2025-08-11 5:18:17 ¶ ●

Y’know. Putting stuff in drafts and not posting them has definitely helped mitigate my worse impulses cause now I can just. Do that. And decide later if I still want to post them. I don’t actually have to immediately jump on every thought I have. I can be nonreactive.

2025-08-11 5:46:32 ¶ ● ⬈

martinblackwoodhaterfan:

> I’ve already said on here multiple times how Martin’s season 5 development was all over the place. But now that I think about it, Jon was also underdeveloped.

> Some time ago I’ve said that it felt like Martin was needed in s5 so that Jon, as an all-seeing being, could explain things that he knew to him and the audience. But besides the fact that he’s all-seeing and barfing up horrors and it feels even more awful than reading the statements, there isn’t much said about how it impacts him as a person. We don’t know exactly what is it that he sees, all we get is brief glimpses of horror that he describes aloud when overloaded with information.

> The audience stays in the dark in regards to Jon and his thought process. He doesn’t talk to the tapes about anything other than the horror surrounding them which is only needed so that the audience knows where the episode is meant to play out. and it doesn’t really have any importance to the plot other than to set a scene. Plus since Martin actively shuts him up whenever he tries to say something about the Fears themselves, we can’t even know any of the more basic info that Jon is said to be aware of. The audience is just suddenly locked out of Jon’s pov and instead we got the Jon-Martin relationship treating them as a singular entity, with Jon only filling the role of the “inhuman” partner.

> It’s like. Up to this point, the audience got to consistently witness Jon’s development. When we met him, he was putting up the skeptic act. Then we saw his fear-induced paranoia. Then he was staying over at an ex-girlfriends house and frantically searching for clues. Then was the whole operation to stop the Unknowing. After that there was Jon’s coma, and the audience got to see him be slowly consumed by his patron and be abandoned and hated by nearly all his coworkers. We got first row seats to whatever he was going through at the moment.

> But for the majority of season 5 all that we are presented with is the JonMartin apocalyptic hike, Jon slaying some of the avatars they come across, and Martin complaining about how scary it all is and how the avatars are evil. Maybe I’m wrong, but the only few moments the audience got to actually see Jon’s point of view and the self-hatred that being the one who started the apocalypse have forced upon him was when he got repeatedly ignored during the discussion regarding his life and the fate of the universe.

> Idk maybe I’m wrong. Maybe that’s just because I dislike the way season 5 was written. But I feel like in most of the episodes JonMartin were reduced to just being a couple.

2025-08-11 16:45:24 ¶ ● ⬈

toms-topic:

> Spoilers for MAG200

> I feel like Elias dying to a stab wound rather than Jon ceaseless watcher-ing his ass to oblivion is much more cathartic and satisfying. To me it feels like denying Elias that one last chance to serve his god while also showing said god turned its back to him

> “But I wanted to see Elias implode!!!!” Yeah well I personally wanted Jon to strangle him with his bare hands

2025-08-11 19:30:37 ¶ ● ⬈

martinblackwoodhaterfan:

> A very popular thing that I despise is the certainty of some fans that in season 1 jon was cold and unempathetic, and that he treated the people who came to give their statement heartlessly and cruelly.

> And that’s just not true??? He tried to provide them with whatever comfort he could in his position as an archivist, which amounted to him giving them space and cautiously offering to refer them to a specialist. He was meant to record, research and categorize their stories into little boxes. What was he supposed to do, say “of course I believe that you found yourself in an endless foggy field and the only thing that brought you back to reality was your dead husband’s voice” like that’s anything other than logically impossible???

> He wasn’t a therapist. His job wasn’t to try and make these freaked out people feel better. His job was to literally pick apart, sort and categorize their experiences into little boxes, which he dutifully did. He was actually quite a decent archivist, with enough curiosity to research the statements carefully, and enough cautiousness to not get killed in the process. That’s why he was doomed

2025-08-12 18:41:32 ¶ ●

Can I BLEASE get a supercut of JUST the statements? Even the season five ones! I want to listen to Cul-De-Sac and Love Bombing and all the other season four ones without feeling like I’m being psychically attacked anytime the metaplot comes in.

2025-08-13 0:46:56 ¶ ●

Working on something…..

2025-08-14 2:44:34 ¶ ● ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> I want to have fun now so poll time.

