1. Could Jonah kill Jonathan? Could Jonathan kill Jonah? I feel like they both have reasons to.
2. Who'd be willing to do cannibalism on the other?
3. Who do you think "died" first, Jonah's official death or Jonathan?
4. How do you think they met up?
5. Did they ever kiss?
6. Are they ever capable of being soft or are they stuck forever in passionate mode?
7. What if Dr.Fanshawe got time travelled to modern times and met Elias, would he fall again?
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1. well I’ve always thought of Jonathan as being quite a lot more physically strong than Jonah, so he definitely could kill him. I imagine it would be in a fit of that mix of rage and passion and fear and general morbidness that characterized the later part of their relationship. probably an accident too, and he’d feel equal parts like a hero for erasing an evil like that from the world and like absolute shit bc, well, he just killed the only person who understood him. he just killed his Jonah.
and as per Jonah, I don’t think he could do it himself (even poisoning him or shit like that, it’s just not his thing. I reckon he’d feel kinda meh about getting his hands dirty back then and he knows there are better things he could do). what he could do, and what he did in my interpretation of their relationship, is drive him to suicide. like just manipulating him and generally fucking him up emotionally and psicologically that he just kills himself yk. also in my brain it was a very gorey death, I might write something about that. of course, Jonah feels terrible about it too, but a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do yk.
2. cannibalism as a metaphor for love is so them. both. idk what it’d take for Jonah to do something like that but he’s definitely not above it. I think a big part of his feelings for Jonathan in their later years together is the desire to metaphorically swallow Jonathan whole, which might translate to something literal. I’m not sure why or how, but he definitely could do it.
and Jonathan- well of course he could. I get the vibe that that desire to metaphorically devour the other was mutual, and along with his general Feelings by that point (the love, the rage, the constant panic, the distrust, the morbid curiosity) who knows what he could have done.
3. Jonathan. definitely. Jonah was not letting Jonathan outlive him, and I always thought the whole bodyhopping ordeal came as a surprise to him. so yeah he would’ve taken good care of Jonathan before anything.
although now that I think of it, the other option is also fun. Jonathan catching wind of the stuff going on both at the Institute and ar Millbank and being like “wtf are you doing now” but not wanting to give in to curiosity (and the need to see Jonah of course). Jonathan finding out about Jonah’s ‘death’!!!!!! he wouldn’t know how to feel lmao.
4. hmmm I always thought they might have met at some sort of conference (those did happen back then didn’t they) or symposium about some really morbid, really understudied branch of medicine (yk those that would piss off the church). Jonah did that thing where he starts asking the weirdest fucking questions like one asks about the weather and Jonathan was immediately like “he’s so clever and interesting and curious and unashamed I need to talk to him” and they just hit it off
my second idea for a meetup is back in their university days. Jonah didn’t study medicine (I have my own headcanon on that) but I think the general social scene was pretty open. maybe Jonah was out for drinks with some friends and saw Jonathan sulking in a corner and thought “interesting specimen, need to investigate”
a third idea I had was one of Smirke’s little gatherings, but I wanted to see if I could come up with something new lol
5. yep. and much, much more. I imagine Jonathan was very reluctant at first, but by the time they first kissed the tension was unbearable and Jonah was already, well, a whore, so they were fine in the end (no they weren’t).
6. wonderful question. I believe it’s a mix of both. like their deranged passion has a bit of helpless softness mixed in, and back when they could be soft (before their entire relationship went to shit) even that softness held a passion that made it impossible to think straight.
7. oh that’s a good one. for starters, it would be so fucking funny. like “what are you doing here” “what are YOU doing ALIVE. and how did you get there”
at first Jonathan would be absolutely outraged and disgusted by everything Jonah’s done, but then, of course, he’d get curious. in my brain Jonathan was one of the first Flesh avatars, back when they were discussing whether the Flesh was real or not, so I think he’d have fun with that. and he was always big on the modification of the body from what it’s born as to what you want it to be (Dr. Fanshawe said trans rights) so when he found out Jonah’d been straight up switching them around he’d be equal parts enraged and thrilled. can you imagine his reaction at how much medicine has progressed in the last 2 centuries? bby would be fucking elated.
Jonathan reading about modern medicine and being all euphoric while Jonah just watches him with heart eyes the entire time.
and it might get Jonathan far more into the Fears, especially into the Flesh. maybe he ends up like a different version of the Boneturner or something (and then monsterfucker Jonah kicks in and well, the rest is history yk).
this was so much fun tysm!!
![excerpt from a magnus archives transcript. it reads as follows:
Archivist:
[Emphatically] I never chose this.
Elias:
You never wanted this, no. But I’m afraid you absolutely did choose it. In a hundred ways, at a hundred thresholds, you pressed on. You sought knowledge relentlessly, and you always chose to see. Our world is made of choices, John, and very rarely do we truly know what any of them mean, but we make them nonetheless.](../media/1797f46d0e9dbaf3cbd69d227620a77b3128480d.jpg)
