i find it really interesting how the issue of morality between hyperion and the raiders in BL2 is always defaulted to jack vs lilith and not jack vs roland. i also do it literally All Of The Time.
but. lilith hasnt really done anything to represent the raiders in-between BL1 and 2. she had to go into hiding about a yyyear? two years? after the group was formed and didn't become their leader until after jack’s death. every action the raiders took up until that point was under roland’s orders.
purging the bloodshots (twice), abandoning liar’s berg, recruiting war profiteers from atlas and dahl, and unmitigated slaughter on a scale that only a team of hired vault hunters can commit? that was all roland, not lilith.
roland and angel’s deaths are the emotional turning point of the game, so it gets personal between her and jack, but she didn’t actually have much to do with the war effort itself until the very end. the story is still framed as a rivalry between them, especially with the addition of lilith scarring him in TPS, and roland's role as a leader is never really weighed against jack in the way that lilith's is.
i just wish we got to see the actual War part of the uh. war. instead of catching the tail end of it and missing years of conflict between roland and jack specifically. <- world's most obvious roland main to ever exist.
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