> What TMA crossover should I work on?

> TMA and Moon Knight [MCU]

> TMA and Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

> See Results

> They’re both just ideas with some random bits of prose written right now that I would create actual plots for beyond ‘Jon and his plus one end up in these universes as the elsewhere’, much like how I did with my Supernatural one. Which I still kinda wish I’d done more with.

Aaaand Moon Knight won! Unsurprisingly!

As with all my fics, the title comes from a song. This one is gonna be titled ‘sit with you and listen (share with you your pain)’. Stream Thumpasaurus’s ‘end of the night’ for minor context.

2025-08-18 18:33:52 ¶ ●

Man plans and God laughs, as it were.

2025-08-18 20:59:38 ¶ ●

Remind me to talk about how every person Jon interacted with lead to him being marked.

2025-08-19 1:43:54 ¶ ● ⬈

##

Hey, I'm someone with actual Learned Helplessness (and it's a thing I have talked about in therapy). And I love projecting that onto Jon. Please continue. You're doing great.

martinblackwoodhaterfan:

> Okay 💗 yay 💗 (I’m gonna be honest when I saw the beginning of that ask I thought you were gonna tell me to kms so this is a pleasant surprise)

> Anyway, since this is not something I myself have experience with, and the information about it that I do have is very limited, then I might as well be wrong. But here is how I see it:

> Every single time Jon tried to do something with good intentions, it either didn’t change anything at all or made things worse. Trying to get rid of NotSasha resulted in freeing a dangerous entity from its imprisonment, got him falsely accused of Leinter’s murder, and cost him his job and apartment. The first statement giver whose story he directly acknowledged as true, Helen Richardson, didn’t even get to leave the Institute’s building before getting “eaten” by the same door that had been haunting her. He tried his hardest to stop the Unknowing only to find out it would’ve collapsed on its own, and that Tim sacrificed himself for nothing. There are probably more examples but I can’t really recall any more rn

> Anyway, after trying his best to change anything then repeatedly failing, plus (in the later seasons) being hated by literally everyone he knew, I imagine Jon developed a belief that nothing he could do would ever change anything, and so he stopped trying entirely. I don’t really remember any of the s4 metaplot but I think this best applies to the Jon from that period.

> Of course later he found out that every singe action he had taken was influenced in some way by his boss or some cosmic being and that none of his choices were truly his own and that trying to fix things caused him to be the main sacrifice in a world-ending ritual. (There was also something in s5 about Martin insisting that they help the people trapped in domains and Jon refusing because it’s impossible/it wouldn’t change anything but he was implied to Know™️ that through the Eye so I dunno)

> This is probably all wrong but I don’t feel like digging through the transcripts right now so just take it

2025-08-19 1:45:21 ¶ ● ⬈

techniccolor:

> ALT

> ny-ålesund on wplace :)

2025-08-19 2:00:03 ¶ ● ⬈

forestkatart:

> hi quick question why is Jon being billow by most of the women in tma seen as a meme? I’m sorry but I can’t seem to fathom how a traumatised person who sees themself as being a horrible monster being reaffirmed that everyone in their life does think the same is funny?? Like it’s not as if he was in control of the situation or their circumstances, they just needed someone to blame! Martin too!

> I stand with my boy Jon >:(

2025-08-19 3:15:24 ¶ ● ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> Remind me to talk about how every person Jon interacted with lead to him being marked.

OKAY. So. To start. Let’s point out that these marks are mostly caused by, ostensibly, people who could be considered his ‘friends’. A debatable word, but. Here we are.

Tim literally got him killed in his suicide, so: The End. I will blame him for this because he literally didn’t care that he was going to kill not only the Circus/Nikola and himself, but Jon and Basira and Daisy. But whatever. He’s dead. Moving on.

If Sasha hadn’t talked to the Distortion then Jon wouldn’t have been marked by The Spiral and in her death he was first touched by The Stranger. I suppose I can’t REALLY blame her for them, as who knows if the Distortion would’ve left the Archives alone and there was still the matter of the Unknowing later. But whatever. She’s dead. Moving on.

Martin also caused two marks! The Corruption cause he was trying to prove a point (yeah, I said it, it wasn’t cause of no 'due diligence’, bite me) and then The Lonely. Which. Duh. Similarly in this case, who knows if Jane Prentiss would’ve left the Archives alone. HOWEVER. As I’ve said before. Jon should’ve left his ass in the Lonely. But whatever. He’s dead. Moving on.

