May 2025

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just listened to 146 rn and oh my GOD i cannot STAND how they’re treating jon

HE DIDN’T ASK FOR ANY OF THIS! HE DOES NOT ENJOY THIS! HE IS ACTIVELY SUFFERING!

bassira needs to shut up bc she doesn’t know what she’s talking abt AT ALL

like has it not been established that he feeds on statements? he doesn’t just do it for funsies he NEEDS THEM TO SURVIVE

i’m not even the biggest fan of jon but oh my god they act like he’s some sadistic schemer or some shit

like yes it causes harm to innocent people but the alternative is him starving to death!

and he only actively fed off ppl when he didn’t have easy access to statements! it’s not like he goes out on the town every night looking for his next victim

jon deserves a year long vacation and a nap oh my fucking god

So true I cannot BEAR to listen to any of the s4 episodes because Jon is getting borderline abused in practically all of them

Everyone’s hypocrisy is pissing me the hell off, even if I can understand where they’re coming from. Basira shames and berates Jon while excusing Daisy’s behaviour in the same breath, despite both of them being the same! Melanie says it’s Jon’s fault that she’s trapped in the Institute, despite the fact she came here on her own accord and Jon wasn’t even present when she accepted the offer from Elias! Ughh it’s so irritating!!

I get it, people are not perfect and everyone in this show makes mistakes. Hell, nearly everything was caused by Jon acting irrationally cause he was so paranoid. But in the end, the podcast paints those hypocritical characters as good and rational!! They never had to suffer the consequences of their actions like Jon had to!! They just got to live semi-happily, no burdens for them to carry except some minor inconveniences maybe!

Also from what I’ve gathered the fandom doesn’t even allow people to criticise those characters. The survivors. You’re not allowed to whisper a word of criticism in their direction. Jon always gets shamed (even playfully) for being rude in the early seasons. People looove to jokingly insult him “oh he’s such an incompetent idiot!! Haha paranoid dumbass! He’s so mean ughh so annoying >:(” but when hes being hit from all directions by the only people left in his life no one even bats an eye, because then they’re such queens of boundaries of course! Cutting off the awful monster to preserve their own wellbeing! Rational and cruel at the same time.

I had to listen to Jon being treated like shit for an entire season just for s5 to offer him half-baked, retracted apologies that didn’t actually mean anything. None of this conflict was ever resolved. He didn’t become friends with all of them by the end. They didn’t accept him as an avatar. Not even his boyfriend did.

Only Jon ever suffers because of his own actions, and on top of that he’s treated like everyone’s punching bag! No one bothered to even try sympathizing with him. He was so utterly alone.

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Was it ever explicitly stated that Jon’s hair is going gray? Or is it another widespread headcanon

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Jon and Martin would not have kids they would not start a family ever. Which part of “but we wouldn’t have. Been together, I mean” do you not understand???

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I’m still not over season 5. I’m still not over the fact that Jon was pushed aside in his own story.

In the end, the “Ceaseless Watcher’s Special Little Boy” was no more than a disposable puppet. Nothing he had to say mattered. Not a single action he could’ve taken would’ve changed anything, and yet he was blamed for “not trying to help”. No one cared about him as a person, he was just regarded as The Archivist. No one bothered to think of him.

Not only did he get stripped of all agency regarding his own life, not only was he outright despised by all the people he valued, but on top of it all he suddenly stopped mattering in the story itself.

All nuance was forgotten. Even the audience began to see him through the prism of his relationship with Martin. The violent monster. The one who caused it all. The bloodthirsty, vengeful Antichrist. The Archive of all fear. The one who died at the end.

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Would love to say that Jon deserves a gun but honestly I think that if he ever got one then he would just shoot himself

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Johnahthahn Sims

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any strong opinions on jonelias or mr magnus in general

Jonelias could’ve been absolutely delicious. Such a shame that the fandom peaked in 2020-21 and the ship was brushed off as bad because “it’s toxic”.

As for Elias/Jonah, he was one of the only characters that I actually liked, mostly because he had an intriguing and pleasant manner of speaking. Charming. And he was a really interesting guy - since we, as the audience, saw him from Jon’s perspective he was painted as a villain, but he was really just doing what everyone else in his situation would’ve done and he was aware of it. He wasn’t really evil, at least not in that cartoony sense like everyone likes to portray him, but god was he curious. And a control freak.

Him and Jon would complete eachother in the most gruesome of ways. The creator and his creation. Jon both dehumanized and worshipped. Him hating Elias yet desiring his approval. We really could’ve had it all. But no, he was killed in one single swipe and Jon got to be badass for like three minutes despite it going against the very nature of his relationship with Elias as was previously shown and instead we got two bland gays Somewhere Else™. How tragic