Okay, so this has been bothering me for a while now, and I haven’t seen anyone else say it; so I’m going to put an opinion out there and say that Martin and Melanie annoyed me in MAG 199.

(This is also a bit of an analysis of the episode.)

(just so you know, this is very long.)

So first of I should say that I 100% agree with Jon, that they should have trapped The Fears in their world; so just know I’m probably being, at least a bit, biased about it. (not saying killing the world is good)

I think the best way to do this is to start from the beginning of the episode and work my way through it, giving criticism as I go.

It starts with them avoiding the question until Georgie decides they need to talk about it; this is just a minor nitpick, and maybe I misunderstood what he was saying, but Martin says this:

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Then later he goes on to say this:

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So which is it, Martin? Is it up to Jon or not?

Anyway, then there’s this little exchange:

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I know why Martin is so against it, but this just seems a bit obstinate; like I get it, he’s scared of Jon losing himself to The Eye, but you really want to go with The Web’s plan? You know, The Web, the manifestation of manipulation, the malevolent Fear entity, that Web? You want to go with that plan? Really?

And at least Martin has the excuse of caring about Jon, but Melanie? Why is she so against Jon’s plan? Is it really just because she hates him that much? The only possible reason I can think could be that she thinks that Jon will be selfish and prolong others suffering because she knew that he once hid the fact that he took Statements from random people, but even then, I don’t think even Melanie hates him that much.(Considering the fact that she didn’t actually think he murdered anyone, I don’t think she hates him as much as she says)

Next up, Georgie’s trying to talk out all their options and asks Jon about how The Fears will get out:

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Martin is, once again, being obstinate here; he is out right refusing to even consider Jon’s plan, making any excuse to go with The Web’s plan.

Georgie reiterates their options so far:

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Martin, you just said thousands of worlds don’t matter “cosmically speaking” by your own logic they should keep The Fears contained; because if thousands of worlds aren’t “even a drop in the bucket” then their world is hardly even a molecule.

Melanie’s in denial or something, because any reality with The Fears, even if it never gets to full blown apocalypse, is doomed; did she forget all the horrible things happening in their world before the apocalypse?

They have the little blame conversation, then Georgie gets to the third option:

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Martin’s just agreeing to any option that Jon doesn’t take over the panopticon; he doesn’t care if their world dies or a thousand others do, he just doesn’t want Jon to go to the panopticon.

Then they consider the morality of five people deciding the fate of the world, leading to this conversation:

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Despite what Martin says, yes, he is okay with thousands more suffering where he can’t hear; the excuse of saying it’ll be like before the apocalypse makes it sound like their world was good before. Their world was full of horrors before, where people could get eaten by monsters just for having bad luck, and Martin’s okay with giving that to thousands of other worlds.

I’ll put the rest of this conversation in before I continue:

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I put (mostly) the whole thing because I wanted the full context, this is the main thing I wanted to talk about; so they’re debating if their world is The Fears original world or not. Would killing them here kill them for good? yes, and if they thought it over longer they would have realized it; Melanie and Martin are arguing that The Fears were in their world for centuries before they managed a ritual, but now it knows how to make a successful ritual and escape it. what’s to stop it from preforming a ritual, waiting for it to start running dry, then leaving to a new reality? (I say “it” because The Fears are one entity [kinda] with The Web as it’s brain)

Melanie is victim-blaming thousands of other people to justify sending The fears to them; “if a apocalypse happens to them it’s their fault they couldn’t outsmart the embodiment of manipulation, so lets follow said embodiment of manipulation’s plan, yeah?

(As a side note, one thing that confuses me is why they think The Fears can go to so many worlds, do they mean at once? Will The Fears multiply? Because how would they get to multiple worlds at once, they need to be together, that’s why the rituals never worked, it had to be all of them. I always assumed it meant it could hop from one world and then the next when that one got dry. [like a spider on a web, it can travel between each point, but it can’t be everywhere at once])

Jon puts the idea of killing the world faster out there:

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No, they’ll actually have less of a chance, cause now The Web knows what to do. Basira doesn’t want to hear Jon justify killing their world but will justify sending the same circumstances to thousands of other worlds.

That’s basically the end of the discussion, next is Georgie talking to Jon:

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At the very least, Georgie knew that Jon wasn’t going to follow the plan. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that she takes the lighter and immediately follows with an apology; Also she admits Jon couldn’t outsmart The Web and it led to the apocalypse, but still goes along with it’s plan. (Maybe she just accepts they shouldn’t bother trying to outsmart it.)

and now to Martin and Jon’s conversation

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I kinda do Martin.

(Others have talked about Martin crushing Jon’s flowershop/barista fantasy, so I’m not going to talk about it.)

Martin just annoys me in this scene to be honest ”well, Jon, you promised not to do anything stupid; oh, and look, here’s a plan given to us on silver platter by, none other than, The Web, you know, the one who caused this and traumatized you since you were 8, yeah lets do that. Don’t worry Jon, we’ll fix this…pass it on? Don’t be silly Jon, I’m sure The Web gave us this plan out of the goodness of it’s nonexistent heart.“

Anyways I’ll wrap this up in a minute, but first, one last thing:

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I’ve seen others say this, but why would Martin killing Jonah stop Jon from taking his place? Especially if Jon’s standing 10 feet away; if the idea is that whoever kills Jonah will take his place then Martin would just become the very thing he thinks Jon will turn into. And if you think it’s because Martin’s not tied to The Eye, you’d be wrong, Martin being tied to The Eye is the whole reason Peter wanted Martin to kill Jonah in season 4. If anyone should kill Jonah, it’d be Georgie because she’s the only one not tied to The Eye.

Now, just to be clear, I’m not saying that any of this is bad; I just haven’t seen anyone talk about it. I’m not saying that the others were wrong for choosing The Web’s plan, (ok, maybe I am a little) it’s not like I have to decide the fate of my, and many other’s, world(s).

I just feel like I’ve seen a lot of people hold the other characters up on a pedestal while Jon’s idea is regarded as the worse possible thing out there (again, not saying his idea was good, just the best out of bad options.)

And just so you know, I’m not saying Martin is selfish for wanting Jon to be safe, I’m mostly just annoyed that he hides it under the guise of caring about humanity (No, I’m not saying he doesn’t care about humanity, just that he’d rather "save” Jon than consider the consequences of releasing The Fears) and most people take it at face value.

I have a lot more I could say about the morality of all the characters, but that’s another post, if you actually read this whole thing, then congratulations, for sitting through my very long, hopefully intelligible, post. (I’d love to hear what your thoughts are on the episode [or this post])