Two questions
Opinions on the MarTim ship? And if you could ship Martin with someone/something what or who would you ship him with??
1: involves martin so it sucks
2: why would i do that im not sure how i can make my stance clearer here guys i don’t like martin and i don’t want him happy i don’t want him existing as a concept and i don’t want him in any relationship i have to be aware of
broski gonna need some context here
ya what abt it people need to know im lurking im always there
(This is the same person who asked about shipping)
I said anyTHING as well as anyone, and nobody says the ships has to be healthy in any capacity
so many people ask me about shipping that doesn’t narrow down the context here
I didn’t realize my normal dictation came across as AI— That’s no good at all, I suppose I’ll have to adjust it to be more… I dunno, normal?
I’m getting carried away, my ask for you is a rather simple one! You’re dedicated to hating a specific character of The Magnus Archives, but other than Martin, would you recommend the series to a casual listener? I’ve never listened to it, and I was considering, but ultimately haven’t committed to it yet. So The Magnus Archives minus Martin— Yay or nay?
i wouldn’t recommend it but also do whatever you want forever i don’t care please
im still stuck on the very beginning episodes of season 3 because the fact that im going to have to hear MARTIN reading the statements and not Jon kinda turned me off (i think martin reads them? its been a month or two since i last listened to tma)
ugh you’re so real it’s such a struggle 💔💔
and then to hear his stupid little voice at the end of each one for the supplementals where he adds NOTHING and he’s also BORING ⁉️
Can I also have 10 million nukes at my door please. I also hate Martin but this isn't about him. I just think it would be very funny.
no why would i do that
some people called Johnny Sims a traitor bc he said there would never be kissing sounds in the podcast and then the final ep had a kissing sound and that was how I learned jmart kissed because I literally didn’t register it when listening to the ep. Jmart’s irrelevance is unparalleled.
ughhhh literally like why couldn’t they just kinda leave it out and also leave martin out altogether please please
Top 3 things martin could have done besides HITTING JON
1: walked away, has done this in other episodes
2: plug his ears, really not that hard
3: take interest in his boyfriends hobbys
In conclusion what the fuck martin
you’re so right also like even if he NEEDED to wake him up like he could’ve just… shook him a little?? or speak up louder? or just kinda wave a hand in front of his face. like there was just no attempts for ANY other option??
Look i can never understand how you or others can hate martin- hes in my top 3! But i also cant understand why somany people care? like- yeah not everybodys gonna love the same character and if you dont like someones take- block em- I hope you get less hate dude, people r weirdddd
it’s ok i actually get a little exited every hate ask i get because at least it gives me something to respond to yayyayay 💞
Martin Blackwood the kinda guy to be really into greek mythology but. He would water it down to "omg ancient gays!!! Man i wish i was alive back then, it was all so sexyyy. All the gods were banging eachother haha!". He would also say that if you like ancient Rome you're automatically a nazi
he read percy jackson once as a kid ((and mischaracterised it)) and then thinks he’s an expert. all he talks about is how much zeus sucks as a person and completely misses the whole idea of the like religion or whatever
Martin has the gall to paint himself as the victim in s5 when its Jon that got kidnapped, beaten, abused, burned, and assaulted both physically and mentally multiple times throughout the show.
Meanwile he just got depressed and had to work a desk job for a while. Peter Lukas didn't even do that much to him, he isolated himself because of his own decision. That man's hypocrisy has no bounds
you’re kinda so right and i think ill love you forever. like im sorry you had to isolate yourself a little and work an overpaid kinda easy job but like?? id do that too it sounds kinda great sign me up man please please
Martin fans will defend him with "well Martin is a well-written portrayal of childhood trauma and depression!"
Yeah i know. I'm not saying he's badly written, I'm saying that i don't like him. Just because he's depressed doesn't mean all of his annoying behaviours are excused by that. I'm not a therapist I don't need to help him improve. I think he sucks in general
It's not like I don't like him because he's depressed. I don't like him because he pisses me off
hmmm i don’t like him because he’s depressed.
(and also because he pisses me off ((abusive)))
I really like that one Martin fan who said it's actually good and healthy to bully Martin from time to time.
I'm personally a hater but I simply have to stop and admire their stance. They have achieved the golden mean, something previously thought impossible. It gives us hope for the future of the TMA fandom.
Peace and love on planet Earth. One day, the lovers and the haters shall unite.
happy for you with this opinion. unfortunately i don’t actually believe in nuance or compromise so the lovers will have to be haters to unite here. i will automatically oppose any martin fan soz
All of this martin hating business made me realize that i actually don't like any of the characters, not really. Jon's pretty cool but I'd like him more if he didn't deny his monstrous nature as much.
