March 2025

Hi! I'm a jonmartin and Martin Blackwood enjoyer, and I just wanted to ask why some people don't like the ship or Martin? I know very well that people will have their own opinions on ships and characters; I just genuinely want to know why since I simply don't get the hate towards Martin. May you please help me engage in perspective taking?

biggest thing is that I don’t like when he hits his boyfriend just because he got a little impatient. you could figure that out by just reading through some of my account

also I don’t like your tone.

Why are you so passive aggressive jeez😭😭

?? either you’re mischaracteriskmg me or you don’t know how to use that phrase because I’m quite clearly just normal aggressive

You have GOT to post more. You're giving me nothing to work with 💔💔💔

There's no way you have nothing in the drafts. Pleaaaase I'm starving

you do NOT want me to start posting my drafts man this is all there is…

how do you feel about Martin fictives and kinnies? Do you believe that they’re just as bad as Martin bc they are based on him or relate to him? I NEED your opinion :3

well obviously I’m not gonna hate on fictives like why would i do that not their fault.

kinnies on the other hand are the WORST #not a fan. don’t like them one bit.

My best friend is very similar to Martin, similar appearance to the most common interpretation (like your pfp), and similar personality

What are your thoughts on them?

martinblackwoodhaterfan:

I don’t know? Mainly I have no idea what you mean.

I know a person like Martin myself - someone in a bad relationship with their mother, someone that likes to indulge in their sadness rather than try to improve their life, someone with an avoidant attachment style. I can’t always get through to them, and having them tell me of the same problem they’ve always had then turn down all of my attempts to help is kinda draining. But it’s not their fault.

The reason i dislike Martin isn’t because I think he’s a bad person, or that I think he’s abusive, but just because I find him annoying. He’s fictional - my role is not to solve his issues. I am only there to sit back and enjoy the story he’s in. And he pisses me off because he’s not my friend.

kinnies always take it personally man. like sorry that your friend is probably blonde and kinda fat but why would that even be included, like what…??

tho i actually would dislike anyone with a martin personality so like maybe im being hypocritical and my input is unnecessary

Its crazy that Martin literally calls himself out in MAG 186 and then proceeds to do absolutely nothing to change. You would think that a conversation with himself about himself would prompt him to come to a realization of sorts, but noo he's the victim as usual

omg i KNOW!! he’s so fallen into the trap of writing off all genuine flaws in himself as irrational self-loathing and it’s just so obnoxious

Every once in a while you get an ask telling you to go fuck yourself, or saying your opinion is invalid, or something in a similar manner and every single one of the people sending you these asks (that weren't anonymous) relates to martin in some way.

Conclusion: every single martin fan likes him because they relate to him.

Or maybe not *entirely* because they relate to him, but either way it plays a significant role in liking him.

Personally i don't relate to martin, and while i think his character is realistically written and am not really prejudiced against him, i find it hard to enjoy him as a person. He would be awful to be around and I'm not sorry

yayayaya they take it so personally because they have issues with their mothers (like everyone else in the world tbh like whatever man…) or like have weird obnoxious personalities and then use that to project onto him and get SO defensive

idk anything abt tma, i just know of it cuz my friend's a fan, but i had to follow cuz your account is so funny and i support ginger hate. keep up the good work!!

im so amused by this being about a podcast character that has no canon appearance and probably wouldn’t even be ginger

Martin’s the kinda guy to not wash his legs in the shower bc the soap runs down it anyways

bold of you to assume he showers

i genuinely don't understand is this page an ironic one or you hate Martin for real?..

no it’s not ironic i hate him for real. why?

can I just ask why you care so much

? because it’s fun?

Genuine question that's only about 50% defending Martin: what are your thoughts on the possibility that after experiencing a lot of manipulation and discovering there's a strong chance very little of his actions are truly his own, Martin does have a good reason to do the annoying "i am always the victim" self loathing stuff he does?

i can’t fully figure out what you’re trying to say (my bad oops!!) so if I’m misinterpreting here then sorry xoxo

and the answer to your question is like no not really. i mean yeah obviously he has a REASON to or he wouldn’t do it. i also don’t think there’s ever really an excuse for doing it if that’s what you’re trying to ask.

i feel he’s especially unjustified with how his mentality impacts people around him ((mostly talking about jon obviously)) and how he refuses to take responsibility for himself

I would love to hear your opinion on Jude Perry

never formed one. sorry xoxo she never stood out to me and I just felt bad for Jon in that episode

"What happened to 'Kill Bill'?" You weren't meant to enjoy it this much!" KILL YOURSELF!!! KILL YOURSELF!!!

yayayaya you said it #kys omg!!!

Martin Blackwood the kinda guy to sit down with you and talk about your problems and when you're done he would say "well, heh, it's kind of your own fault isn't it? I mean you should've tried harder than that" or "Yeah, i get you, but people have it worse yknow? You should just stop thinking about it."

sounds like someone said this to you and you’re projecting but tbh like i get it i also blame Martin for everything in my life live your truth xoxo

Martin pisses me the hell off. He should've stayed in The Lonely. At least then we wouldn't have to hear him wallowing in his sadness. "I'm so lonely.... No one really knows me..... I guess i deserve it...... I should've been nicer to my mum even tho she despised me..... that would've fixed everything for sure...... also Jon is a monster now and i don't like him" (literally him in mag 186).

