As the Furthest Ring is blown right open and the Bubbles explode, the Space of the Furthest Ring becomes more stable and navigable, basically reality begins to spill on the seams of the Non-Euclidean Space.
If you look up “Steven Universe Homestuck” or “Steven Universe God Tier”, a picture will pop up of art with the Crystal Gems in God Tiers- Garnet as the Seer of Time, Amethyst as the Rogue of Void, Steven as the Page of Heart, and Pearl as the Maid of Hope. It was originally posted on Twitter, and if you look around you’ll find a response by Hussie to that tweet where he praises the God Tier choice. I don’t quite know the original, but it’s popular enough that you can find the screencaps easily.
Splinters are a Splinter of the same Soul, unless something extremely dramatic happened they’re still the same Soul, and as such, the same Classpect. Not to say- The sense of Self of a Heart Player doesn’t always have to be Splintered, Splinters are kind of specific.
I had no idea this was even a take on the Classes, and it’s… Interesting, but I wouldn’t be quite able to tell? Being dependent on someone or independent is very related to every specific individual.
Terezi and Aradia are both immune. The fact Aradia’s immune means it’s not caste-related, nor is it Aspect-related, but it’s highly likely lower castes are just usually more mentally weak.
Just like how there’s electricity and Internet even though the houses have been severed off the grid completely, it’s likely that there’s either just random oxygen everywhere, or that everything past the game is more conceptual than physical, so it’s more that they stop physically requiring oxygen to survive?
I mean she controls the Dancestors, but not quite the actual Beta Trolls does she? The closest she may come is when she controls Terezi during Game Over- But that always felt like her telekinetically manipulating her body rather than mind controlling her.
Alpha Dave.
Really, no one can tell you what your True Aspect is better than yourself. If there’s four of them you relate to, it may really be any to the point you could choose based on power preferences or aesthetics! Otherwise, trying to look which one is more prevalent in your life, or which one you’d relate to the most if you were in your ideal spot in life could help tip the balance.
Good advices!
Same as with Aspect honestly. See which may fit you better. Relating to characters…
Seers are THE Guides. Mages can aid guide others too, but they can be more self-driven, and seem to base themselves more in intuition. Seers seem to use literal foresight and gathering of information from various sources, past, present and future, to build up an idea about whatever it is they need regarding their Aspect, to envision the possibilities in their Mind and make sure something does or doesn’t happen. They direct the Timeline in the direction they may need necessary, and influence those around them to act. Rose, planning the entirety of the Green Sun Mission, and then just knowing the way through the Furthest Ring, to point Aradia and Sollux where to throw the Meteor. Terezi, searching through the possibilities of her and Vriska’s choices to see the only ways things could go, reading her own choices to give John specific moments in her life to go through…
I’ve talked about the Thief of Blood in a more power, vampire-based kind of way- But you know what, you’re ABSOLUTELY right, a devil-like figure taking from people through contracts and agreements, with vile trickery to get others to agree while reaping the benefit of their gullibleness would TOTALLY be Thief of Blood-y
You forget the head’s explosion made a Black Hole. He wasn’t sent away. He was sucked in. Gamzee, the Crowbar, even Yaldabaoth, are all items that are in Caliborn’s Land, on the future Earth- It’s obvious the Black Hole was a worm hole connecting the end of Lord English (Lord Jack’s version) and the start of his journey (Caliborn), and it makes sense! after all, if the items Caliborn gets come from the defeat of an iteration of Lord English? Then that ensures to close the Time Loop, Lord English has to exist, and become enough of a threat that people would oppose an iteration of it and defeat it, thus sending his Caretaker and the Weapon he used to achieve immortality to his realm.
And that’s the scary thing about Lord English. Even his Defeat is part of the plan. Because he was defeated, he could begin his journey, and become Lord English in the first place. You cannot hope to stop the Demon.
He’s already here.
Good grief, who WOULDN’T want to wear a magnificent Codpiece like the Bard’s, of course it’s unisex.
In all seriousness though, it was either a mistake by Hussie that he corrected, or just intended to be another theory by Calliope, she’s explicitly a Theorist after all. Regardless, considering as… Distasteful as the Cod Piece boner may be, having it be a male-only Class BECAUSE of that would be a tad transphobic. If anything a better reason would be the Prince-Bard duality- With ‘Prince’ being a male-coded name, just as ‘Witch’ is female-coded. But yeah, Classes are not Gendered.
What sells me on the idea that it was intended to be a debunkable theory from the beginning is how arbitrarily she sticks to the idea of Rogues and Thieves being a female-predominant Class. Like. There’s no reason why that’d be, other than the fact there’s 5 characters with the Thief and Rogue Classes, and only 1 of them is a guy. It’s a very biased point of view taken from an extremely reduced sample size.
