As heirs embody their aspect, do you think that if worse came to worst, an heir of space could sacrifice themself to become the new universe?
I wouldn’t say ‘embody’ specifically as a 100% Heir thing, but- No, I don’t think so? The Genesis Frog seems to be a sort of constant. What they may be able to do at most is link their Hearts- Like how Snowman’s lifespan is tied to the Universe’s?
What would be the most useful and harmful ability of a Bard of Hope if Cronus wasn't so shitty and God Tiered?
Destroying through the vast power of Hope for the benefit of others is like, Hero Material right there. He could’ve truly been a Wizard of Hope facing Lord English Harry Potter-style.
Mom got drunk to escape reality and that led her to neglect Rose and confuse her on the very foundation of their relationship, Bro didn’t account his little bro would have different thresholds of how much shit he can take and ended up abusing him to toughen him up, and Grandpa was, similar to Mom, an escapist using his imagination and adventuring instead to not think about the bad stuff that was happening, so yeah they were bad parents.
Dad though, don’t slander my man like that. Dad was misguided on WHAT John likes- Having thought the drawings of clowns in his bedroom were actual interest from him- But other than being a bit stern, he’s a good Dad.
Don’t you think it’s awful that some memembers of the homestuck community think that a few classpects are only for “those with superior intellect” ? Like the know classes or the mind and light aspects are only for those with high IQ. I personally find this ridiculous, but what do you think ?
To be honest you need a really high IQ to understand the Seer and Mage Clas-
Okay no I can’t even joke about that without cracking up. Really though? Do people do that? First of all the notion of IQ alone being like a proper measure of ‘intelligence’ as a whole, but also like. Really. :I
Yes I’m being super serious, I’m a mage of light and in a few forums and rp chats I’ve been I ,people would come up and ask a bunch of question to see if I’m smart enough. Then they would argue that it’s not my classpect if I don’t answer all their questions. Tbh I think it’s incredibly rude !
I don’t quite know about your Class, but from what you’re telling me they sound like a real Waste of Time.
aside from a bunch of passive aggressive comments about my intellect from other uptight light players ive even had a mage of light straight up call me stupid and dim for being a prince of light, not even mentioning the general hate for princes and our treatment in and out of roleplay
Christ, I didn’t know that was even a thing. Let it be a Fanon Rule that, if you ever question someone’s Class or Aspect because of their Intellect, insult them for similar arbitrary reasons, or immediately peg Thieves, Princes and the like as evil and unlikable, you’re immediately demoted to the “Waste” Class. That is what it embodies.
Hey do you think that a Prince or Bard of Doom in a doomed session/timeline would be able to undoom it through their powers of destroying doom?
Issue is that ‘destroying doom’ is not always as easy. Maybe they’d be the ones to plot how to save everyone but, you can’t just magically fix something like that with powers, you’d need a Deus Ex Machina.
I really like creating, story telling, and drawing. At first I thought I was a life player because of the creating. But now I'm thinking light player, since all of them tell stories. What's the difference?
Life doesn’t really have that much to do with Creation? It does- In the biological sense. But for Creation in itself, you either want to think of the CLASS, instead of the Aspect, or go with Space. Light though, works well to build narratives, since it’s all about information, the spotlight and such, so a writer coming from a Light background works.
I cant tell you how many times in old and current hs rp forums I've been asked if I'm going to be a villain because my sonas are princes of breath like me and sometimes (gotta admit it happened more on the old hs forums) even though I'd clearly say multiple times I didn't want to be the villain I get pushed by one or more players into that role and not to mention my friend couldn't even get into a session rp because they were a prince of space and people thought that would doom the session
???? Jesus, I didn’t know there was such a bias in the RP side of the Fandom. Maybe it’s because I don’t play OCs with people I don’t know.
For what it's worth, at least in the portion of the fantroll rpc that I know, I don't think anyone has made a big deal about certain classpects being "villains" or need to have this IQ to be a Mind player or whatever. I'm very openly a Prince and no one's ever bothered me about it. Nor have I gotten any flack for my characters who are Thieves or Bards or whatever. It's kind of disheartening to hear this happening in other parts of the fandom.
Yeah. All I can say is maybe… If people start being assholes like that, it may be for the best to stay away from those specific players?
what exactly happened to retcon terezi in Remem8er? did she just remember what happened in the game over timeline?
Pretty much parsed through the Choices of Game Over Terezi to get a sense of climatic finality on what she was about to do, vicariously experience all she was told GO! Her did but that she didn’t think she herself could do.
