i like helen but very aggravating that she’s the one who is narratively positioned as the devil on jon’s shoulder (all the s4 conversations on feeding and later every s5 encounter) and not. elias. obvious choice of guy gothic villain dracula figure who should be the one to tempt him into transgressions. but they have like two conversations in private after 92 and in both of them jon’s too distracted with the clown kidnapping and melanie and martin so it’s not even about them. not good
the thing about the podcast is that it cooked with jon and elias’s characters (individually and then together) in a way that it never did again with a single major supporting character. however they were terminally uninterested. in any of that.