September 2025

is there anyone you think the fandom mischaracterises more than Martin?

martinblackwoodhater

Honestly with how you hate everyone from TMA except for Jon you should probably just rebrand to TMAhater

why would i do that i love tma and also i love other characters other than john 🥀 the characters are NOT the main point of tma

also like johns not even my fav he’s just like the main guy

I secretly am growing to hate Martin just as much as you do...

The thing is I LIKED Martin in season 1. As I'm sure many other Martin haters would agree—in his first few appearances he was actually pretty fun. But then came season five, and immediately he became so insufferable and irritating and now I can't really stand him in any context. Which is a shame, but I can't help it.

The fandom around jmart also annoys me immensely too. People are just SO OBSESSED with them, making cute art of them in the apocalypse even though I found that entire last season to be so insanely depressing because of jmart's constant arguing (AKA them just consistently not understanding each other and their senses of humour, oh and of course Martin trying to force his boyfriend to murder people out of jealousy!!). I genuinely don't get how anybody saw that as cute. Even the person who recommended the podcast to me told me their arguing was just playful couple bickering, when it absolutely was not.

Honestly I kind of wished I had never listened to season 5. I would probably enjoy this fandom a lot more if I could live in blissful ignorance about Martin's true personality lol. As it is I have all of the jmart tags blocked and yet I still keep coming across them constantly...

lowkey real like i miss when i was also fandom brainrotted because like the idea of a like canon fluffy gay ship where it was all hurt/comfort and one of them was a cute fat guy and the other was this fucked up scrawny loser is like genuinely really nice esp when you’re like 13 like i was. like i loved martin my first listen and i got really into jmart (wrote fanfic and everything). lowkey kinda sad i became so dissolutioned but i just can’t get back into the fandom like that anymore

I wonder

Do you think Peter Lukas made Martin worse?

I guess it depends what you mean by worse?

i mean yeah i do think that his disconnect from people can naturally make him more snappy and abrasive when he does begin to integrate back into society (esp like with the worlds most evil boss and his situationship) and therefore be worse with people just by sheer nature of being so out of practice and having spent so long only centering himself and fully having to only worry about himself at all.

sort of a situation that he could easily take advantage of as this is an environment where he can feel morally righteous for not really caring about other people, which i do think could’ve been part of the reason he was so susceptible.

and therefore, after spending so long being encouraged and justified to act on his desires to ignore others and only focus on himself, it’s obviously hard for him to come back from that, and especially because i really don’t think he’d actually want to.