He simultaneously hates himself and is an egoist and it wouldn't even be that bad if he wasn't such a mean CUNT!!!! "Oh yes king pop off! Martin deserves to be mean!!!" Yeah and he also deserves to take responsibility for that. But i guess he's the narrative's special little boy who can do no wrong, and so he is never held responsible and NO ONE calls him out on that because he's not a helpless cruel monster like Jon and hes such a supportive boyfriend because he makes tea and looks at cows or whatever. Kiss my ass.

And all fan content regarding martin depicts him like hes a fucking saint. Someone kick that man in the stomach and kidnap him a couple times and maybe then he would gain some sympathy for his boyfriend and would stop acying like hes better than him bc "he's morally correct" and "not a slave to his urges". Bffr

so real so real.

“no one wants to to listen to me… heh… I guess everyone leaves me… :)” i wonder WHY?? arghhhhh

if you were to fight Martin in a Denny's parking lot how would you beat him

those don’t exist here im in england 💔💔

also thats like a 2015 tumblr reference it’s making me nostalgic wow

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and your take on canon and stuff is valid. However, it’s a bit weird that you made an entire blog dedicated to hating on someone who is honestly half the fandoms comfort character. And update that blog REGULARLY. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to express your opinions, but it seems a bit much to me. It seems like you’re hating just to hate, Martin is not that bad of a character. It’s chill if he rubs you the wrong way, or you think his relationship with Jon is a little toxic, but the amount of shit you give to both the character and to fans of Martin is…icky.

i don’t care about your “comfort character” - he SUCKS.

also like “a little toxic” is so severely undermining the actual problems in their relationship (mostly the physical abuse) ??

i don’t know if you expect to change my mind here by calling me “icky” (like just tell me to kms like a normal person next time pls we’re all adults here 🙏) but like genuinely feel free to keep talking at me - I’ve heard everyone is entitled to their own opinions

when bro says “PLEASE ask” and gets pissed at someone for their opinions (not the same anon btw I’m indifferent about Martin)

well yeah because i still want people to send asks and am glad they do ?

i wouldn’t respond to the ones i didn’t want who do you think I am here. i love getting asks they’re my favourite part and I especially like the ones that aren’t just telling me why they agree where they’re like 30000 words long and leave me nothing to say 😇😇 ((no hate those ones are also good but omg like i probably won’t respond to them bear that in mind just quick PSA xoxo))

please KEEP hating on martin blackwood. he's half the fandom's comfort character and it's so annoying because none of them realize how annoying he is because they're annoying in the same ways he is.

thinking about jonmartin makes me feel so bad for jon dealing with martin. he's in a lot of pain that martin never tries to understand, only judges

you betcha captain 🫡🫡

and ugh i knowww 💔 I could treat Jon so much better omg

This blog screams "I don't understand lore"

well no it doesn’t mate maybe check out more of my posts. i talk pretty in depth about the things i don’t like about the lore (spoilers: it’s mostly Martin 🙈). just because ive got a more nuanced opinion than you on parts of it doesn’t mean I don’t understand 😒

Hi I know some people struggle with listening comprehension and would like to recommend the transcripts for TMA!! :) They're really well put together and I think they'd help you with mischaracterization and stuff

ive actually comprehended it already just fine thanks!!!!

there’s just no way you’re not being deliberately condescending here. babe i just don’t think you should go around talking to people like they’re lowkey stupid it won’t make you very liked. it’s not mischaracterisation to say that Martin’s a shit boyfriend when he spends all of s5 belittling and bullying and hitting Jon. like that’s abusive and if you can see that then maybe you need your eyes checked mate. or maybe your brain.

Your obsession with hating on Martin is so amusing, ngl (NO NEGATIVE MEANING)

I might as well create martinblackwoodlover account and we'll have the funniest toxic yaoi/yuri relationship ever lol

unfortunately that already exists and i think maybe they’ve stopped posting (or maybe i just haven’t seen it oops). there’s also a martinblackwoodhaterhater account but maybe you could make another if you wanted and then yayayaya evil yaoi 😇

how do i become as based and awesome as you are

hate martin hate everyone. dont go to far tho it gets awful. maybe stick with just martin and co 😇

not everyone’s cut out for this hater life and by that i mean no-one is 🙈

Hey! Seeing you being so annoyed with Martin's character (and agreeing with people's statements that some of the other characters are annoying too) got me wondering, what are YOUR favourite characters?

in the podcast? i don’t really have any…… 😨

Ah yes, when the man you love is so deep in a trance he literally can't wake up and danger is coming so you try everything to wake him up. Now that's abusive 👍

1: Danger wasn’t coming, what he literally said was “You were starting another and I didn’t want to wait.” - please relisten or check the transcripts before making assumptions so you don’t embarrass yourself. there wasn’t any more genuine danger than normal and there was no reason to rush other than the fact he got bored

2: He genuinely just DIDNT “try everything” - in fact, he tried nothing. he said his name and then decided that rather than make any other contact or attempts of any kind - which they very much had time to do and most likely would’ve worked - he just slapped him unapologetically. it could’ve been a sweet moment where he like gently wakes him up or whatever, and instead he just… hits him. that would never be my first action in a relationship, especially when it’s just so very unnecessary, so it just comes across as weird that it was even written in at all.

new favorite account dropped

srsly though, why is martinblackwoodhater so needlessly hateful….

martinblackwoodhaterhater:

i know i genuinely hate him so much. @martinblackwoodhater fall off bridge challenge?

