July 2024

branwinged:

jonelias is incredibly funny and thematically compelling to me because of their character trajectories. like it starts out as twisted nbc hannibal season 1 psychological horror “you wouldn’t put a guy in situations” wherein elias runs his lab rat i mean jon through the archivist trauma punch card machine (“wind him up and watch him go”) and every day is tortured gothic horror protagonist day for him but he doesn’t quite get it yet. and then season 3 happens and jon’s a little further in the beholding’s grasp and he’s experiencing physiological changes which only elias understands and now we’re in vampirism metaphor territory, he turned you into a monster but he’s the only one who will offer you the absolution you seek! (“elias, am i still human?”) murderer mentor maker!!! and you hate him you HATE him but *will graham voice* where else would i go?

and then season 4 happens and audio recording by jonathan sims, the Archivist. point of no return. he’s extracting statements. he’s feeding. he’s unwittingly channelling elias (“you just need… a break.”) he’s scaring everyone at the institute, but doesn’t it feel a tiny bit good after having been powerless and at the mercy of all these other avatars for so long? and even then the only person in the whole world he can turn to for advise is elias because they’re alike. they’re mirrors. they were similar even before the beholding had its hold on jon, because to be avatars of the eye is to hold a shared, unabating curiosity for knowledge and both of them sought it out to protect themselves from the fears. why else would jon end up at the magnus institute if not for a guest for mr spider.

then there’s the panopticon reveal and turns out jon was trapped in a bluebeard narrative all along! but bluebeard’s just won. jon took the key and opened the door and found his secret but he’s not simply another victim, being bluebeard’s final wife means narratively distinguishing yourself from the ones that came before and he does. he’s the special one, he’s the archive. and jonah/elias says he did everything to free himself from pain and death forever, to free them both from it all forever. and he says “don’t worry, jon. you’ll get used to it here. in the world that we have made.”

and then. power dynamic reversal‼️now season 5 fumbled this badly but listen. the monster you created is coming down to hunt you for sport. the thing you created to escape annihilation is also the very thing that can end you at any given moment. “behold a god more powerful than i who comes to rule over me.” and then it’s “suffer for me, as i suffered for you.” and eventually they play out some equivalent of tackling each other off a cliff hannigram style. or dead ringers 1988. because they’re doubles they’re mirrors they’re shadow selves they’re the watcher and the archivist. conjoined. and one cannot exist without the other :)

somuchbetterthanthat:

Currently going through a Jonelias Renaissance after several months of nothing and god i want Jon to be Elias’ special guy. He picked him. He chose him. He thought him; this man is going to be the guy who will be eternally with me. This guy, surely, I can have all the feelings I want about, because he’s all mine, I’m basically getting him to be exactly who I want/need him to be –

and in the end he’s wrong, or maybe he doesn’t actually lead Jon enough because Elias likes more dropping little pebbles in the water and watching it ripple than like, privatizing the whole lake like the web is, AND YET, even at the end, Jon manages to be his one exception, manages to be special enough in Elias’ eyes that Elias is able to give him one last good luck instead of hating him or focusing on his death, which he’s literally ruined a world to escape in the first place.

I’m obsessed with it. I want Jon to be Elias’s exception for everything. It drives normal people crazy. It drives Jon crazy. Elias just stares at him and goes “ah, yes <3. My own little gift to myself <3. Doesn’t he look frazzled and angry today <3. I love him <3”

Elias is the reason why the Institute exists, but Jon makes sure the Institute has a reason to exist – when Jon is cut off from the Eye, nobody can collect statements, which means that there is no purpose to the Archives, no way to make sure the fear and the knowledge are pulled out of the victims properly. if Elias is the beating heart of the Institute, then Jon is its blood

branwinged:

jepropaganda:

Screenshot of a tweet from user Mb Bucks reading "me and my bitch don't argue she tell me shut up and i do"ALT
Screenshot of the magnus archives transcript, text as follows: Melanie: No! But the way I see it, the police seem really keen not to investigate crimes committed here. Elias: That’s actually fair. Archivist: Shut up! Melanie, please.ALT
Screenshot of the magnus archives transcript, text as follows: [Door slams shut.] Elias: Thank you, John. Archivist: [Hissed] Shut up! [click]ALT

interdimensionalbugs:

faustandfurious:

faustandfurious:

The inherent homoeroticism of killing your enemy and immediately regretting it

It’s about rage, it’s about obsession, it’s about making that two-person war your entire raison d’être. It’s about loving and mistaking it for hatred and loving and loving and loving to the point of destruction. His or yours, it doesn’t matter. And you think seeing him dead at your feet will make you feel better, but all you feel is a whole lot of nothing.

^ currently drawing more mag 200 jonah death scene and this is so accurate

jonelias fics are fun but over half of them seem insistent on making jon nothing but some damp wet rag for elias to maneuver, and making elias an all powerful and invulnerable super eye avatar, which kind of misses a big part of what makes jonelias intriguing in the first place- the fact that despite elias’s centuries of stolen life and manipulation, jon is ultimately more dangerous than he could ever be, and elias essentially has a carefully built but very thin leash on something that could rip him to shreds.

magpod-confessions:

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jonelias was such a missed opportunity. the entire core of the show and jon’s transformation was the relationship between jon and elias. jon is a mirror of his younger self and his greatest creation. jonah spent years crafting him into something he knew could destroy him, building his own god to worship. they were the only ones who could understand each other. and then we’re supposed to forget about it for bland miscommunication between shitty coworkers who don’t even like each other? fuck that. it was supposed to be tragic horror. what’s tragic about jmart? the lack of communication? what’s horrifying? the sheer dullness of martin’s personality?

magpod-confessions:

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joneliasweek:

Update: The dates for Jon/Elias week this year is August 25-31st!

