March 2024

levaagrace:

levaagrace:

If you make a joke about ‘Elias Bouchard’ and Peter Lukas being ex-husbands or what the fuck ever, I automatically will dismiss every thing you have to say about The Magnus Archives. Period. It’s a stupid and tired joke. Same with the fucking kayak jokes. Die.

Adding the ‘Jon had a band in university that was the Mechanisms’ to the list of annoyingly pervasive and idiotic fanon in-jokes that make me want to rip my hair out from the root until I’m BALD.

Now adding the “Jonny only has one name he uses and it’s Michael” to this roster. Stop beating a dead horse you’re just digging a hole now shut the fuck up.

shizucheese:

Hey guys, we need to talk. Because a certain little something in TMAGP 8 is causing what is genuinely the most toxic part of the Magpod fandom at large to once again rear its ugly head.

So let’s talk about podcast character appearance head canons, shall we?

I’m tagging this with the Magnus Archives, TMA and Magpod tags because I am absolutely calling all of you out, but if you don’t want spoilers for The Magnus Protocol episode 8 then stop reading right now.

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Okay, so, Gerry exists in the TMAGP universe. He’s happy (or at least acts cheerful). And some people have headcanoned this to mean that he is no longer goth, or at the very least isn’t dying his hair black with bad box color.

And other people have decided to get seriously agro over this. I have literally seen with my very own eyeballs someone call “un-gothing” Gerry a “hate crime” and calling the person they were talking to “gothphobic.”

Let me make this absolutely clear for all of you: podcasts are a purely audio medium and unless a physical trait of theirs is explicitely stated, everyone’s headcanon for how a character appears is valid.

Goth TMAGP Gerry is valid.

But also

Rainbow Goth TMAGP Gerry is valid.

Pastel Goth TMAGP Gerry is valid.

Not Goth At All TMAGP Gerry is valid.

Bald Gerry who has actually gotten his brain cancer diagnosed in time and is getting treated for it is valid.

Somebody’s headcanon of a character that has no canonical description to them, or whose headcanon matches the few crumbs of canonical description we have but otherwise doesn’t look the way you imagine them to, is not going to take away from your own headcanon of what a character looks like. If someone imagining or drawing a character looking a different way from how you imagine them looking somehow takes away from your enjoyment of the fandom or otherwise makes you feel like you need to barge in and tell them that they’re Wrong and need to conform to your headcanon or else, that is a reflection on you, not them.

And this problem way predates TMAGP, let alone TMAGP 8.

The only description we have of John is that he is in his early 30’s and has prematurely greying hair.

If someone thinks he looks like the pastiest motherfucker to ever dwell in a basement, an extra-in-the-Adam’s Family or Tim Burtan protagonist of a man, let them.

What’s that? You want to tell them that John is BROWN and if they don’t headcanon him looking that way they’re WRONG and RACIST? Back away from the keyboard and go outside.

(Ironically, as someone who started getting grey hairs in my hair in my 20’s myself, I’m pretty sure everyone’s headcanon of John, with tiny little whisps of grey in his hair, is wrong, because if he was so grey that people were surprised to learn he was “a child of the 90’s,” he was probably full on salt-and-pepper when he was in his 20’s.)

The only description we have for Martin is that he (man who canonically has the self esteem of a used doormat) describes himself as “not the smallest guy”, Not-Sasha called him “roomy”, Melanie is skinner than him, and Jonny said he imagined him as a “bigger guy” who would beat Alex in a physical fight.

If someone decides to take this information and conclude that it means he’s tall, broad and has muscle, rather than that he’s overweight, fucking let them.

If your first instinct to this is to run to your keyboard and call them “fatphobic” or otherwise bash them for it, I once again urge you to back away from your keyboard and go outside.

Someone headcanons Basira not wearing a headscarf? We have exactly 0 canonical physical description of her and the people who headcanon her as having one are basing that purely off of her name alone. Fucking let them.

Someone headcanons Melanie and/ or Georgie as a skin color you don’t agree with or a hairstyle you don’t like? Fucking let them.

