cecilos is what jmart wishes it could be if only jmart had the years of setting up the relationship + actually compatible characters + people who genuinely love eachother and act like it + a lack of physical abuse
shut up this is overdone im so bored of this it wasn’t funny even the first time and now it’s just the culmination of all problems with unoriginality and recycled jokes in this fuckass fandom
I love myself a TMA fic, but alas I am also a devout Martin Hater. I can't find myself any fics with the appropriate level of disdain/lack of involvement of Martin, for fics focusing on Jon without crashing out and it gest too hard to continue searching. Do you have any author/fic recommendations focused on Jon that either cut out Martin or at the bare minimum don't treat him like the second coming of Jesus Christ?
no i dont read tma fanfiction i dont like the source material enough at all and i especially don’t like the fandom it would be an awful combination
I LISTENED TO 173 AND 174 AND OH MY FUCKING GOD I'M SO DONE WITH THIS GUY. HOLY SHIT (pulling out the transcripts for this one)
HE CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT YOU DICK!!! he has told you this multiple times and calling him monstrous and essentially saying he's a terrible/shit person for not being able to do anything is fucking terrible and I think you should go die.
WHAT THE FUCK??? WHAT THE FUCK??? "Thank you fir not hitting me this time." AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE AND BE COMPLACENT WITH THE LIE THAT THIS SHIP IS HEALTHY??? HOLY FUCKING SHIT
the bitterness in Jon's voice towards the end... oh my god. it's so fucking justified because your boyfriend is using you like a tool (which is what I have gathered from their relationship in s5, it's just martin using Jon - to be his personal little all-powerful murderer, to inform him of what's going on from time to time (when he isn't electing to instead ignore it like an idiot) - and then ignoring him and treating him awfully for the rest. god) but oh my god jon's voice at the end there fucking breaks me because he sounds so tired and done with Martin's bullshit (FOR ONCE) but he shouldn't have to be. I'm so sick of martin and his entire character I hate him so much.
also he's always so annoyed and exasperated with Jon but why? he seems to constantly be annoyed and sick of him and I don't understand- for the most part Jon's literally just either doing what Martin tells him to, does what he needs to do, or talking to martin in a way that is so fond and loving and martin DOES NOT deserve it at all.
^^ especially in MAG 174
what the fuck is wrong with you? maybe because he doesn't want to kill people? because (unlike you) his first and foremost wish isn't to cause harm and pain?
why does he want to be so controlling? one thing that really got me about this episode and this dialogue specifically is that martin sounds so much like those cliche toxic girlfriends in american media, the ones that are super controlling and insist you're cheating/go through your phone/cut you off from your friends because they don't trust you WHY DID THEY MAKE HIM SOUND LIKE THAT???? this is not a healthy relationship I'm so done how does the fandom see them in a positive light? how can they be so ignorant?
and finally:
man :( man I really thought we were gonna get an apology- or even just an acknowledgement of his behaviours!! (not that it'd matter; he wouldn't be able to compensate for all the shitty things he's managed to do in JUST 12 EPISODES) but I was kind of hopeful! but alas. no. he sees a chance to shift the blame onto someone else and he takes it as soon as he can with a "(small laugh)" (even though jon willingly taking it is obviously just cause of his incredibly poor self-worth (which martin is not helping btw))
I'm so pissed about this :( I'm so not happy with this :(( why would they do this?? genuinely what were they thinking when they wrote s5 martin? they made his entire character so... malicious. I hate it, and I hate him, thank you for coming to my ted talk. (I'm really scared/sad to continue because I really wanna finish the podcast but I don't like martin's character at all and listening to him makes me sick and it ruins the entire experience)
there’s nothing more for me to add to this tbh but you’re so right and i have no idea how the fandom has such a severe misunderstanding of jmart as a relationship at all
imma be so fr rn I'm pretty sure the reason Martin is so popular as a character is just because jmart is a canonical queer ship
yep 100% and also because he’s easy for “people pleasing” gay+trans+‘neurospicy🥺’ kinda ppl to project onto so they can be like “heh! well his self esteem issues are enough to discount any genuine flaws (because that’s what written into the podcast) so mine must be too! ☝️😎” so that’s like comforting to them and their learned self-victimhood or smth
Sorry to follow-up on a non-Martin related question but how do you like Jared???? Maybe I'm biased because the voice they use for his episode in Season 5 made it literally unlistenable to me but I just don't get it
oh yeah it’s awful. terrible voice i just don’t listen to the episodes anymore so i can forget and also i think she’s fit. my pretty princess who did nothing wrong ever
Was this account originally a “normal”, personal blog that at one point evolved into the official Martin hateblog or was it born this way? Keen to know.