(re-sending this cause tumblr probably ate my ask, sorry if its not the case!) is there a class in which the player would have too much yet too little of their aspect at the same time...? like, in certain situations the aspect is pretty lacking, but to compensate for it they end up overusing the aspect in other situations, and it just ends up being a whole mess. kind of an 'all or nothing' sort of thing...? hope this makes sense ;v;
I don’t know, sorry, some descriptions are either too vague or too specific and I don’t really have anything for these.
You said for creation, think about class more than aspect (this is about the storytelling ask) would a witch of light or maid or something be a good story teller? Which classes did you mean?
Creation is tied to Maids and Sylphs. Storytelling though is… More of a specific thing to pin-point to one of the verbs? It could be anything.
How could you go about writing a evil or villainous prospititian? Cause dang that would be interesting in my fansession
Trying to stop the war by any means necessary, deeply zealous regarding the Genesis Frog to the point of fanaticism- Really ‘white’ doesn’t necessarily have to mean ‘good’.
Yo have you ever done anything for classpect fusions? Like for example I saw somewhere that Davepeta^2 was a "renegade of rhythm" based on the headcanon that a knight + rogue = a renegade and heart + time = rhythm, which I think is really neat and makes me wonder what other hypothetical classpect fusions there could be. Like tavriskasprite or erisolsprite, or even just a straight up steven universe style fusion between two players
I don’t quite like mixing Classpects like that, specially if the new Classpect loses the 1 syllable rule, since I feel like both Classes and both Aspects show through in the sprite fusions.
That being said, come on. Heart + Time is obviously Determination.
Man some of these asks are just makin me sad. Like people that care that much about role playing classes that they bash others just for picking a certain one? I just find that kind of baffling.
I kind of want Hussie to make a Class Quiz so the people like that can take it and get consistently a Prince or Thief to see how they react to it. Become what they hate the most, shoved down a peg.
About the bad parents post I agree with all of those points but do we all agree that bro was he worst still
Actually you know what? No, there was one Guardian that was worse than Bro, and that was Condy. Raising Nanna and Jade and making their life hell, killing Halley???
I'm a Bard of Hope and the thing that probably differentiates me from Gamzee or Cronus is because I respect and support my friends and they respect and support me back, because i'm devoted to them. You could sorta call it my cause in a sense, my friends are everything to me. I would do anything for them, they are the best thing to happen to my life. Oh, and I have morals.
Part 2 (Same Anon) I guess that would be what a true Bard would look like if they were aligned with good.
Do consider, Gamzee’s LE-aligned and Cronus was sort of discouraged from an Heroic path likely by Kurloz, so yeah, both Bards we’ve seen aren’t exactly the best show of ‘good Bards’.
So... you think that the motto "If there's hope, there's chance, and if there's me, there's hope" is good for a maid of hope? (And sorry for my english ;-;)
It kinda does, it also sounds like something All Might would say.
So did Gamzee actually overpower Equius, or did Equius let Gamzee kill him because of his fetish? Considering Equius is probably the strongest troll, I thought he'd bring more of a fight.
Both? Possibly both, Gamzee seems like he could be terrifyingly strong too.
I'm so confused about the new friendsim aren't they pale??? Why are they. Like That. Horny for each other sort of.
As many people imagined with the ‘rails with pails’ headcanon- The fact it’s not a relationship MEANT to produce offspring doesn’t mean they can’t… Be like that.
Do you think that Equius sweats because he’s lactose intolerant, from what I read most trolls are, and he just constantly drinks milk? Also, do you think that the sweat of trolls have a less distinctive smell since no one really mentions the smell in the comics?
Maybe he has scented towels. Either way, I’m pretty sure Troll BO is a thing. And as far as I can tell in canon, there’s no mention to Lactose Intolerance anywhere in the comic.
@anon: searching “stench” and “smell” on the site, I can confirm that vriska and karkat has commented on equius’ odor before. troll sweat does indeed smell bad.
Are the Denizens for each aspect known and set in stone? Or could they be anything? Specifically the heart aspect, but in general as well.
The Denizens for the Space, Light, Breath, Void, Life and Time seem to be constant. Specially Echidna as the Space Denizen- But that doesn’t mean there may not be VARIANTS for each Aspect. Every other Aspect is 100% Unknown.
when the kids' and trolls' meteor passed through a dream bubble, would they have to find their way back to the physical meteor afterwards in order to not get lost in a bubble? or does it like. automatically teleport them back to the meteor?
