Jack English (1/2) So sorry, but this may be a long one. I was just browsing through Gamzee's biography again, when I started thinking about the Recon, which was pretty convoluted with before and after differences. Pre-Recon, Gamzee delivered Lil Cal to CD to give to Jack English, but Post-Recon who did? Vriska? Then, Pre-Recon and Post-Recon Cherubs. We know Gamzee had to raise them, otherwise they wouldn't have the technology needed to communicate with the Alpha kids and play Sburb, so how did

Jack English (2/2) that work? I read that it was the black hole caused by Jack English that sent Gamzee, the Crowbar, and Yaldabaoth to future Earth Post-Recon. But what about Pre-Recon, as Gamzee died. Say, though, that’s is the timeline where GT Calliope predominated. That said, how would she play Sburb? And how would Earth be there in the first place, since the kids couldn’t finish the game after !GO. So maybe Caliborn predomination and Calliope predomination are both from Post-Recon, so

Jack English (3/2) maybe Gamzee raised them both, but because Calliope’s predomination timeline was destined to be doomed, she and Caliborn simply couldn’t talk to the Alpha kids, like a self fulfilling prophecy. That way, she could still play the game as Gamzee was sent by Jack English to raise them, but paradoxically they (similar to Dave and Rose after John went and died) couldn’t communicate with the kids for whatever reason. (Okay now it’s over)

You know, that’s a good question, Gamzee certainly didn’t deliver Lil Cal so, who did? Maybe it was Condy, she is still English’ Handmaid after all. Or even more terrifyingly… *Shudders* Trickster Vriska.

God could you imagine. It’s up to anyone’s guess though, that’s one change I had NOT considered actually! 

As for Gamzee’s Timeline though, the thing is, for the Game Over Timeline, it’s a Doomed Timeline at that point, chances are it never bore a fruit. God Tier Calliope’s Timeline is even MORE messed up, given she never talked to the Alphas, it’s implied that they straight up… Never contacted each other and didn’t play the game, meaning either when the Betas reached that Session, it was simply them and Condy, alone, or that Calliope’s Session is doomed BECAUSE she was alone- The Timeline could not exist as it would be a paradox, thus making it Doomed, kind of like the Dead Dave that DD killed when he tried to go back in time to recover the book. Dave saw the corpse and thus never went back in time so that body should’ve never even existed. So similarly, Calliope’s predomination would break causality, forcing her to a dead end.

That being said, in a Non-Retcon, Non-Game Over Timeline, just, no Vriska, no Aranea, it’s easy to imagine he’d have just used Aradia’s Music Boxes.

All in all, these Timelines have some paradoxes you have to look more into, and I REALLY want Hussie’s books with commentary to reach Act 6 PRECISELY because of this.