain areas? For example: if they accidentally cut their hair too short on one side, would they be able to speed up time in the shorter areas to make the hair grow faster?

Maybe? Specific control like that would fall under command too, I guess, but that’s the most mundane use for Time Powers I’ve ever heard and I love it.

Would a rogue of light be able to use their powers offensively?? Like lasers and stuff? Or is that too literal or active??

Sure.

Would a witch of void be able to summon a blast from a neutron star, or would that be more spacey?

Sounds more Spacey, unless you can find a reason why that blast could be Void.

Do you think any class of Hope could summon angels to fight for them?

You could make a case for a bunch, if not all of them, but also not necessarily. 

Is it ever shown/implied in the comic that horuss has the same amount of STRENGTH that equius has or is it just a heir of void thing

I believe he implies his Steampunk Suit is powered by his sweat and holds his immense strength back.

how intelligent are consorts/what's their general communication level? I know it varies because some might be the wise old village leaders and others are just NAKing away but given that they've got a whole kingdom they can't be *all* NAKNAKNAK MY GLASSES ARE TALKING TO ME

Dave single-handedly dismantled the Crocodiles’ Stock Exchange- Then again they HAD a Stock Exchange to begin with. They’re definitely not smart, but also can be clever in their own ways? I’d argue the two smartest Consorts are Casey, and Mushroom Salamander.

What if that was commentary that a stock exchange is just a dumb idea?

“A bunch of brainless crocodiles made it, and a single dude with cool shades single-handedly destroyed the economy.” Now that’s the kind of social commentary I live for.

Do you think male Jade bloods would be a thing (not in Hiveswap, just at all) and how long do you think a fuschia blood would live before being culled (and would there be a way for them to get by being anonymous)

Fuchsias are likely a pretty important event, but Karkat was born with candy red mutant blood and went apparently largely ignored, so perhaps they could too? Fuchsias will live as long as they don’t threaten Condy’s sovereignty, which means once they grow old enough to become Empress/Emperors, they’re fucked. There are Male Jadebloods, they’re a female-dominated Caste, but it seems to be a Tendency. I’m also still crossing my fingers for next week’s Jadeblood to be a guy. Please WP. I beg of you.