Basira lead him to The Dark! She was guided there by fucking Elias and we know that they didn’t have to fucking deal with it! Like! Even before knowing that no other ritual would’ve worked! Manuela said as much! And the People’s Church of the Divine Host were all but dead after that raid that killed Maxwell Rayner. But whatever.

Daisy and The Hunt and Melanie and The Slaughter don’t need much discussion. One did it cause she could and one did it cause of self-defense. One is dead and one is alive. One can be blamed and one cannot. I won’t debate this. But I am still going to point out that these are people he had no qualms against – in Daisy’s case cause he had barely met her before going on the lam, and in Melanie’s case there was some contention but nothing worse than clashing personalities. But whatever.

As I said, we can view Jude Perry’s marking him with The Desolation and Mike Crew’s marking him with The Vast as his 'fault’. He didn’t have to talk to Jude who had him talk to Mike. The only reason, though, that he did, was because he was being dangled a carrot that told him he could prevent untold tragedy. But it was still his choice, as it stands. But whatever. They’re dead. Moving on.

I suppose we could also 'blame’ him for Jared Hopsworth marking him for The Flesh and for going into The Buried, which are connected. He didn’t HAVE to get an anchor or go into the coffin to get Daisy. The only reason he did was because, at that point, everyone already hated him and bringing Daisy back might’ve made Basira hate him a little less. That and the possibility of suicide by cop. But whatever. They’re dead. Moving on.

Could you blame a child for being marked by The Web because he read a book? Could you blame an adult for being marked by The Eye for wanting answers about that experience? The show certainly does. But whatever. He’s dead. None of this matters.

What I’m saying, I suppose, is that there is only one* person Jon considered a friend who did not, in some way, contribute to his suffering. And that’s cause Gerry was already dead.

Moving on.

2025-08-19 3:43:58 ¶ ●

Honestly. In vomiting that out. I realize I really should refresh myself of seasons 3-5. 1&2 I’ve got down pretty well pat, but… ehhh… I like to revisit those statements.

Anyway. I have bound/printed copies of seasons 1-4. I’ll likely just read seasons 3&4. Cause of the fuckass ads clogging everything up when I try to binge.

Season five will be for whenever I hit rock bottom.

Again.

2025-08-19 16:19:50 ¶ ● ⬈

jjkyaoi:

> insane to me that the bad things jon has done are ALMOST completely outweighed by the bad things that the other characters blame him for. and he’s not even mad about it most of the time. somebody in the archives could stub their toe and be like fucking JON and he’d hear it and be like yeah….

2025-08-19 21:52:42 ¶ ●

I get annoyed by the fact that people will say about JMart that it was them ~choosing~ each other despite not being ~fated~ to be together and blah blah blah.

I get that this interpretation is how we’re supposed to view Martin’s ‘but we wouldn’t have’. I get that it was supposed to be him saying to Jon that he was fighting to be with him in spite of everything against them (each other included). And in a story about decisions, I can see how this would be meaningful and ‘sweet… sort of’. Choosing to love someone in a world controlled by fear? Yeah. Sure. Powerful.

But that wasn’t the conversation Jon was having.

Jon wasn’t fantasizing about some great love that transcends dimensions. Jon was imagining a life where they could exist without fear. A life where they still chose each other despite normal circumstances. Where they could get to have actual normal relationship growing pains not colored by their pasts.

Martin is talking about compatibility and the past when Jon is talking about living and the future.

Neither of them have had what could be considered unconditional love. But where Martin cannot conceptualize it nor give it in turn, Jon does. Jon can wish for a world not defined by his past while Martin can only create one that is.

This is all wrapped up in their traumas and is WHY they’re actually incompatible.

2025-08-21 0:24:23 ¶ ● ⬈

le-jardin-inculte:

> Melanie and Jon sniping at each other is giving me life, he’s such a little shit and she’s not having it

2025-08-21 18:21:27 ¶ ●

How y’all gonna say it’s a ‘deep cut’ when it’s the entire source of the cosmology of this fuck ass podcast 🫩

Bringing in Anya Villette should have been a given.

