April 2024

valtsv:

valtsv:

the fact remains that body horror is an expression of intimacy. a grotesque and perverse one, maybe, but intimate nonetheless.

you have to know where the muscle and sinew connect and how they move, component parts coming together to form a whole, in order to alter their configuration. you have to know what the vital organs are and how they function to add to their number or replace them. to recognise something terrible, you need to be able to say where it went wrong. you have to understand every clench, flex, flutter, and twitch as if it were your own. you have to slip your fingers beneath the skin and run them along every surface, exploring them inside and out until you’ve committed the entire map to memory. to take something apart and remake it in your image, first you must love it.

dr-fanshawe:

what a curious thing to say

can’t stop thinking about it. of course his body would be vulnerable only to jon. I’m not the biggest fan of s5, but the fact that the core of it is centered around the two of them is nice, I think. previous four seasons were about elias making jon, and now, when jon is thoroughly broken and much stronger than his creator, he wants his revenge. their whole “you made me and I will destroy you; I’m your legacy and I will leave you with none” is very tasty. could’ve been done so much better, though. but alas

prawndy:

everyone’s listening to the magnus protocol and i’m still obsessed with whatever these fuckers had going on

homunculus-argument:

Enemies-to-lovers, but instead of featuring a villain redemption arc, the heroic one is getting progressively more corrupt, unhinged and fucked up, and the one who was originally the clear-cut villain out of the two is just like “well mark me down as scared and horny”

what a curious thing to say

tildexart-deactivated20240902:

Jon cuts his hair after S4 and then at one point during the eyepocalypse he sees his reflection and notices that he looks all too similar to Elias

polycoriad:

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he’s not smoking again is he. he’s not smoking again is he. he’s not smoking again. is he

jon and elias’ interactions are almost erotic sometimes, it’s so. what do you mean “details pulled directly from subject” (elias intruding jon’s nightmares to catalogue them because that’s what jon would want. because that’s something jon will appreciate later). what do you mean Pleasured Exhalation (jon trying to break into elias’ mind and elias enjoying the invasion of his privacy – even if it wasn’t successful). what do you mean monologuing through another (and you can’t tell me you’re not curious). what do you mean a shared statement (jon joining elias’ bliss, shaping it in his own way). what

girlcaligula:

jon being glad he’s not-human enough anymore to hate the world jonah has created, to hate jonah himself. jonah being glad he’s still enough human to experience awe and pride, as he witness jon -his creation- ascend to the role of god.

hauntedteacups:

Imagine you’ve spent your whole life burdened with guilt and shame. You’re a burden to your grandmother. You should have died, but another child did in your place. You are not wanted. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life needing to be in control, because you are terrified of what happens if something controls you again. Imagine you push away and lash out at everything and one that tried to get close to you or help you.

And now imagine that someone chooses you. Someone who knows every single mistake you’ve made, everyone you’ve ever hurt. And simply doesn’t care. He chooses you anyway. He guides you, shapes you, hides the truth from you, but never fully takes control away from you. Everything you hate about yourself, everything you fear yourself becoming, he praises you for. And when everyone else is scared of you and hates you (when you fear and hate yourself), he embraces you fully.

hotniatheron:

Jon [monstrous, raspy]: are you scared Elias?

Elias [blood-soaked, throaty. smug and afraid.]: Terrified. 

nikita-not-nikola:

shoutingintherain:

Someone smarter than me please make a post about how like. Jon spent most of season 5 five correcting people when they referred to Jonah as Elias, but when he actually spoke to him again himself, he fell back into those same patterns as well and instinctively referred to him as Elias because I feel like there’s some excellent points to be made there but alas I lack the braincells to make them myself