nope born this way. this is actually my third account ((before this was number1martinblackwoodhater and number1martinkblackwoodhater)) but ive never had a non hater account
I saw twitter discourse about you… I’m sure this is very scarey to hear but, it is okay. I was struck with a controversy of my own recently as well, having my little website posted to be mocked by the twitter user:
I submitted my little website, and was ridiculed!! By so many. But it is ok. I am trong now, and I have grown past this. Ans I know you can too. So do not let twitter palgue your psyche. You are are Tumblr after all! The perfect website to be yourself. Also I don’t know who this Martin is I think your ex boyfriend but rest assured I will not be supporting HIS presidential capaign ok…?
that’s actually so crazy omg. sorry to hear about your controversy you will rise above them king i believe. thank you for the support and no martin is NOT my ex boyfriend 😨‼️ he’s just a character i don’t like he’s not even real. sorry about your haters but remember jesus had haters too and but he was just a chill guy
literally how have i managed to end up in this situation. either your ex cyberstalker happened to have some based magnus takes or this is a hyperbole but omg sorry that happened but leave me out of it what did i do 😨😨
Imagine hating the only canonically trans character... (Alice)
guys stop focusing in on my hate for alice i wouldn’t even call it hate because ive literally only listened to like an assorted 5 episodes so like i literally don’t know her. im sure she’s developed as a character right now past her cringe overdone jokes and im sure she’s great or whatever. i won’t be listening so i won’t be forming a real opinion but good for her
also no i clearly don’t hate her because she’s trans i hate on many of the other characters ((martin if you couldn’t tell)). her being trans is cool and im happy for you gamers that you get that rep but stop trying to make me out to be transphobic pls pls pls
hi so you’re totally allowed to have your own opinion about stuff, good for you thats what the internet is for, im not telling you to stop hating martin.
BUT YOU HATE MARTIN KINNIES??? WHY?? WHAT DID THE PEOPLE WHO KIN A FICTIONAL DUDE DO TO YOU??
dude im really just curious what did the martin kinnies do you????
also different question, but have you only ever had tumblr for the hate accounts you ran/run?? have you never just used tumblr other then to hate???
because i hate martin ((esp fanon interpretations)) so i also hate people who act like martin ((pretty much always like fanon interpretations)) obviously?
((hate is not a word id actually use for real people obviously im just saying it because i like to exaggerate on this blog but like i don’t actually hate anyone))
especially because martin kinnies don’t even really act like martin himself they act like their idea of him. i don’t want to say really what i think because it feels mean to say in response because then i know you’ll probably see it and you clearly have some strong feelings. also martin kinnies keeping telling me to kms. which like i won’t do but it just feels like ya that could’ve been particularly predictable from someone who kins martin
and ya ive only ever had this account. id only want to post from a gimmick account because then ive kinda got most of the persona set up and there was a gap in the market for the martin hating gimmick
? no probably not depends on what you’re talking about
never met the woman personally but im sure she must be right about some things ((maybe she really likes pistachios or house md or something that’s so right))
I've seen the ask oneawesomebeetle sent you and i officially have been radicalized. Martin should be brutally slaughtered actually. Not only is he an absolute fucking asshole, he actively denies it. He should've gone and not Sasha bc then at least i wouldn't have to listen to his annoying voice make excuses for his own actions while simultaneously belittling and blaming his boyfriend for every little thing that upsets him
oh ok get it ig glad youre on my side there’s a lot of passion there
comparing yourself to branch implies you might have the capacity to grow and start accepting martin kinnies but i dont think you have that ability. your hatred is too strong
that’s true that’s true that’s so true. i could in fact do that but in fact i dont want to
He once slapped his boyfriend to get him out of his practically possessed state. That's not abuse ://
it was a completely unnecessary action and he absolutely didn’t NEED to hit him. he could’ve just as easily shaken him gently or even just waved a hand quick enough in his direction - we don’t know.