We are still working on the prompt for J/E Week so stay tuned for when we announce those

kairos-polaris:

list of every time jonelias had weird sexless sex:

- early Research era, Jon went on a smoke break and Elias just happened to coincidentally pass by. he asks Jon for a cigarette but unfortunately he was on his last one. so Elias takes it from Jon’s mouth, takes one drag before giving it back to Jon and making his excuses. Jon was definitely normal about it and didn’t smoke the cigarette to the filter nor did he think of it as an indirect kiss. neither bring it up later and soon enough Jon quits smoking

- sometimes pre canon/season one they start playing a staring game. it happened during an Institute work party, their eyes met in the crowded hall and neither looked away, even as Elias talked to someone. Jon loses every time up until season two. late season three Elias starts looking away first intentionally so as to make sure Jon doesn’t see something he isn’t meant to. (they both aren’t happy about it)

- they are in each other’s space a lot, both during arguments and mundane conversations. Elias’s hand on Jon’s shoulder as he tells Jon of another complaint, Jon leaning in as he begs for answers, Elias’s hand on Jon’s neck as he asks Jon to take a break

- Elias cleaned and bandaged Jon wounds in mag 92, squeezing Jon’s burned just a bit too hard, he took in every twitch of pain on Jon’s face and the barely suppressed whimper of pain

- Elias watches Jon read statements. Jon knows it, can feel the weight of Elias’s gaze on his neck. he denies it that he is reading for Elias, he denies that he enjoys being watched as he takes in the fear of the statement

- Jon felt Elias watching him just as he finished taking a statement, the victim’s cries still loud in his ears. angry at Elias for watching him yet still not letting Jon see him, he didn’t notice a tape recorder click. Jon asked Elias if he could force a statement out of him, if Elias would be able to deny. can the Eye feed on itself? how would it feel for both of them? Elias shivered in his prison cell as he imagined his Archivist ripping into his mind, taking every secret he had. he couldn’t allow that to happen but no one would stop him from imagining, wondering how that would feel.

kairos-polaris:

list of every time jonelias had weird sexless sex:

- early Research era, Jon went on a smoke break and Elias just happened to coincidentally pass by. he asks Jon for a cigarette but unfortunately he was on his last one. so Elias takes it from Jon’s mouth, takes one drag before giving it back to Jon and making his excuses. Jon was definitely normal about it and didn’t smoke the cigarette to the filter nor did he think of it as an indirect kiss. neither bring it up later and soon enough Jon quits smoking

- sometimes pre canon/season one they start playing a staring game. it happened during an Institute work party, their eyes met in the crowded hall and neither looked away, even as Elias talked to someone. Jon loses every time up until season two. late season three Elias starts looking away first intentionally so as to make sure Jon doesn’t see something he isn’t meant to. (they both aren’t happy about it)

- they are in each other’s space a lot, both during arguments and mundane conversations. Elias’s hand on Jon’s shoulder as he tells Jon of another complaint, Jon leaning in as he begs for answers, Elias’s hand on Jon’s neck as he asks Jon to take a break

- Elias cleaned and bandaged Jon wounds in mag 92, squeezing Jon’s burned just a bit too hard, he took in every twitch of pain on Jon’s face and the barely suppressed whimper of pain

- Elias watches Jon read statements. Jon knows it, can feel the weight of Elias’s gaze on his neck. he denies it that he is reading for Elias, he denies that he enjoys being watched as he takes in the fear of the statement

- Jon felt Elias watching him just as he finished taking a statement, the victim’s cries still loud in his ears. angry at Elias for watching him yet still not letting Jon see him, he didn’t notice a tape recorder click. Jon asked Elias if he could force a statement out of him, if Elias would be able to deny. can the Eye feed on itself? how would it feel for both of them? Elias shivered in his prison cell as he imagined his Archivist ripping into his mind, taking every secret he had. he couldn’t allow that to happen but no one would stop him from imagining, wondering how that would feel.

sparky-is-spiders:

Thinking about Jon mourning his relationship with Elias and doing it alone.

Thinking about Jon having so many little fond memories of Elias. Discussions with him when he still worked in research. Little bickering arguments from when Jon was first promoted. His fondness for scheduling. Thinking about Jon missing those times so much that it aches. Thinking about Jon mourning the person he thought he knew, the person he did know, the connection they always had. When Elias is in prison and won’t even see him. When Elias is in the panopticon above the world, far away from Jon. Thinking about Jon still caring about Elias, missing him despite everything.

Jon would have all those little memories of Elias, I think. And he would pick over them, and wonder which ones were real (all of them, in a way), and which ones were lies (all of them, in a way). And he would never be able to say anything. Because he’s the only one who ever had that connection to Elias, and by the time Elias is out of Jon’s reach nobody who would understand is left.

Just. Just thinking of Jon mourning his relationship with Elias, and having to do it alone.

kholstomer276:

my dog jon agenda now on tumblr