 #oh it’s abt denying familiarity towards your maker #the one who knows you down to every brush stroke #because you can’t let yourself be their creation can’t admit the intimate knowledge they have of your being (and in turn you of theirs) #because then its personal. then its about you and its about someone you know and #you can’t keep pretending this is some far-reaching worldsmashing good vs evil conflict next to which you’re nothing #its between the two of you the conflict is centered on you and the rest of the world just happens to fall within your scope #jon would love to claim insignificance and deny his agency and with ‘jonah’ he almost can #logically Jon knows jonah is elias but he doesn’t KNOW it. Jonah is a name that he’s heard not a person he knew. #it’s easy to deny a connection to and condemn JONAH #with that name jon doesn’t need to acknowledge his own conflicted thoughts and emotions wrt to #the person who always inexplicably regarded him as unique special hard to replace #who was - matters of taste aside - jon’s chosen lifeline when he was    #wracked with paranoia or doubting his humanity or starving for information         #who never looked at him with horror (more than can be said for most of jon’s friends and colleagues with whom he is currently siding) #but rather like he was seeing something precious and beautiful #the person who shaped him into the what he is today - a thing capable of #incredible power knowledge and sight to the point of complete understanding #and it’s a gift jon is trying so hard to see as terrible rather than wondrous #with the name ‘jonah’ - a name jon can hardly put a face to - all that can be ignored.#but then his companions say ‘elias’ and it’s just habit for them  #it doesn’t mean anything when clearly it SHOULD and he corrects them #beholding is all about seeing and maybe if jon forces elias to become jonah #(his true name a name that simply stands for an evil and unknowable figure) #he’ll finally see his true nature #he’ll finally see things clearly and choices will be easier they won’t be personal #he can take down the monster without having to acknowledge it’s twin inside himself #so he calls him jonah and insists everyone else do the same #but its easy to deny your maker when you’re not staring them in the face seeing yourself reflected back in their eyes #and suddenly knowing exactly who you’re seeing #anyway that was a really wordy way to say that names hold intimacy

somuchbetterthanthat:

weeping thinking of Jonah saying he knew deep down this would never last, thinking of Jonah in the last seconds of his life probably scared out of his mind but also he’s not really dying is he, he’s staring into jon’s eyes, jon killed him but jon is his, his creation, his work, his his his, so really he died from his own hand, and isn’t he what he has been doing for centuries, a little death every few decades to survive beyond bodies, his legacy has killed him but there is a part of his soul that is anchored in jon’s heart and that’s why he gets to say good luck and that’s why OBVIOUSLY if there is a somewhere else Jonah is here also, a phantom limb escaping from jon the moment Martin also brings the knife to his chest—

lilprince:

Hello Jon. Apologies for the deception, but I rather wanted to make sure you started reading, so I thought it best not to announce myself…

This may well be my favourite cosplay shoot I’ve ever done, it was so much fun and Scott was just brilliant as Elias. So creepy haha. And Egg is an utter genius, taking the double exposure in camera so that it wouldn’t have to be edited in post. Blew my mind.

Photo by Meggo Photo (www.instagram.com/meggophoto)

Elias Bouchard by Rebel Wolf Cosplay (www.instagram.com/rebelwolfcosplay)

jonelias is so dear to me. elias watching jon and realizing softly Oh, you are just like me. jon, a couple of years later, realizing, devastated Oh, I am just like you

raven-foul:

I miss my podcast guys

valtsv:

valtsv:

i think the hottest look you can give someone after they commit acts of unspeakable violence is approval. like don’t get me wrong if there’s lust there too that’s great, but staring at someone with gore dripping down their chin and coating their hands to the wrists with undisguised appraisal and admiration. maybe giving them a little nod as if to say ‘well done’. THAT’S what says “yeah we’re gonna fuck nasty later”.

“i could fix him” well i could pat him on the head and tell him he’s a good boy

late-to-the-magnus-archives:

dr-fanshawe:

it’s so insane to me how differently jonah treats jon compared to how he treats everyone else. throughout his life he treated people like tools, like something “to watch, to know, and ultimately to discard”. he doesn’t care about their suffering as long as it benefits Him. but even though he separates himself from other people, puts himself on a higher pedestal, it never seems to apply to jon. with jon it’s always “our master”, “our victory”, “the world that we have made”. everyone else is for us to use. the world is our playground. he’s been living with this “use or be used” mindset for centuries, always on the run, never safe, never trusting anyone, just to meet jon and decide to include him in his life-long plan… and yes, part of this was out of the necessity (he did need to get an archivist for this to work), but if it was purely transactional, then why would he say all that. gayass

Oh, I have so many thoughts on this.

Let’s start with the fact that Jonah Magnus outright stated he chose which Fear to serve and try to make supreme - to the fanatical level that the writers he’d be a cleric in DND.