?? me when im needlessly hateful ig

it kinda feels misogynistic the way you're always hating on martin (who is pretty much accepted in the fandom to be a trans man!) for inherently female characteristics and things afabs (people who are socialised as women) get mocked and insulted for throughout our entire lives

you genuinely cannot be real. there’s so much to unpack here i actually don’t even know where to start

it kinda feels misogynistic the way you're always hating on martin (who is pretty much accepted in the fandom to be a trans man!) for inherently female characteristics and things afabs (people who are socialised as women) get mocked and insulted for throughout our entire lives

martinblackwoodhater:

you genuinely cannot be real. there’s so much to unpack here i actually don’t even know where to start

ok I’m gonna try.

1: There is no such thing as “inherently female characteristics” so i can’t even figure out what you’re actually mad at me for

2: “afabs” is not a noun and shouldn’t be used as one, it shouldn’t even be a term and it is the bane of my life. if you’re going to be talking just about women then just say that and don’t try add a weird woke spin on it

3: im so confused by the clarification of “people who are socialised as women”. it just feels either redundant or transphobic in some manner or maybe both

4: martin is not a trans man??

5: i hate on martin for hitting his boyfriend. that’s the biggest thing i don’t like about him. claiming that that’s an ‘inherently female characteristic’ is not the feminist slay you think it is ??

I would love to kill Martin with a comically large hammer. He deserves a treat!

enrichment time!!!! :P

Not that one anon calling you a misogynist.. and their justification is transphobia. "I hc Martin as a trans man so hating him is hating women because in my head he's biologically female" ?? Ewww yucky

i KNOW omg…. 😨

just so many problems i couldn’t even unpack them all

Martin literally gave the archive crew the tape with Jon's feeding on it in s4. There's no way he didn't know that would turn them against Jon. But he's so loving and caring towards Jon throughout the whole podcast ofc!!! He's such a good boyfriend and always wants what's best for him!!

no idea what you’re talking about because i kinda forgot most of s4 but you’re probably so right ugh that bitch.

MarTim is the only Martin ship that could've actually worked out (provided Tim hadn't died) bc Tim is the only one who would actually point out Martin's issues instead of glazing over them

it would work for martin (no he’d get to defensive when people don’t follow his victim complex but i can believe a little) but omg poor tim deserves so much better 💔

Tim fucks cops for information I don’t know that his standards are exactly on the roof (not a judgement on him, fuck who you want king)

i never said he WOULDN’T do it I just said he deserves so much better and could do so much better 🙏

i always saw martin as representing humanity including the horror of it as opposed to the horrors of avatars/monsters that much of the podcast goes on about. hes not the initial thing that traumatizes a person hes represents the callousness towards victims who are now "monsterous" due to their trauma. he offers comfort sure but he never can relate and frequently judges jon.

like that was very much my take after finishing the show with how it framed elias/avatars vs martin/humanity as things for jon to chose between. and i was surprised to see all the dickriding for martin when i looked at the fandom because hes not meant to be a remotely good person. you should NEVER hit your partner idc the circumstnce!

yknow that kinda hell yeah actually i get the vibe actually. i typically don’t like any exploration of his character (it’s always bad) or anything that could be close to sympathising with him but you can live i suppose. notice how martin haters always have the best takes? 😇😇

Thoughts on MAG 186 (Martin's domain and heart to heart with himself)

so fucking boring omg. yet another cool concept wasted on martin - when will this end 💔

You are probably a loser 😡😄😄

KEEP your SILLINESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!

do you ever think about the fact that martin was intended to be web aligned. he was written that way and then the creators changed it because the fans weren't interpreting him that way.

really annoyed with them for that one. web aligned martin made so much more sense. I always found him to be very manipulative and then them making his whole lonely arc basically a metaphor for depression really made me hate him.

i knowww 💔 crazy how fans managed to fuck up the podcast so much tbh all things considered. consequences of 2020 i guess 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Martin Blackwood the kinda guy to be a self-proclaimed "gremlincore freak"

ya maybe when he was like 17 on tiktok

Literally WHAT was the plan for Martin in s5. He just turned back into the same whiny baby he had always been. His whole Lonely arc "character development" GONE. He's the token human keeping his monster boyfriend on a metaphorical leash! Relationship goalsss!!

i KNOW like cmon guys i swear he had SOME character before that but they just slaughtered him and tore off his wings and hogtied him ((metaphorically(unfortunately))) omg 😨

Martin Blackwood the typa guy to only like people who agree with him. That and he would take everything you say personally

me too tbh i can’t even hate him for that so real