If they leave the Meteor and the Meteor leaves without them, their physical self would remain in that Bubble.
Do we know at what age trolls are considered adults? At what age do they leave the planet and at what age do their eyes start filling up?
The exact age is unknown. At 7 Sweeps- 15-16 Years old, you go through your Rites of Maturation. Given the age range, it’d seem this is your initiation into the Work Force, and then, possibly somewhere between the 8.5-10 Sweeps (18-21 Years), you’re considered an Adult, begin your Ordeals, and get sent off-world. What either Rites of Maturation or Ordeals may involve, is unknown.
Do you think if a person change is personnality and his way to act drastically, he would change a part or his classpect completely or he would still keep the same one ?
If someone was bound to have a change of personality like that, they would’ve always been the Classpect they were meant to be in the first place.
Am I the only one who was disappointed in Elwurd's route? She was kinda a bitch to Bronya and she wasn't really developed, her route was kinda ONLY about her being a lesbian.
It was a route about repressing feelings towards other Trolls on Alternia- Romantic grudges, possible Quadrant Vacillation… She wasn’t that developed specifically because she hides under the guise that she’s totally over her breakup, but it’s obvious she’s not and she tries to use you as something to make her jealous so she can get under her skin and get her back. I think it’s a really interesting character dynamic!
It’s like trying to tell Vriska’s personality from her attitude towards Equius when she was trying to get on his good side to deliver Aradiabot ‘together’, when it was obvious both were going to betray each other. You can tell the inherent feelings and that there’s more to her, but we only see a bit of a glimpse of true Elwurd on both endings- And by the looks of it she’s pretty romantically focused! Specially Spades-wise, seems she likes BOTH nice girls she thinks she can corrupt and make them bad, and mean rough girls that could step on her face and she’d thank them for it. The fact she brings you to that bar place to help you through your ‘breakup’ though, at least says she’s genuinely NICER than OTHER CERULEANS we’ve seen so far HMM.
isn’t Creation a very vague verb to describe Maid and sylph, and is there adequate evidence that they are even counterparts? if anything, Maids and Witches share more similarities than sylphs and Heir being the counterpart to Maid is also narratively sound eg. “the heiress is the maid” or the fact that many speculate heirs to “embody” their aspect and Maids are described as being “made of” aspect and isn’t that the same thing? Correct this if i’m wrong but perhaps it would bring things to light
It is true that Maids and Heirs have some thematic similarities, and Witch and Sylph do too, specially with the talk of Sylphs being ‘more magical witches’, for the longest time I thought that was the pairing! However, that’s a shallow look at the Classes, and there’s actually more textual evidence that ties Sylphs and Maids, and Witches and Heirs.
First of all- Maids and Sylphs? Are the only Classes that have had an auto-resurrection ability, and consistently too. Feferi as the Witch of Life could HEAL people, but- Kanaya coming back as a Rainbowdrinker, Aranea taking the Ring, Aradia becoming a bot, then God Tiering, Jane resurrecting after Jack killed her… It’s a big thematic thing. Aradia is MADE of time, Kanaya MAKES the wand for Eridan, MAKES Space between people by auspisticing and by chopping them with her chainsaw, Jane MAKES life in both the sense she heals and also her cooking, Aranea pretty much establishes all the pre-scratch Troll Lore, and appears paralleling Vriska’s scene where she- Emulating Mindfang, tries to MAKE Tavros have happy thoughts. Making, Creation, Healing, Improvement, seems to be the basics of these Classes.
Witches and Heirs, however, have been quite linked with Magic! John is an aspiring Magician, and he’s had Familiars tag alongside him in his travels, with the most notable ones being WV- Literally referred to as a Chaffeur Familiar, and Liv Tyler. Likewise, Jade had Bec as a Familiar, and Rose, acting Witchy, had Casey and arguably Doc Scratch. And just like the way ‘Make’ is pivotal to Sylphs and Maids, Heirs and Witches also are heavily tied to Change- Feferi trying to Change the Hemospectrum for the better, Damara being Changed herself, suddenly, by all she was put through, Mituna Changing due to protecting others from a Doom he Changed, John embodying the power of Changing the entirety of the story however he saw fit, Jade’s transformation into a furry…
And sure, you could make a point about some things- Like Heirs having to be careful not to be consumed by their Aspect, while Maids seem to have issues with something regarding their Aspect, for example. Still though, some parallels are quite telling, and I feel Sylphs and Maids, and Heirs and Witches, are good pairs.