Elias/Jonah has that evil old man swagger tho. And my dearest lady Helen has never let me down ❤️❤️ the only reason i dont see myself dating her is because we share a name. Weirddd!!! I'd love for her to trap me in her corridors tho 🥵🥵🥵
oh ok hello to you too i guess.
Honestly yeah martin blackwood sucks ass. Hes so selfish esp in s5 and its just brushed off as reasonable! Also he just stays the same through the entire story. No character development no nothing. He just gets meaner
And the people who relate to him LOVE IT. Reminder that they arent that bad actually!! Its okay to be a bad person and never change bc you literally didnt mean it omg!!!🥺🥺🥺 youre just a cute bean thats allowed to fight for themself!!! And others obvi dont get it!!
yes yes yes that’s what I’ve been saying ‼️‼️‼️
I would’ve sacrificed Martin so fast for another ten seconds of Sasha. Or Tim. Or Gerry. Or Jurgen Leitner, I don’t care. I can’t believe we lost so many great characters and yet fucking Martin persisted.
mmmm imagine jane instead of martin…… one can only dream.
im still stuck on the very beginning episodes of season 3 because the fact that im going to have to hear MARTIN reading the statements and not Jon kinda turned me off (i think martin reads them? its been a month or two since i last listened to tma)
martinblackwoodhaterfan:
martinblackwoodhater:
ugh you’re so real it’s such a struggle 💔💔
and then to hear his stupid little voice at the end of each one for the supplementals where he adds NOTHING and he’s also BORING ⁉️
The Martin statements were lowkey a pain to listen to. Its his voice sorry! “Right, so i guess that’s it then!” No follow up? No research? Bro
so true like bro i get that you got this job through lying but at least PRETEND to put the effort in??? 😨😨 like is bro just getting paid to literally just voice these things now because like that is NOT worth a job 🙅♂️🙅♂️
Okay so you say all ships are bad if they have martin in it.
What if it's specifically a toxic one solely to make him suffer?
i don’t want him suffering i want him gone
Martin x Jared solely because Jared is homophobic and it would be so fucking toxic like yes king go bully the boyfriend you don't even like but can't get rid of because he's that much of a curse 🩵
i hate this take
1: jared isn’t homophobic you’re mischaracterizing him ‼️‼️
2: it wouldn’t even be that toxic martin would find a way to still make it boring
3: jared deserves better
4: martin deserves worse
5: i want jared.
6: they just kinda like wouldn’t get together and they definitely wouldn’t stay together because yknow why would they
Is this real hatred or is it for the bit?
If real, how come?
I'm not disagreeing or trying to change your mind, just curious!!
because i don’t like him? obviously? its not that crazy of a take i mean he literally hits jon when they’re dating for kinda no reason like i don’t get why people are always so confused about
Martin the kinda guy to say stuff like 'it's my fault 💔💔💔' and be mad when you agree with him
literally he’s so manipulative omg
Jmart shouldn't have become canon. it RUINED the fandom
i blocked the jmart tag and now theres NOTHING tma related on my dash..... tma fandom is all shipping and its ALL those bland faggots...... nothing else........
all the good artists make ooc jmart fanart and it looks so good technically but its painful to look at. They would not have fucking done that sorry not sorry. Get canon with it i beg of you
it’s all romance 💔💔 why is it all romance 💔💔💔
The TMA fandom being sooo jmart centric pisses me off.... yeah guys lets post about the cute romance thats in the horror fiction podcast fandom!!!!! Where's the fucking horror.
yayaya like guys the point of the podcast is the horror like we know that right 😨😨 like guys it’s a horror podcast not a romcom please 😨😨 guys guys please can you hear me 😨😨
omg can people PLEASE stop ranting about me on the confessions blog like please gang im literally blocked i won’t be able to see it 💔💔
if you’ve got a problem with me at least say it to me directly like I’ve got anons on for a reason stop crashing out where i can’t even look for it 🙄 then it’s just talking abt me behind my back and what is that ever gonna gain 🙄🙄
i just know you’re ugly as hell irl
can we leave physiognomy in the victorian era please this isn’t jekyll and hyde here 🙏
Everyone clowns on alex j newall for hating martin but that man was real as hell. Martin is an immature narrow minded asshole in the body of a 30 something year old office worker and he was painfully aware of that. I mean he did write him
ya but also no excuses he could’ve just… not written him like that
biased tho because i hate ajn already
Unpopular opinion: the worst thing about Martin are his fans, especially the ones who mis-characterize him
this is actually a very popular opinion for most people who can at the very least fathom the concept of hating martin. i also think it’s the wrong opinion.