Jon, however, was chosen. Jonah wasn’t chosen. And yes, Elias tried to say he had chosen Jon in MAG 160, diminishing any specialness on Jon’s part, but in the same letter, said that the Web had already marked Jon, essentially gift-wrapping him, and implying Jonah’s choice wasn’t as important.

(That letter was all over the place, too, and I still believe it’s because Jonah both desperately wanted to be seen by the only other person on Earth who could understand him… and was simultaneously terrified of what would happen when Jon came, so Jonah half-heartedly beat him down with words and birthdays to try to keep him away. BUT ANYWAY.)

He mocked Jon for making choices, as if to blame him, then ensured Jon would do what he wanted by trading Martin away at the risk of his own life.

He fought for two hundred years to make the Eye supreme, and when he succeeded, the special magical Panopticon nest he’d planned ended up being made for Jon.

The Eye cared for Jon more than for Jonah. (Yes, it could feel things, in spite of what Gerry thought, which we know because it was fond - a personal emotion - of Martin.)

I fully believe Jonah was envious yet resentful, obsessive and dismissive, fixated but loathing, needy and superior, all at once, when it came to Jon. If he hadn’t been conflicted, he would have tried to prevent Jon from coming for him… but he kind of wanted Jon to, in spite of any reason.

So instead of a practical solution -

(E.g. call in a favor from the Flesh and paralyze Martin, guaranteeing Jon stays in Scotland to take care of him forever)

- we get Jonah released from being the Pupil, pulled out of an insane Beholding-daze that was blissfully too much for him, seeing Jon, and instead of anything like, “What are you doing here?” we get this:

Does this seem like the reaction of a man who never planned to see Jon again?

It didn’t surprise him. In the moment before his brain came back online, he recognized Jon and wanted to tell him the wonderful dream he’d been having.

I don’t have the urge to tell people I hate my wonderful dreams.

We. This isn’t a necessarily sexual thing, understand; but it is a deeply human one.

Jonah was disappointed at the knife. (“Ah.”)

He pleaded to live, but not like one would an enemy. Even at the end, he thought Jon might understand.

And he was sure he did understand Jon. His last words? “Good luck.”

Absolutely could be a “fuck you.”

Or.

It could be a near-genuine wish from a servant of the Eye who knew how lonely being the Beholding’s own could be.

je concept: elias is a sculptor who falls in love with his creation

somuchbetterthanthat:

Anyway literally no line makes me go more insane than “The Chosen one is simply that… Someone I chose.” the INTIMACY, the ROMANCE, the PURPOSEFULNESS OF IT ALL. No, Jon; I don’t believe in any other fate than the one I make; and I decided you’d be part of mine.

klm-zoflorr:

beheldandcompelled:

The eye wanted Jon so badly because of Elias’ obsession with him.

Wait so. So.

If we accept this as true, which I think we should because it is based and real and good and true, the Beholding is basically a mindless swarm. It’s all feelings and terrors, it doesn’t think. It’s not gonna favor Jon for no reason, it follows Jonah/Elias’ lead because Elias is the one who’s been feeding it all this time. You can see it like Beholding pulls out of his subconscious whatever Jonah really wants and acts it out.

So. SO. Elias’ adoration for Jon was so intense it rung out more in the Eye than his own sense of self preservation. The Eye wanted Jon to remplace him as the pupil because he was so down bad for his Archivist it took over his fear of death. Jon was literally so important to him the Eye interpreted this as “need Jon at all costs, can even sacrifice me I don’t care”

Congrats idiot you bamboozled yourself.

What do we think about. A jonelias sharing pain au. "I know i'm putting you through the horrors for my own selfish goals but let me take some of your pain. No, I don't have a reason to do this. Let me help you"

i think yes. i’m a big fan of mind link (or physical in this case) jonelias scenarios.

i think in this one sharing the pain might be a way for jonah to feel more like a part of the ritual. yes, he orchestrated it, but jon got a more active role. elias shares his pain to mark both of them with it, to tie them together. they will suffer together and they will get their reward together too.

you can go further and make their connection more straightforward. for every scar jon earns, elias gets a matching one. i would say on his original body, but by this point there’s probably not a lot of… skin left.