my point was that it’s weird that that was his immediate first thought when they had absolutely no time constraints ((because time doesn’t really exist there)) and there was no danger around to threaten him. my point is that that just isn’t a factor of a healthy relationship, especially when combined with the lack of apology or even real explanation or guilt from martin afterwards, without a conversation afterwards about it really whatsoever.
i just feel like it’s a weird choice to write in for a character like martin who’s meant to be sympathetic. it’s not like i can’t appreciate nuanced takes on gay relationships or something, it’s just that it’s a really weird choice to write into what’s supposed to be a relatively positive relationship.
it doesn’t feel like the behaviour of two people who love eachother, and i recognise the tense situation with the literal apocalypse because obviously im not going to ignore that, but it wasn’t a situation that required speed or panic or any quick, rash decisions. maybe even if this was portrayed as a hasty, panicked decision i could even understand, but martin isn’t worried at all really - he’s just bored. it wasn’t a careless mistake done from a lack of time to think, it was something that was completely unnecessary and then not apologised for whatsoever.
Jon’s little “wha- what-?” afterwards makes ME upset and im not even in the scene and i don’t love him and it’s also not my fault. martin is in the scene and he is supposed to love him ((well not really because they’re probably not at that stage in the relationship yet but like he’s supposed to feel something like that)) and it is also his fault, and yet there’s none of that regret or real apology or guilt that i would expect as somewhat of the bare minimum for what’s supposed to be the portrayal of a semi-healthy relationship despite their situation.
ultimately, i just feel like this isn’t something that would be ignored and forgiven so easily if it wasn’t a straight relationship, and wasn’t a character that so much of the fandom relates to.
if you have any follow up questions then please ask im happy to answer those too, sorry this response got kinda long and sorry i got kinda off topic!!
stop leaving hate in the character tags omg i got yelled at for that enough. people don't want to see that. stop reblogging my posts so the martin fans see them that's not good for me or them no-one wants that
Maybe don’t try telling me what to do? I don’t like you and I don’t want what’s “good for you”. Stop being so arrogant and passive aggressive first before you try telling someone else what to do with their own blog.
ok no hate i’m just genuinely curious: if you dislike tma so much, why spend so much time and energy posting about it?
i totally understand being critical of a piece of media, it’s good for any sort of community to not be one big echo chamber and it leaves room for good conversations etc etc. i don’t deny that the writing of tma is very flawed in some places (and i’m not too fond of martin either, just maybe not on the same level as you lol) but across 3 blogs and however many years, does it not get repetitive or exhausting to talk about something you might not even like that much so often?
ty for responding if u do ^_^
people keep asking questions so i keep answering them i guess. it’s more that i like having an audience and mutuals and stuff already when i post like art or whatever so i can ensure that no post will be an absolute complete flop. also like ive only been doing this for like 1 year max i think? maybe not even that. i haven’t counted but like this isn’t really a “however many years” kinda situation.
also ive got hate accounts and fan accounts of me now so like it kinda feels like ive made something of myself that ive gotta keep going 🐺🐺
I am a Martin fan and I can fully understand why you hate him, he frustrates me too, and for some reason I keep coming back to shout to the heavens about how he’s pookie
I’m curious, do you have a favourite character and if so who are they?
jane 🦠🦟 my wife. my beautiful princess with no disorders or problems.