People always like to complain about other fans because then they can cast blame onto some like nondescript entity and like a strawman of martin mischaracterizers so that they can ignore martins actual flaws as a character and ignore how much of a puppet he is as a character and how he flip flopped so limply yet extremely in s5 purely due to the actual writing
Martin was, in my opinion, kinda a bad character, but people don’t actually talk about that they cast the blame away from the writing and instead to the ghost of a concept of evil martin misunderstanders so that they can feel more intellectually superior in their own interpretations when the character can’t even really hold that much weight by himself without the people projecting onto him purely because of the way the writers clearly didn’t really understand where to truly go with him.
He was kind of a shell of a character by the end, just a distorted husk of his potential as a character, no more than a weird hypocritical confusion of ideas and ideals and motivations without real clear direction or purpose other than exposition and the idea of a romantic relationship with Jon and maybe some semblance of overinflated humanity he’s still getting snappy and overdefensive and territorial about ((because he thinks it makes him superior to Jon and everyone else)), but even that wasn’t really interesting 🙄
I admire your passion for hating Martin. May I ask at what point you went from dislike to pure hatred?
when i started actually trying to defend my ideas and then i realised there was actually evidence for what i was saying and he was bad in different and worse ways than just being annoying. i think it was when writing out my original post about mag172 ((the hitting jon event)) when i realised i was actually right in my takes and also justified
I saw you responded to a post suggesting shipping Jared and Martin by saying (among other things) that Jared deserves better. Is this just because you hate Martin or do you actually like Jared?
both both both always ‼️
i thought i liked martin as a character but then i scrolled through your page and read all your takes and youre so right im scared help
it will happen to all eventually
I would like to extend an apology. When I first found your account, I made the vapid assumption that you were a Martin hater just to play devil’s advocate or engage in counter-culture somehow and wrote you off. Now I think I’ve come to genuinely appreciate the work you do for the TMA fandom. You are a national treasure, Tumblr user martinblackwoodhater.
(Anon out of fear)
they are all enlightened eventually 🫡
reaching s4/5 and sending you an anonymous ask rambling about martin is a a canon event and one day every single tumblr user who has so much as HEARD of tma/martin blackwood will have to undergo it
its a burden i must bear… </3
((i love it really xoxo))
can you give me some information on ur martin haterage cause im all for it but i have no backing evidence ngl
it’s on my blog? you found my blog where i talk about hating martin what more do you want from me here please
I don't go here but your posts show up on my dash a lot and I wanna say I'm deeply amused by like. How many people just ask you why you hate Martin. I know why you hate Martin and i don't even follow you. It's on the blog
i knowwww omg i need to make an faq post but then i fear i wouldn’t get any asks at all </3
faqs for anyone too spooked to send me an ask about it: ((if you have any asks you wanna send then please do anyway don’t let this discourage you ‼️))
“is this satire?’ no
"why do you hate martin?” most simply is i don’t understand why anyone WOULD like martin or why this is such a radical take that so much of the fandom has this immediate reflex action to. he hits his boyfriend ((mag 172. i speak about it more indepth here: https://www.tumblr.com/martinblackwoodhater/773055587506438144/can-we-talk-about-this-scene-for-a-moment-because?source=share)); he doesn’t really add anything to the plot; and i think he’s a poorly written character ((arguably the basis of this post: https://www.tumblr.com/martinblackwoodhater/780170580054949888/unpopular-opinion-the-worst-thing-about-martin?source=share)).
“do you hate martin kinnies?” yes.
“can i make another hate blog of you?” i cant stop you so ya go ahead i guess
“can i make another fan blog of you?” i cant stop you so ya go ahead i guess
“do you hate jmart?” yes absolutely
“is this s1 Jon / Peter Lukas / anyone else in that vein” shut UP SHUT UP SHUT UP ‼️‼️‼️
“what’s your opinion on [any ship/character]?” i probably won’t have one but send the ask anyway pls <3
“do you hate tma in general?” ya kinda a little bit maybe
don’t let this stop anyone from sending any asks please please please they’re kinda the only things i check this account for if you have anything to say ((especially if you’re outraged or hate me)) then send an ask always they’re my life force
cecilos is what jmart wishes it could be if only jmart had the years of setting up the relationship + actually compatible characters + people who genuinely love eachother and act like it + a lack of physical abuse
does s1 jon run this account
shut up this is overdone im so bored of this it wasn’t funny even the first time and now it’s just the culmination of all problems with unoriginality and recycled jokes in this fuckass fandom
I love myself a TMA fic, but alas I am also a devout Martin Hater. I can't find myself any fics with the appropriate level of disdain/lack of involvement of Martin, for fics focusing on Jon without crashing out and it gest too hard to continue searching. Do you have any author/fic recommendations focused on Jon that either cut out Martin or at the bare minimum don't treat him like the second coming of Jesus Christ?
