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You have some super valid criticisms of Martin's character and his fans, also I really respect the commitment to being a hater.

Anyway I started out really liking Jmart but it was actually through the process of writing fanfiction that I realized that

A) the ship does not work in a cute and healthy way. These people would not have gotten together if Jon hadn't been broken and changed by the horrors over the course of 3 years

And B) Martin is just not as interesting as people make him out to be. I can find all sorts of interesting things to dig into about the rest of the cast but Martin is just Not That Deep.

Maybe if he hadn't wound up the love interest something more useful could have been done with him but oh well.

Also when people hate Basira but excuse Martin it makes me want to get out the Raid. Martin took out his frustrations on Jon just as much as everyone else in season 4 but in a different way, at least Basira had more reason to be an ass and she pulled her weight. She worked hard to keep those people alive, and no she wasn't nice but she was dutiful. God forbid a woman do anything.

I have come to dislike the way the Fandom draws him as of late in that he usually looks too soft and baby faced. He's the same age as Jon, a grown man- so why does he always look younger than the rest of the cast?

I could go but no one has all day. Keep up the hating

literally omg people hating on basira for exactly the same things martin does to jon always makes me so mad because like not only is martin meaner but he’s also supposed to care about john whereas basira has less of a responsibility to do that because like she barely knows jon and also isn’t dating him unlike martin πŸ™„


also you’re SO right the fanon mandated designs always piss me off because they often make martin look so young and then also give john wrinkles and greying hair while like neither of these characters are even in their 30s yet?? 😭

like obviously people age at different rates and i mean john has easily gone through enough stress to have that reflect physically onto him (if that’s an actual thing that happens idk if there’s science there) but when they do this and then give martin like far younger features it just sometimes a little weird to me in a way that i can’t quite describe?

maybe it’s because this often goes hand in hand with designs making john vaguely brown, and it can feel like they’re using the designs in this way to make martin, who’s pretty much always portrayed as white, appear as more innocent or pure with youth

but also i may be reaching there or looking too deep into it im just putting thoughts down there idk it could also just be because most of the people who like martin are only doing so because they’re transmasc teenagers (and therefore are more likely to have more youthful features) who are projecting onto him