As long as someone’s headcanon of a character’s description doesn’t contradict the few canonical descriptions we have of a character, why do you care? Them having a different headcanon from you doesn’t take away your right to imagine the characters looking however you like, anymore than it should take away their right to do the same. Someone headcanoning John as white (or Black, or Asian, or Mixed, or whatever) isn’t going to make all of the fanart of John as brown with long hair suddenly disappear, nor the fanfiction describing him as such (although I do often wonder if the opposite is not true; is the fact that John looks the same in so much of the fanart I see on here really because of fandom “consensus”, or is it because people are absolutely awful to anyone who draws him Different?). Someone headcanoning Martin as not fat isn’t going to make the mountains of fanart of him as a fluffy little marshmallow vanish into the void (although I do remember hearing about someone getting bullied off the internet for daring to draw Martin as not fat). And someone headcanoning Gerry in TMAGP as not being goth isn’t going to take away your preciouse goth TMAGP Gerry headcanon.

That should be part of the fun of it, shouldn’t it? Seeing what different images people have conjured in their heads of these characters we only get to experience with our ears, and celebrating the differences as well as the similarities? Why are we bullying people into conforming to one appearance of a character when no actual canonical appearance of them exists?

phantomrose96:

phantomrose96:

“I can fix her.” “I can make her worse.” ENOUGH with the awareness!! I’M an enabler who believes there’s nothing wrong with her!!

Help I’m an accomplice to manslaughter

mikonez:

hetslop:

im actually an anatomy students defender until i DIE they didnt do anything wrong!!! they just wanted to learn about the body they even WAITED FOR THE TEACHER TO LOOK AWAY before they adjusted anything!!! they didnt want to scare him!! they showed up every class and waited for him and paid FULL attention you KNOW if that man just stopped fucking judging them for not being able to get their hearts right the first time they would be the best class he ever had. they even left him an apple!! they didnt know apples dont have teeth its not their fault!! anatomy student haters dni actually

buildoblivion:

why don’t you listen to mag 111 and then maybe you’ll calm down

In ascending order

1. Tim. Was taking out anger better directed at Elias on Jon because he didn’t, you know, psychologically torture subordinates who got too uppity but ultimately had a very valid point about how Jon’s inhumanity made it difficult to trust him and his very continued existence causes other people to suffer also not obligated to forgive Jon for his shitty behavior in S2

2. Basira. Martin from someone else’s perspective, aggressively overlooking and excusing her partner’s crimes (despite said partner themselves not agreeing with that) to try and have their cake and eat it to.

3. Georgie. Establishes she is smart, levelheaded, and emotionally intelligent enough to deal with supernatural bullshit but then pulls a complete 180 in S4 and also has a massive double standard where she gives Melanie credit and support for wanting to get better but also punishes Jon by cutting him out of her life for *checks notes* being alive. She’s very frustrating but she does also own up to that and apologize and I will give her credit for that.

4. Melanie. Literally just wants to be mad at anyone but herself and refuses to acknowledge how her own choices got her into the mess she was in. She admits to Jon’s face that the bullet stayed in her because she wanted it and still continues to treat him like crap.

bluejayblueskies:

(i’m assuming this is in response to my ‘i’m still mad about how people treated jon’ post)