no i dont read tma fanfiction i dont like the source material enough at all and i especially don’t like the fandom it would be an awful combination
I LISTENED TO 173 AND 174 AND OH MY FUCKING GOD I'M SO DONE WITH THIS GUY. HOLY SHIT (pulling out the transcripts for this one)
HE CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT YOU DICK!!! he has told you this multiple times and calling him monstrous and essentially saying he's a terrible/shit person for not being able to do anything is fucking terrible and I think you should go die.
WHAT THE FUCK??? WHAT THE FUCK??? "Thank you fir not hitting me this time." AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE AND BE COMPLACENT WITH THE LIE THAT THIS SHIP IS HEALTHY??? HOLY FUCKING SHIT
the bitterness in Jon's voice towards the end... oh my god. it's so fucking justified because your boyfriend is using you like a tool (which is what I have gathered from their relationship in s5, it's just martin using Jon - to be his personal little all-powerful murderer, to inform him of what's going on from time to time (when he isn't electing to instead ignore it like an idiot) - and then ignoring him and treating him awfully for the rest. god) but oh my god jon's voice at the end there fucking breaks me because he sounds so tired and done with Martin's bullshit (FOR ONCE) but he shouldn't have to be. I'm so sick of martin and his entire character I hate him so much.
also he's always so annoyed and exasperated with Jon but why? he seems to constantly be annoyed and sick of him and I don't understand- for the most part Jon's literally just either doing what Martin tells him to, does what he needs to do, or talking to martin in a way that is so fond and loving and martin DOES NOT deserve it at all.
^^ especially in MAG 174
what the fuck is wrong with you? maybe because he doesn't want to kill people? because (unlike you) his first and foremost wish isn't to cause harm and pain?
why does he want to be so controlling? one thing that really got me about this episode and this dialogue specifically is that martin sounds so much like those cliche toxic girlfriends in american media, the ones that are super controlling and insist you're cheating/go through your phone/cut you off from your friends because they don't trust you WHY DID THEY MAKE HIM SOUND LIKE THAT???? this is not a healthy relationship I'm so done how does the fandom see them in a positive light? how can they be so ignorant?
and finally:
man :( man I really thought we were gonna get an apology- or even just an acknowledgement of his behaviours!! (not that it'd matter; he wouldn't be able to compensate for all the shitty things he's managed to do in JUST 12 EPISODES) but I was kind of hopeful! but alas. no. he sees a chance to shift the blame onto someone else and he takes it as soon as he can with a "(small laugh)" (even though jon willingly taking it is obviously just cause of his incredibly poor self-worth (which martin is not helping btw))
I'm so pissed about this :( I'm so not happy with this :(( why would they do this?? genuinely what were they thinking when they wrote s5 martin? they made his entire character so... malicious. I hate it, and I hate him, thank you for coming to my ted talk. (I'm really scared/sad to continue because I really wanna finish the podcast but I don't like martin's character at all and listening to him makes me sick and it ruins the entire experience)
there’s nothing more for me to add to this tbh but you’re so right and i have no idea how the fandom has such a severe misunderstanding of jmart as a relationship at all
Why did you make a blog to actively participate in the fandom if you hate the fandom?
because im evil duh
imma be so fr rn I'm pretty sure the reason Martin is so popular as a character is just because jmart is a canonical queer ship
yep 100% and also because he’s easy for “people pleasing” gay+trans+‘neurospicy🥺’ kinda ppl to project onto so they can be like “heh! well his self esteem issues are enough to discount any genuine flaws (because that’s what written into the podcast) so mine must be too! ☝️😎” so that’s like comforting to them and their learned self-victimhood or smth
Was this account originally a “normal”, personal blog that at one point evolved into the official Martin hateblog or was it born this way? Keen to know.
nope born this way. this is actually my third account ((before this was number1martinblackwoodhater and number1martinkblackwoodhater)) but ive never had a non hater account
I saw twitter discourse about you… I’m sure this is very scarey to hear but, it is okay. I was struck with a controversy of my own recently as well, having my little website posted to be mocked by the twitter user:
I submitted my little website, and was ridiculed!! By so many. But it is ok. I am trong now, and I have grown past this. Ans I know you can too. So do not let twitter palgue your psyche. You are are Tumblr after all! The perfect website to be yourself. Also I don’t know who this Martin is I think your ex boyfriend but rest assured I will not be supporting HIS presidential capaign ok…?
that’s actually so crazy omg. sorry to hear about your controversy you will rise above them king i believe. thank you for the support and no martin is NOT my ex boyfriend 😨‼️ he’s just a character i don’t like he’s not even real. sorry about your haters but remember jesus had haters too and but he was just a chill guy
literally how have i managed to end up in this situation. either your ex cyberstalker happened to have some based magnus takes or this is a hyperbole but omg sorry that happened but leave me out of it what did i do 😨😨
S1 Jon doesn't run this account, martins mom does. There's a reason she don't love him and it's not just cause he's the reason his dad left 🙏
what no im not her. so many reasons.