2025-08-21 20:34:15 ¶ ● ⬈

flipchild:

> Didn’t pay my dark bill so the power company shut my lights on

2025-08-21 22:40:24 ¶ ● ⬈

martinblackwoodhater:

> me when im in a centering myself competition and my opponent is martin blackwood 🥀🥀 him saying this to his boyfriend who’s hand is like literally burnt half off while being surrounded by people who are trapped in an eternal inferno with no escape is kinda weird

2025-08-22 1:06:13 ¶ ● ⬈

ceaselessims:

> georgie thinking about jon post-eyepocalypse as the winner takes it all plays in the background

2025-08-22 18:19:10 ¶ ● ⬈

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i don't like jonmartin

magpod-confessions:

> .

2025-08-22 20:54:54 ¶ ●

“Jon was unqualified for his position and didn’t deserve it. Sasha was. She should’ve gotten it.”

So you’re saying you wish Sasha had been isolated and violated and dehumanized and traumatized 🤨

Sometimes I wonder if Sasha fans actually listened to the podcast or even like her.

2025-08-23 3:12:38 ¶ ●

Sending Jon to the MCU to hang with Moon Knight et al and them looking at him like

ALT

“And people think WE’RE crazy?” <- Guy who is multiple guys cause of his continuous childhood trauma looking at a guy who willingly gave away two fucking ribs for what amounted to a single corn chip.

Actually it’d be more like. Marc nodding sagely when Jon describes the hour he spent trying to cut off a finger and giving advice about a better way to have done it or other options while Jake and Steven are in abject misery about there being TWO OF MARC NOW.

2025-08-23 3:27:30 ¶ ● ⬈

rynternet:

> isn’t it kind of funny that the only thing the desolation ever created destroyed itself? ￼

2025-08-23 5:07:36 ¶ ● ⬈

ceaselessims:

> do you think after the panopticon blew up and there were spots that never healed from the eyepocalypse that georgie became more like s5 jon? that she took it all on herself and blamed herself for the choice to pass it on since it didn’t truly get rid of the fears and now she has spread it to others? do you think she looks to melanie as a reason to keep moving forward? do you think she hopes jon and martin are dead so they don’t have to know that they died for “nothing”? do you think she was secretly hopeful that the archivist was jon and then sharply turned into concern because he shouldn’t be alive?

2025-08-23 9:11:10 ¶ ●

Why?????

2025-08-24 1:32:27 ¶ ● ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> Sending Jon to the MCU to hang with Moon Knight et al and them looking at him like

> ALT

> “And people think WE’RE crazy?” <- Guy who is multiple guys cause of his continuous childhood trauma looking at a guy who willingly gave away two fucking ribs for what amounted to a single corn chip.

> Actually it’d be more like. Marc nodding sagely when Jon describes the hour he spent trying to cut off a finger and giving advice about a better way to have done it or other options while Jake and Steven are in abject misery about there being TWO OF MARC NOW.

Jon reveals he was orphaned as a child as a way to apologize for seeing with MCU-ified powers what happened to them as kids and Marc absently thinking “G-d I wish that were me”, causing Jake to cackle while Steven is just like “Marc, no-!”

2025-08-24 20:36:52 ¶ ●

Headcanons that feature in any of my post-series AUs where Jon goes along with the plan and doesn’t blow up with the Panopticon.

Under Read More cause it got long. Whoops.