Breath. (Detachment)
It’s unknown what the extent of their power is. Their very nature is mysterious in the same way though- They’re implied, in Canon, to come from a Void Session, which implies they are the White and Black Queen’s Rings from the Alpha Kids’ Session. This is further implied by the fact Roxy and DD become invisible when wearing the Black Queen’s Ring, but, Caliborn implies a closer connection to the Void, and we know the Queen’s Ring can cast the Red Miles, so it’s hard to tell if it can STILL do that, if it’s just like. Stuff the Ring can do naturally, or if it’s specific to THAT ring, or if something happens to it afterwards that makes it into a Juju.
The Life Ring is even weirder, we know it can bring a character back to life- But it is not something the Kids got from the White Queen or anything like that. You know the furthest back traceable origin of the Ring of Life? Fucking Hussie. HUSSIE himself gave it to Vriska, and then Tavros got it, then John got it. There’s also the implication that they may actually be the same One Ring, rather than two separate ones, since ‘losing one’ is usually linked to ‘finding the other’. The fact in the end the Caliborn that becomes Lord English is wearing the Ring of Void, and Calliope is wearing the Ring of Life, only reinforces the idea of duality, yet one and the same, though.
And honestly, we cannot tell much more from them. It’s one of the biggest mysteries of the comic right now, and they’re not helped at all by the fact that they are… Well. Jujus. They’re authorial McGuffins. They appear and disappear and have extremely powerful and arbitrary powers in-canon. There’s no trace-able origin in the story itself. Because there’s really not much of an origin. They’re Plot Points- The Vessel of the Villain, spanning the entire story. The Manifestation of the Plot itself with the Kids trapped within which they must escape in order to get away from English. The Clock that showcases who lives and who dies. The Ring able to bring back any character from the realm of the dead. A Cheat Code that makes everyone hyper creepy happy alluded to be an Easter Egg in the game that is SBURB. It’s like. They’re not physical, sensical things. There’s a layer of Meta over every Juju.
Nope, it seems arbitrary, or maybe thematic to other stuff? Aradia’s is brown (Team Charge?), Tavros’ is blue (Vriska? Breath?), Sollux’s is pink (Feferi?), Karkat’s is orange (No connection. Early Blood color scheme?), we never see Nepeta’s Hive from the outside, but the color of the inside of the house seems reddish so it may give off that hue, or perhaps pinkish (Heart?), Kanaya’s is literally Jade’s tower so the windows have no specific color, Terezi’s is yellow (Yeah no connection either), Vriska’s is cerulean (Vriska), Equius’ is blue (B100), Gamzee’s is yellow (??? May just be, light in general being yellowish, there seems to be a lot of yellows and oranges and reds and pinks), Eridan’s is violet (Wweh), and Feferi’s is Pink (Glub!). So, sometimes it matches, it seems maybe more typical of the higher castes? It should also be noted Sollux lives in an apartment and every block of the apartment has that same pink hue to the windows, so it’s not just him.
Yeah kind of arbitrary at times.
Well, the thing is- Alt! Calliope was never in contact with anyone from the Alpha Group. Without Calliope, Roxy and Dirk would’ve stayed disconnected from Jane and Jake, they would’ve never been able to even start the Session of SBURB and get to know each other. There was never a Black Hole to send Yaldabaoth to Calliope in that Alt Session, because she’s… From a Doomed Timeline. In which she predominated over Caliborn. A Doomed Timeline where Lord English was not born, and as such all of his Time Loop is unravelled and couldn’t go too far.
He watched Naruto and DBZ and it just stuck with him.
Exactly. He could be anywhere. He could be anytime.
He could even be… Anyone.
Some times your innate tendencies may not be the best. Look at Dirk. As a Prince, he struggles against his ego and his controlling ways- Him acting more like a Knight actually offsets the overwhelmingness of a Prince, trying to better himself to an extent. Innate tendencies are good in moderation, but when you are excessively one way or another, you’ve got to keep yourself in check somehow.
Then again, when the ‘Justice’ is determined by a system like Paradox Space, is there any difference between what may be ‘Justice’ to the Universe, and what may be ‘Justified’?
I mean you can still hover over to Derse or just have Grimoires and Windows.
I mean she eventually used the Thorns of Oglogoth which had a similar sort of connection to the Horrorterrors, so not much of a difference.
He woke up on Prospit first, but kissing him after dying made him awaken as his Dersite self. So it seems that people with two Dream Selves will wake up on their non-main Dream Moon first, and resurrect as their Main Dream Moon self.
Callie is a Queen and I won’t let you say that about her in my Inbox.
:U
Well, most of the group either doesn’t give a fuck about the Hemospectrum, are already up there, or are Seadweller racist (Looking at you Equius). It’s also possible they can just not be optimistic. Given the track record she was just. Going to die as soon as Condy got back to Alternia.