1: im a man
2: im not a loser
3: im right
hi so you’re totally allowed to have your own opinion about stuff, good for you thats what the internet is for, im not telling you to stop hating martin.
BUT YOU HATE MARTIN KINNIES??? WHY?? WHAT DID THE PEOPLE WHO KIN A FICTIONAL DUDE DO TO YOU??
dude im really just curious what did the martin kinnies do you????
also different question, but have you only ever had tumblr for the hate accounts you ran/run?? have you never just used tumblr other then to hate???
because i hate martin ((esp fanon interpretations)) so i also hate people who act like martin ((pretty much always like fanon interpretations)) obviously?
((hate is not a word id actually use for real people obviously im just saying it because i like to exaggerate on this blog but like i don’t actually hate anyone))
especially because martin kinnies don’t even really act like martin himself they act like their idea of him. i don’t want to say really what i think because it feels mean to say in response because then i know you’ll probably see it and you clearly have some strong feelings. also martin kinnies keeping telling me to kms. which like i won’t do but it just feels like ya that could’ve been particularly predictable from someone who kins martin
and ya ive only ever had this account. id only want to post from a gimmick account because then ive kinda got most of the persona set up and there was a gap in the market for the martin hating gimmick
Your hate for Martin is lowkey so vitriolic that it’s reminiscent of how his ship with Jon started…does this concern you?
no
I've seen the ask oneawesomebeetle sent you and i officially have been radicalized. Martin should be brutally slaughtered actually. Not only is he an absolute fucking asshole, he actively denies it. He should've gone and not Sasha bc then at least i wouldn't have to listen to his annoying voice make excuses for his own actions while simultaneously belittling and blaming his boyfriend for every little thing that upsets him
oh ok get it ig glad youre on my side there’s a lot of passion there
comparing yourself to branch implies you might have the capacity to grow and start accepting martin kinnies but i dont think you have that ability. your hatred is too strong
that’s true that’s true that’s so true. i could in fact do that but in fact i dont want to
He once slapped his boyfriend to get him out of his practically possessed state. That's not abuse ://
it was a completely unnecessary action and he absolutely didn’t NEED to hit him. he could’ve just as easily shaken him gently or even just waved a hand quick enough in his direction - we don’t know.
my point was that it’s weird that that was his immediate first thought when they had absolutely no time constraints ((because time doesn’t really exist there)) and there was no danger around to threaten him. my point is that that just isn’t a factor of a healthy relationship, especially when combined with the lack of apology or even real explanation or guilt from martin afterwards, without a conversation afterwards about it really whatsoever.
i just feel like it’s a weird choice to write in for a character like martin who’s meant to be sympathetic. it’s not like i can’t appreciate nuanced takes on gay relationships or something, it’s just that it’s a really weird choice to write into what’s supposed to be a relatively positive relationship.
it doesn’t feel like the behaviour of two people who love eachother, and i recognise the tense situation with the literal apocalypse because obviously im not going to ignore that, but it wasn’t a situation that required speed or panic or any quick, rash decisions. maybe even if this was portrayed as a hasty, panicked decision i could even understand, but martin isn’t worried at all really - he’s just bored. it wasn’t a careless mistake done from a lack of time to think, it was something that was completely unnecessary and then not apologised for whatsoever.
Jon’s little “wha- what-?” afterwards makes ME upset and im not even in the scene and i don’t love him and it’s also not my fault. martin is in the scene and he is supposed to love him ((well not really because they’re probably not at that stage in the relationship yet but like he’s supposed to feel something like that)) and it is also his fault, and yet there’s none of that regret or real apology or guilt that i would expect as somewhat of the bare minimum for what’s supposed to be the portrayal of a semi-healthy relationship despite their situation.
ultimately, i just feel like this isn’t something that would be ignored and forgiven so easily if it wasn’t a straight relationship, and wasn’t a character that so much of the fandom relates to.
if you have any follow up questions then please ask im happy to answer those too, sorry this response got kinda long and sorry i got kinda off topic!!