Everything would've been so much better if season 5 never existed at all and we just got its dreamlike statements as a Patreon bonus
to be fair i did kinda like the more metaphorical statements in s5 and there are a couple of my fav statements in that season but to be fair i can appreciate this take because at times it did feel just a little too disconnected from anything. i might be biased because i didn’t really listen for the lore i just like the statements so like it didn’t truly affect me THAT much that they could be less burdened by like realism or what’s physically possible in the world. the dreamlike statements had their charm but to be fair they also had their time and their place and they did get a little too odd for my tastes. but like it was a way to do something radical and explore more situations so like ive gotta commend that to be fair🙏
just finished my second relisten to tma and actually why is martin such a fucking bitch fr 😭 bro stands around doing nish for 3 seasons with a cup of tea then spends a season following peter like a fucking dumbass being a bitch to anyone thats not jon the whole damn show like godamn 😭 then hes walking the fucking apocalypse like 'jon fuck ur morals u should kill avatars thier monsters never mind that we are both avatars also im going to slap u and hold u accountable for starting the apocalypse so its ur job to fix it not like u were manipulated' 😭 liek damn bitch fuck off actually
yknow what someone had to say it good for you i lowkey love you for this. i do always appreciate when there are people who hate martin more intensely than me it really makes me feel vindicated and less radical
Martin would definitely read those abusive BL comics with heteronormative presenting characters and romanticize them
He'd also think Heartstopper is the pinnacle of queer rep
i kind of don’t agree with this headcannon but like whatever makes you hate martin is fine by me at least it’s something new to the fandom i can get behind it fr even if like it’s kinda not in my interpretation of his character at all ✊
i really do believe his character could’ve had so much more depth if he got lost to the Web instead of the Lonely. like the Web’s got spiders, that whole puppet/strings business, manipulation and lies which counter’s Jon’s seeking the truth so well. AND jon’s childhood spider story coming up and then he has to go home and kiss his spider boyfriend?? mmm conflict anf tension.
whereas the lonely’s just like ‘BOO depression!’ like okay? me too but that’s not scary that js makes me wanna lie down
anyways if anyone would understand the potential martian blackwood could’ve had it would maybe be you. or maybe you js really like being a hater which i can also respect.
yknow what i don’t typically agree with the people saying he could be sexy if he was evil but like lowkey if he was away from and utterly unconnected from jon and the fandom was less annoying there’s maybe a possibility he could be sexy if he turned evil. i cant explain why rn because im sleepy but tbh like i don’t actually like web martin. i think he should’ve become a different avatar. no idea what tho
i drew the pfp (+header) you're using and like it's not like i actually spent time on it or really would ever usually care at all but can you like stop using something i drew to hate on me please? it's not even a complicated drawing like you could quite easily draw something similar or better suited for you in like 10 mins probably idk if you can draw but like omg leave me aloneee please please
i firmly believe we should have had more sasha over martin
tbh i so agree. i know nothing about sasha really because we’re not told anything about sasha really and yet she’s still a more appealing character than martin. also i want more women
First of all…. I do not “have” a pou. I don’t have children and, if I were to, I’m not interested in mating with another member of my species (the dating pool is very slim, and I prefer humans personally.)
If you are asking why I am bald, then I can tell you don’t know the first thing about pous. Listen: all pous are bald. Did you hear me? ALL OF THEM. EVEN the ones with hair… they are just wearing wigs. DUH! Like my clothes, having hair is something some pous choose to do to mimic humans, but they do NOT NATURALLY HAVE IT. And I am not interested in perfectly mimicking humans… I am a pou and I am proud of it buddy. So fuck you
if you don’t love me at my profit von capitalism fan account you don’t deserve me at my martin hate account ‼️
You must remembwr… if we exist only to spread hate, we will lose ourselves. What defines us. Constant hate makes us grow dull, and as such our rage dissipates. A true “Hater” cannot thrive without Joy. We must remember what we love, what we uphold in this world to remember what we hate, why we hate, and bring beauty to the world…
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okay,you hate Martin,but is there something(anything at all,not necessarily TMA related) that you enjoy?
yes many things. ive posted fanart for most of them..also ive watched like 5 seasons of house md in the past month so it’s mostly house md on the mind rn always i love house md
That one Martin Blackwood hate blog is my fucking favorite thing in the world I sometimes go and read his posts and giggle bc omg someone hates me so much he made a BLOG??!?? I am a fictional character what!! I love you number1martinblackwoodhater, you are my favorite person ever
Anyways, this is my favorite one of his posts and I occasionally pull it up just to have a laugh:
If you don't like TMA that much why are you doing this blog? Isn't that kind of a waste of your precious time on this Earth or some shit? I mean, hey, do whatever makes you happy and stuff, but why engage with something that pisses you off when you can just- live and let live?
no im evil.i want destruction and strife and wildfires on this earth.