I mean not really, she just obeyed their will and gazed into the unknowable with her Seer Vision. They’re just. Calamari with teeth basically out there. If you were physically there, it’s likely they’d have some weird psychic effect but it’s not like they want to corrupt everyone and everything. In fact they didn’t even really corrupt Rose as much as they… Granted her a boon. They nudged her to seek revenge, but they didn’t make her do anything she didn’t want to already.
Yes, he dislikes Seadwellers, even though they’re higher bloods.
No problem!
Mom, Alcohol is extremely related to Void, and so is Negligence. She was as good as absent to Rose, and she never managed to even know her properly.
Grandpa, uses his love of adventuring and collecting things, the building of the narrative of an adventurous explorer, and his imagination, to escape the harsh reality that is the death of his wife and the eventual annihilation of the Human Race because of SBURB.
Nanna was bound by the Baking Goods Baroness that made her life hell, but pushed through to become a positive influence in John’s life and his Healer quite a few times.
Bro is pretty centered about his values, about himself. What he thinks is important for Dave, to the point of neglecting what Dave actually needs. He tries to strengthen him to the point of abusing the poor thing, and can’t see the damage he’s causing because, in his eyes, he believes being in Dave’s same position, it would be the best for him.
Hey! It’s late and I’m a bit burnt out so I’ll check the tags tomorrow in case either of those haven’t been answered to- But just in case, feel free to hit up my search bar and look for those Classpects, I’ve already answered a good chunk of them! I’ve been considering doing something more comprehensive at some point, but we’ll see…
Don’t see why not.
Cronus isn’t Humankin, he pretends to be to get attention. He hides his jewelry on a nearby chest to make it seem like the Hemospectrum isn’t a big deal for him to also get more attention, even though he totally sees himself as superior.
CG: YOU KISS THE GROUND THIS LUNATIC WALKS ON BECAUSE HE HAS PURPLE BLOOD
CG: BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM RIPPING ON ERIDAN, I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU DON’T LIKE HIM
CG: AND HIS BLOOD IS EVEN PURPLIER, ISN’T IT?
CT: D –> Yes
CT: D –> That’s different
CT: D –> He is a sea dweller
CT: D –> Our feud is codified in tradition
CT: D –> Neigh, we are obligated to be at odds
CT: D –> It’s dignified
Call it a rivalry if you want, but I mean. With Equius’ Casteism being such a part of his character, the biased demeaning of Seadwellers based on arbitrary traditional reasons, regardless of their actual status, sounds a bit more shitty than just rivalry.
Yes and No. Even two Rogues of Void may not even have the same powers. They have the potential of having the same powers, but Classpect Powers are a big bunch and everyone taps into it differently. Thieves and Rogues have the same verb- But just like two Rogues or two Thieves, there’s a lot of differences to take into account.
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Awww, no problem at all! Also let me take this chance to say, sorry if I’ve ever deleted any of your asks! Not just yours anon, but just like, in general? Whether it be not having time for something, miss-clicking, or just working on something tangentially that would talk about it in the same way, I try to get through as many of these as possible!
Got those listed with the description of each Class, linked in the same post I have with my Class Quiz Test!
I mean the thing about Fan Species is the fact you can do anything, since you’re not restricted to any rule. You can even take species from other franchises.
Overwhelming Choice can be… Overwhelming!
I mean, technically just by the mere nature of SBURB, any Session is unique in its own way. The Lands, the Classpects, the Prototyped Stuff, the Alchemy, it’s all distinct! If you want to difference the Session from others, try doing something interesting with the Exiles and the Agents- Jack helps the Trolls, and becomes the Big Bad of the Beta Kids, so try and make something where Jack is too busy doing paperwork to actually have much of a role, or maybe he dies early, and you can have some other figure rise to power or mess stuff up! Players plotting to do something or corrupted in some way, Horrorterrors testing the Players going too far and ending up pitting them against each other…
Either by being on the meteors when the Reckoning Starts, or because there’s a literal war going on and their Land/Kingdom has been destroyed to the point they cannot keep living there.
It’s a popular pair, and it was originally a pair I headcanoned, but nowadays I go with Maid/Sylph and Witch/Heir because they’ve shown way more similarities. Both Maids and Sylphs are talked about in mythical terms of some sort as Faes, and have consistently been the ones to pull off acts of resurrection, specially of self-resurrection, whereas Witches and Heirs have a connection to Magicians and Familiars, as well as a more consistent manipulation of their Aspects.
The Classpects are broad enough to ensure there’s always something to relate to.
Doubtfully.
Yeah, exactly. Classes aren’t inherently good or bad, and lumping all Princes, for example, into the ‘bad’ Class bunch misses a big portion of Dirk’s entire character arc. Besides, if active were ‘bad’, Bards don’t exactly have the best reputation, so it already doesn’t check out.
Life, Life and Food have a pretty notable connection.