- despite my respect about how the sequel series establishes that they were played by the Web and their happily ever after didn’t actually come true, because it makes me happy to know they have no peace and may feel an ounce of the guilt and suicidality that Jon did, I don’t wanna play that game. I wanna play in a sandbox where Jon gets to heal. so none of that. canon is already doing that and, grudgingly, better than I ever would.
- I think Georgie would, in fact, try and make actual amends about how she treated Jon. I think she would see that he actually was trying and wasn’t as self-centered as she believed and would try to rekindle an actual friendship that wasn’t based on him being on the lam or her belief that he was seeking out ways to make his life harder. I think she would go overboard with it to the point of smothering him and his autonomy.
- I think Melanie would, seeing that Jon wasn’t as egotistical as she thought and was actually attempting to fix his wrongs, would eventually let go of some of her anger towards him. I think she wouldn’t view him as a friend or confidant, but would accept that he wasn’t the source of all her suffering and truly see him as ‘just some guy’ that shared experiences with her.
- I think Basira would never not wait for him to fuck up. I think she would always check in on whatever he’s doing and analyze everything she sees with the expectation that at some point he would show his true colors and reveal ill-intent. I think this would never outwardly affect how she interacts with him, that she would never talk to or treat him any differently than anyone else, but it would be there in the back of her mind.
- Full-stop, Martin and Jon break up like three months later. They yo-yo between blaming themselves or blaming each other the entire time for anything and everything that went wrong or goes wrong. They do not know how to not react like everything is the end of the world because they have no basis for their relationship not being tied to the end of the world.
- Eventually Jon just gets tired of everything to do with them. I think he tries, at first, to stop making any choices of his own. I think he goes along with everything they want [twice weekly lunches and Friday game nights with Georgie and Melanie at Georgie’s request, where they live and how they live and what they do and when they do it is all decided by Martin] and tries to keep what relationships he has because he does not want to make any new connections with anyone else. I think when the break up with Martin happens, however it happens, he leaves without any way to contact him. He burns every bridge he has and vows to never have any relationships of any kind with anyone ever again. Not just because of his view of being unworthy of them, but because he refuses to be used or hurt again and the only way to prevent that is by keeping people at a distance.
- I genuinely don’t see why people put Jon in an academic setting after everything is said and done. I genuinely don’t see why people think Jon would WANT to go back into academia after everything. Some kind of reclamation thing? I can maybe see that. In any case. I think Jon should work in a cafe. I think it would do him good to not have any position of authority or knowledge. A position where he can see the best and worse of humanity and get glimpses into people’s lives that aren’t colored by fear. I think he also should be able to complain about bad customers because he should get to complain about people without it being seen as a personality defect that he should be punished and dehumanized for.
- I think maybe eventually he would start to befriend his coworkers but in an opposite way. He’s friendly and cordial and kind while they’re in the cafe, but declines every invitation to any outside event and only minimally acknowledges them if he sees them in a shop. Something like that.
- I want Jon to maybe eventually get a girlfriend because everyone forgets he’s biromantic and that she’d also be ace but I cannot see him ever getting to that place with anyone ever again but I’m trying I promise I’m trying to get him there.

Okay. That’s all, I guess. Eviscerate me if you wish.

2025-08-24 21:40:52 ¶ ● ⬈

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It grinds my gears that the same people who are fiercely protective of jons asexuality and are the first to call out someone for not portraying it well enough are the ones calling elias "stupid twink that I want to kill" like are you supportive of queer identities or not. "They're fictional and it's just a joke" but its suddenly not a joke when it's about jon?????

magpod-confessions:

> .

Me thinks you’ve constructed a strawman in your head to get angry about and are also aphobic but that’s just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2025-08-25 15:39:16 ¶ ● ⬈

levaagrace:

> I can’t stop thinking about this scene. I can’t stop thinking about how this is legitimately just Martin pointing out that if Jon had just stayed dead or killed himself that the archival crew would’ve been free and safe and therefore the world would’ve been free and safe cause he wouldn’t have been able to be used to enact the ritual. I can’t stop thinking about how this is legitimately just Martin asking Jon if he would’ve stayed dead or killed himself had he known about the fact of the matter and in questioning him doubted his commitment to DYING for the greater good.

> Martin flat out told Jon to his face that the world would’ve been better off without him and Jon didn’t disagree. And then Martin has the gall to be shocked when Jon decides to kill everyone and everything just for the notion that no one would be in the situation he had been in that resulted in the rituals success.

2025-08-25 15:40:45 ¶ ● ⬈

levaagrace:

> “Jon has no empathy for statement givers in season 1.”

> So anyways. Jon did not inform Laura Popham that the majority of her recollection of the events of her sister’s death in Lost Johns Cave were verifiably false on several accounts with full evidence to back it up.

> Sit on that and spin.

2025-08-25 16:40:48 ¶ ●

I am so bored. I wanna talk about my fics but the embarrassment of being sincere is ehhhhhh.

2025-08-25 19:41:34 ¶ ● ⬈

levaagrace:

> At my most uncharitable, I wouldn’t be surprised if Martin’s whole ‘appear unassuming and bumbling in order to manipulate the people around him into doing what he wants’ extended to the supposed feelings he had for Jon and that in fact a huge part of JMart being together was because Martin saw Jon as a means to an ends (I.e., his very survival) and that everything he said to him during the apocalypse and whatever we didn’t see during their time in the safe house was calculated and when they were finally free of the horrors that Martin would’ve skipped out of town.

