I read your post on the instances of Martin hitting Jon.

As someone who believes Martin was dreadfully close to being a Web Avatar and could definitely manipulate people, I agree. While, in my opinion, him hitting Jon was a very emotionally-driven, heat-of-the-moment type of action, I do feel it wasn't necessary to do so. While I do have a neutral/positive view on Martin, it was very interesting to read your stance and also quite enlightening. 100% valid opinion, can't argue. Sorry for this text wall by the way. I just like reading about people's varying opinions.

the first time yeah 100% i can see that but i also think that if he didn’t want to hit him then he had ample time for an actual conversation or just like even a thought towards how to wake john from his statement-trance without physical violence. like literally all they’ve got is time he could 100% have Not Done That Again in the future if he was so inclined.


(particularly because of the lack of immediate threat in mag172 and how he didnt try any alternatives even with ample amounts of time. he also notably was entirely unapologetic and uncaring. i think id recognise your viewpoint more if there WAS heat in the moment but like the second time he did it there was literally none)