  1. i do agree that tim doesn’t owe jon forgiveness for the stalking, but i don’t agree with the 'jon’s continued existence causes people to suffer’ part of this. i’ll always be a believer in 'jon is allowed to be alive without being punished for it.’ (i won’t get into the inhumanity bit since i find that i define 'humanity’ differently than other people, and i think what you’re trying to say is that jon becoming spookier makes it hard for tim to trust him, which is something i would agree with.) i think a lot of tim’s anger at jon comes from fear and feeling trapped rather than actual hatred towards jon, actually, but i don’t feel much up to crafting an actual meta for that at the moment, sorry!
  2. aside from the fact that i don’t think daisy’s crimes (hunting down and killing people for years as part of the police and engaging in police brutality) and jon’s crimes (forcing people to relive their trauma against their will, but ultimately not killing them) are equitable, i don’t think that martin actually excuses jon’s actions. he’s the one who gives the s4 archives crew the tape with jon’s victim and thus makes jon stop taking live statements. martin supports jon in seasons 2 and 3 when he’s being hurt and tortured and has few people in his corner, but he’s also very ready to call jon out on his actions if need be. i don’t think basira and martin are very similar at all.
  3. i agree with most of this point! georgie’s double standard in s4 is very frustrating, and she does recognize at least a bit in s5 that she wasn’t the better person for just running away from it all.
  4. any time i think about melanie, i just remember how everyone (including jon himself!) told her not to get involved with the institute but she did it anyway (very watcher-aligned of her). her arc is actually one of the most interesting to me bc of how much anger and the need to claw her way to the top motivates her, and i genuinely think that under different circumstances, she and jon might have been the kind of friends who rib each other constantly but would fight god for each other.

bluejayblueskies:

turns out i’m still mad at how everyone in t/ma treated jon actually

on jon, addiction, and the hilariously flimsy illusion of choice

orchidbreezefc:

jonny sims has publically said that most of his writing filters through the lens of addiction, which he has personal experience with. that’s a very private topic and the details are nobody’s business, but this post discusses addiction (non graphically) as context for tma being–so it claims–an exploration of agency and personal choice.

for more context, relisten to 172, the statement about francis, the addict who’s literally puppeteered by the web. the entity that controls and manipulates people drags them through the cycle of abuse on physical hooks. it’s pretty on the nose! note that francis’s will doesn’t break, in the end; the spider physically moves their hands to force their relapse. it is unambiguous that francis does not choose their fate; a credit to them that the story doesn’t afford jon.

there’s never explicit confirmation that the web is similarly involved with jon’s addiction to cigarettes and then to eldritch voyeurism powers, but it is absolutely deeply involved in jon’s life. jon becomes dependent on beholding to survive in a way that, factually, isn’t all that different from irl chemical dependency. withdrawal from real substances can cease function of your body and mind. it can kill you and make every moment until then miserable. you might find yourself doing horrible things for your next fix, even hurting people–though probably not by personally eating their trauma.

but let’s rewind. if we’re talking choice and agency, the million dollar question is how much did jon have in what went down, most specifically the ritual? objectively: little to none. jonah’s plot would have succeeded eventually. if jon somehow bucked his plans, jonah would have tried again with someone else. as many times it took.

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radiosandrecordings:

I do not have the time nor the willingness to relive 14 years of Catholic school to write this but I can’t stop thinking about this one extract from the deluxe transcripts, the one for Desecrated Host. I know they’re not strictly canon, but we get some of Jon’s Thoughts On Religion here which keep rattling around in my brain. They’re mostly funny, calling crucifixes judgemental or saying he isn’t a fan of incense, but there’s one that sticks out. It’s when Father Burroughs is talking about how Father Singh listed all of his sins from childhood, and Jon comments that “Hm. Young sins can cut the deepest.”

Which! First of all! Wild thing to write down in your little blue biro on what is supposed to be a work document! But that feels like it has layers, intention or meaning behind it because no one just says that off the cuff. From both canon and the transcript notes he seems more jaded with religion now, or at least Christianity, but I can’t help but think of a young Jon, 8 years old and feeling like he has blood on his hands that somehow no one else can see. Like he’s gotten away with murder and it weighs so heavily on him he wishes he’d be caught, just to let up on the pressure of knowing at every moment that that should’ve been him. Sure, he hated that bully, but he didn’t want him dead and is this his fault? Did he wish somewhere deep down for this, a sick and twisted thing coming true that he’d desperately take back? In the books he read when the villain was vanquished the hero celebrated, but he just feels this terrifying ache in his chest, and wonders if this is just what happens to people who surround him. 

So he sits at the back of the church when his grandmother takes him on Sundays, and silently begs forgiveness. It’s not even that he’s thinking about some higher power fear of justice from above. He’d take that if it absolved him of something, repentance and atonement. He just wants to stop feeling like he did something wrong.