Putting my tags here verbatim as I reblog cause yeah.

2025-08-25 21:31:21 ¶ ● ⬈

levaagrace:

> So, like, is anyone gonna comment on the fact that Jon’s whole “I don’t want to be another goddamn mystery” thing might have actually had to do with the fact that the person that he saw die in front of him when he was eight died without anyone knowing what actually happened to him or believing that that’s what actually happened to him?

> Idk! Just trauma things!

2025-08-26 0:58:56 ¶ ●

Gonna maybe read some transcripts of seasons three and four tonight to feel like shit and hate myself 🫰😌

2025-08-26 2:21:18 ¶ ● ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> Gonna maybe read some transcripts of seasons three and four tonight to feel like shit and hate myself 🫰😌

Actually, which episodes should I read? I wanna read maybe five or something.

2025-08-26 17:31:32 ¶ ●

I’m gonna list my fanfic ideas and y’all tell me which sounds the most interesting to read okay?

Prefacing this by saying that any post!canon ones will be set in a canon!divergence au where they don’t get sent elsewhere, unless stated otherwise, and none of the post!canon facts we got from Protocol are true.

REWIND AND OVERWRITE

> Amnesia!fic. Mulling over what Annabelle Cane said about how Jon would be when they sent the Fears away. Essentially, after it all was said and done, Jon wakes from a brief catatonic state with no memories prior to his first day as the head archivist. Explores how he would react to learning about everything he did and was done to him. Still kinda conceptual. Multi-chaptered.

SCREAM, SCREAM, SCREAM

> The Great Therapy Fic! Jon goes to therapy to deal with everything. Tackles fear mark by fear mark. Basically forcing him to confront and deal with his emotions and everything that happened through and before the series. Still working this out as well. Multi-chaptered.

HAND IN UNLOVABLE HAND

> Season four canon!divergence. Jon is ready to end it all. Daisy stops him and convinces him that maybe they could both starve their patrons out. Jon mostly just wants to die though but agrees. A suicide pact and a road trip to the safe house ensues. I don’t know why I wanted to write this aside from just to explore their relationship. Multi-chaptered.

SPUN SUGAR, GROUND SPICE, NOT EVERYTHING IS NICE

> I’ve talked about this one multiple times before. Post!canon, Jon gets custody of his cousin and it follows him raising her and working at a cafe and healing over the years. Mostly plotted out but needs some refining. Maybe. Multi-chaptered.

AT THE END OF THE NIGHT

> Crossover time! Elsewhere is the MCU. Jon comes through as the Snap/Blip is reversed. Eventually finds himself working at a cafe with one Steven Grant. Plot happens. Really need to put more thought into this one. Multi-chaptered.

DOWN THE PANOPTICON AND INTO THE SEWERS

> TMNT crossover. As I said, imaging Jon being a spider mutant yokai hybrid made me white out. Have nothing regarding plot yet.

And. That’s it. I guess. There are a couple others, a few one-shots, but… idk. There ya go.

2025-08-26 19:35:50 ¶ ● ⬈

thearchivtheantichrist:

> ok so I’m gonna get very rude to martin in this one so jf yr a martin liker and don’t like heavy criticism, unhh dont read

> Ok so ive never been a fan of martin, but I think I don’t like s5 Martin the most. Now I’m sure you could come up with plenty excuses, some more valid than others, but he honestly kind of sucked, like, personality wise.

> Martin started most fights, and almost never tried to apologize for them, whereas Jon is genuinely, constantly apologetic. Martin pushed Jon to use his powers a lot during the beginning of the apocalypse. Martin blamed Jon—subtly or unsubtly—when his statements were unhelpful to their cause later on.

> And maybe you’ll say, well, Jon was so rude to martin before… well then Martin didn’t need to date him, like I’d be way less peeved if they were just two unfortunate people surviving together, but they aren’t, Martin chooses to be like this despite likely knowing Jon the best

> I’d argue if martin had been more genuinely supportive and not just surface level empathetic, Jon would’ve considered mag 200 more. And I’m likely wrong and bias, but still.

2025-08-26 20:02:22 ¶ ● ⬈

thearchivtheantichrist:

> Literally anything couldve changed the trajectory of Tma, but I think the thing that fucks me up the most, is the fact that I’d argue a lot of the reason Jon even ends up in that precarious place between avatar and human (”how much of you is left”) is because after all that time nobody, not even martin treated him like a human. Jon tried his damnedest to help, and persevere, and he did what humans do to survive, make bad choices. And everyone invalidates that. His needs, like statements, are viewed of that like a dog needing to be taken on a walk. His acknowledgments on his capabilities are never about him, and only the powers, the things he can take and steal and do, and martin pushes him to use the powers and yet is so shocked when Jon is more horrified with himself than when he started.

2025-08-26 21:56:49 ¶ ●

I really need to write this fic cause there’s two scenes so far I’ve written I think will cause people emotional damage and I need to inflict it upon the world.

2025-08-27 5:13:44 ¶ ● ⬈

niinnyu:

> Jon and Gerry and Jon and Gerry and Jon and Gerry

2025-08-27 16:45:36 ¶ ● ⬈

yoki-loves-stars:

> ## Very real Jon and Agnes parallels trust

> Tma spoilers up to mag200!

> Starting from their childhood. Both of them were outcasts with dead parents, raised by people, who hadn’t really known how to handle them properly.

> Jon was a “difficult child”, who often would wander off without any warning, who was hard to keep still and obedient, who often would talk back and would take any criticism very personally. Raised by his grandmother, who was already grieving her son and daughter in law, who already raised her own children, now having to deal with a young kid, she had practically no idea how to handle, and not having any friends, he, naturally, grew up very lonely.

> Agnes as a child would have frequent outbursts sometimes even causing death in the cult. She also was a "difficult child”, but, in this case, both by being a child and being a god.

> While Jon had a traumatic experience as a kid, that was tied to the Web, Agnes has been surrounded by the Web’s servants and victims almost her entire childhood. By saving Ivo Lensik and killing Raymond Fielding I think it’s safe to say that she definitely didn’t enjoy it, but i wouldn’t say she was traumatised by it. Instead it was probably very lonely.

> Then we move on to their adulthood. One of theirs main themes is craving humanity, while not being fully human, and being gods in a way.

> Agnes tries to simply mimic people around her to try and “fit in”, without really understanding why they do what they do, to pretend to be human, a person, someone with the most ordinary life.

> Jon, on the other hand, tries to prove that he is still human. He’s ashamed to be not human, to have any sort of power. He wants to be human so badly, but he barely knows what humanity is for him. Of course, he’s not physically human anymore, but what makes him convinced of his lost humanity, is how other people view him. (I do have a huge analysis of Jon, that talks about his humanity in depth so you can check it out if you want!)

> But even before that Jon did show signs of being misunderstood as a human. Both Jon and Agnes were still very much outcasts even as they grew up. Honestly this part very much seems like something Martin could say about Jon.

> They both carry the burden if their destiny and their godhood.

> While Jon only found out about his destiny at the very end, for Agnes she knew nothing more than her destiny. She never wanted it, but it’s all she ever have known. Jon feels guilty and scared of his destiny, it’s something he genuinely hates. Both of them feel trapped by it and the world reminds them of it.

> Both of them are unknown despite quite literally having completely opposite ways of their story being told.

> Agnes is not known. None of her close ones could really describe who she was as a person. Not the people, who raised her, not the person, who was in love with her. She, as the chosen one, has no voice in her own story. People barely knew her, barely cared to.

> Jon, on the other hand, is the main character. You, as a listener, know so much about him, how he’s feeling, what he went through. And yet, while they are a few people like Georgie, Melanie and Basira, to whom he was a friend, who knew him, and cared about him, at the end the world doesn’t know him. Every single person knows him, some saw him in their dreams, but they only know him as the Archivist and nothing more. To them, he’ll forever be the Archivist.

> Lastly, their love and their death.

> These quotes are here just because I constantly think about them:

> These two scenes just seem so similar, especially, with the context of their destinies and how they feel about it. Again, Jack and Martin feel very similar, especially how they view their lovers.

> Something something your lover, who you often don’t really understand, who often leads you to wonder what’s going on in their head, to wonder how they really feel, dying by their own hand (/by yours when asked to kill them) after a kiss, while crying over you and feeling guilty for the pain they’ve caused you in this moment. Is this anything.

> I think Jon and Agnes are incredibly similar even if it’s not intentional. When you try to view Jon from an outside perspective you see how many similarities his life has to Agnes’. It all started when over a year ago I thought about Agnes’ conversation with Jack about destiny on that park bench, and just how much it reminded me of Jon and Martin. And then it all just clicked so here we are.

2025-08-27 18:04:37 ¶ ● ⬈

thearchivtheantichrist:

> im really obsessed with Jonathan sims and I think he needs to suffer more and in fact I think more people need to think on how if you boiled Jon down, he’s not just a wet cat, he’s also a dog. He is fighting for scraps of things he needs and he is seen as intentionally uncooperative for being what he is and needing what he does by everyone during s3 - 4 and like an attack dog, its made pretty clear the only thing he’s good for isn’t being alive, its being useful, and without that basira or Melanie would’ve long since put him down

2025-08-27 18:12:33 ¶ ● ⬀ ⬈

thearchivtheantichrist:

> thearchivtheantichrist:

> > im really obsessed with Jonathan sims and I think he needs to suffer more and in fact I think more people need to think on how if you boiled Jon down, he’s not just a wet cat, he’s also a dog. He is fighting for scraps of things he needs and he is seen as intentionally uncooperative for being what he is and needing what he does by everyone during s3 - 4 and like an attack dog, its made pretty clear the only thing he’s good for isn’t being alive, its being useful, and without that basira or Melanie would’ve long since put him down

> yeah he’s nobodys favourite anything at that point in time

2025-08-27 20:45:52 ¶ ●

I just think it’s rich that everyone in the podcast and fandom says that Jon needed to rely on people and ask them for help but also shame him for doing those exact things because of his abrasive personality and worse actions making it hard for people to empathize with him. Saying he needed to listen to others and heed their advice while also saying that those people weren’t required to give that advice or help him. Contradictions upon contradictions. And no where is this more exemplified in how Georgie tells him to ‘find an anchor’ for his humanity then tells said ‘anchor’ to cut him off immediately for that ‘anchor’s’ safety. Make it make sense.

2025-08-27 21:09:13 ¶ ● ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> I just think it’s rich that everyone in the podcast and fandom says that Jon needed to rely on people and ask them for help but also shame him for doing those exact things because of his abrasive personality and worse actions making it hard for people to empathize with him. Saying he needed to listen to others and heed their advice while also saying that those people weren’t required to give that advice or help him. Contradictions upon contradictions. And no where is this more exemplified in how Georgie tells him to ‘find an anchor’ for his humanity then tells said ‘anchor’ to cut him off immediately for that ‘anchor’s’ safety. Make it make sense.

And it’s like. It’s not as if he doesn’t eventually flat out ask them what to do. And what do they say? What do they do? Nothing. They don’t have any more knowledge than he does. But his choices are the ones that mean anything. His are the ones that have weight and the minute he makes the wrong one they’re in the right to shame him for making them. For acting at all.

2025-08-27 21:13:45 ¶ ● ⬀ ⬈

manueladominguezliker:

> manueladominguezliker:

> > I just think it’s rich that everyone in the podcast and fandom says that Jon needed to rely on people and ask them for help but also shame him for doing those exact things because of his abrasive personality and worse actions making it hard for people to empathize with him. Saying he needed to listen to others and heed their advice while also saying that those people weren’t required to give that advice or help him. Contradictions upon contradictions. And no where is this more exemplified in how Georgie tells him to ‘find an anchor’ for his humanity then tells said ‘anchor’ to cut him off immediately for that ‘anchor’s’ safety. Make it make sense.

> And it’s like. It’s not as if he doesn’t eventually flat out ask them what to do. And what do they say? What do they do? Nothing. They don’t have any more knowledge than he does. But his choices are the ones that mean anything. His are the ones that have weight and the minute he makes the wrong one they’re in the right to shame him for making them. For acting at all.

For someone who is said to have such a vice like grip on his autonomy and control over a situation, he sure ends up quick to relinquish all of it when trying to make amends for things he never could have prevented.

2025-08-27 23:57:25 ¶ ● ⬈

milomillipede:

> ## the mcdonald’s archives

2025-08-28 18:36:18 ¶ ●

Really big day for insufferable people (derogatory).